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Post by tazi on Jan 31, 2009 18:23:07 GMT
I say that because that was a blatant foul preceding this and as such if this is given it not only calms the situation but it also clears the situation too and therefore that incident would never have occured.
We all get frustrated and in the heat of battle that is what can/often does happen and simply because those officials have not got the simplest of decisions right.
In that Rory incident the referee should have admitted to Rory that he had got it wrong in that challenge prior to this incident and if i had awarded your side a freekick then this incident would never have happened so therefore i will let it lie with simply a yellow.
Instead those officials bottle it yet again and allow Phillips to stay on the pitch when quite rightly/frankly he should have walked.
Disgusting/disgraceful officiating yet again of the highest order.
Danny pugh man of the match in my opinion as he was immense.
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Post by jbstokie on Jan 31, 2009 18:25:54 GMT
Absolutley right. But I think Ryan edges MOM for me
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Post by stokie25 on Jan 31, 2009 18:28:02 GMT
if Pulis doesn't challenge that card then he is as guilty as the ref's of influencing the game! and, yes, i've seen it replayed.....not a red IMHO ???
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Post by kingdeano on Jan 31, 2009 18:30:12 GMT
tazi everything you say is 100% right!!! fine rory deserved his red, but it would have been avoided if shaun wright fatlips would of got punished, but he chose to ignore the foul on our player!!
on another note, i found it hard pick motm because them 10 were outstanding after the sending off
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Post by jarhead on Jan 31, 2009 18:32:07 GMT
And the retaliation by phillips (the kick)on Delap was a certain red no arguments and the wank Ref was looking at it!!! weak patheic ref...Again!
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 31, 2009 18:35:28 GMT
By this stage of the season surely we all know that we will not get a fair and level playing field from any officials in this division. Money appears to influence all the officals, and the smaller clubs like ourselves, Brazil, Wigan etc will get shafted at every opportunity. Its not just the big decisions its all the little 50/50s that only ever appear to go one way.
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Post by stokie10 on Jan 31, 2009 18:37:51 GMT
spot on jarhead, another bottling ref at the brit yet again, how many more weak officialls have we got to put up with not just at home but away?.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 31, 2009 18:37:52 GMT
How many red cards and yellow cards are a direct result of the FIRST foul being missed by the officials?
Today, Citeh did themselves proud - the latest in a line of Premiership clubs that: - make no noise whatsoever in the stands - whine when they lose on and off the pitch - surround the ref at every single opportunity
It's f***** embarrasing. Tahnk god we're not like that. We're too honest for our own good, but I'd rather have standards and dignity than the billions they have.
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Post by Stokie-Jiggz on Jan 31, 2009 18:38:37 GMT
i think the right thing thing would be for Atkinson to come out and apologise for his obvious mistake which would show he has stood up and takes it like a man.
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Post by tazi on Jan 31, 2009 18:40:33 GMT
After the match i spoke to Rory and he stated that he WILL be appealing against his sending off. The lad looked distraught.
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Post by hatchett on Jan 31, 2009 18:44:00 GMT
SWP should have gone too... bad decision
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Post by onmebonce on Jan 31, 2009 21:27:26 GMT
gutted for rory did not deserve this hope he does appeal never have i wanted to twat a ref so badly hope rory enjoyed our reaction which lasted about 10 minutes solid
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Post by avo on Jan 31, 2009 21:39:00 GMT
I may make myself unpopular here, but having been at the game and been absolutely furious regarding the referee and the decision to dismiss RD, I have just got back and watched on TV and I have to say that I think any appeal against the Red will be turned away.
I dont think that SWP initial tackle was a foul.
SWP retaliation however should have seen him sent off.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 31, 2009 21:39:44 GMT
Tone said Rory was stupid and didn't sound like he disagreed with the sending off.
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Post by powchirper on Jan 31, 2009 21:44:11 GMT
i think the right thing thing would be for Atkinson to come out and apologise for his obvious mistake which would show he has stood up and takes it like a man. more chance of him bending and taking it like graham norton from some fat arab than that mate.
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Post by Stokie-Jiggz on Jan 31, 2009 21:50:24 GMT
i think the right thing thing would be for Atkinson to come out and apologise for his obvious mistake which would show he has stood up and takes it like a man. more chance of him bending and taking it like graham norton from some fat arab than that mate. what also happened with the big screen. Around 30 minutes it stop showing live pictures of the match. Coninsidently this occured just after the outrage of fuller not being awarded an obvious freekick which outraged many supporters? Do they not want us to see huge errors made by the officials now!
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Post by tazi on Jan 31, 2009 21:51:22 GMT
Did anyone else notice that after Wilko had brought down SWP that after Wilko had got back up in order to take up his position that whilst SWP was still on the floor he lifted his leg up to Wilko?.
Once again went unpunished.
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Post by avo on Jan 31, 2009 21:53:52 GMT
good spot tazi - saw that too.
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Post by WurstBoy on Jan 31, 2009 21:54:42 GMT
the initial SWP foul was definitely a foul and as studs were up it was definitely a card, probably a yellow, but earlier this season tackles like that were being given red cards. Rory tackled SWP from behind and should have hot a card for that and then kicked the ball at SWP and was sent off presumably for intent. As soon as I saw it, it was clear that a red card was on its way, and deservedly so.
HOWEVER - the SWP retaliatory kick was a clear red card offence that the ref bottled. I was disappointed that Mark Hughes didn't sub SWP to take some heat out of the situation. Ultimately he may rue that decision as it got us fired up.
Anyhoo - couldn't be more proud of the lads today.
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Post by avo on Jan 31, 2009 21:56:35 GMT
I am sure we will be last on MOTD with that woman commentator who will clarify exactly what the decision should have been!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Chrissyd33 on Jan 31, 2009 22:36:31 GMT
was the red given because he kicked the ball at swp??? beattie man of the match for me
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Post by tazi on Jan 31, 2009 23:00:14 GMT
was the red given because he kicked the ball at swp??? beattie man of the match for me Must have been, but by then the referee should have realised his fuck up at not awarding us a blatant freekick in the build up to that incident and used his common sense. Some officials including linesmen really do suck but they probably get free petrol/diesel from those foreign fuckin owners for their fancy motors that theyv'e had brought for e'm.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2009 23:04:38 GMT
Having just seen it on Sky, I'm just as annoyed.
SWP jumped in two-footed on Etherington and came away with the ball. Delap tracked after him, clearly riled up and nibbled at his ankles from behind. Nothing excessively violent or wild IMO.
Yellow card only surely?
Wright-Phillips went down in installments, Platoon-like, throwing his arms in the air. Delap then instantaneously (before any whistle?) booted the ball against the prone Wright-Phillips from point-blank range. SWP then kicked out at Delap a la Beckham v the Argies.
Are we saying he got the red, largely, for kicking the ball at SWP - while ,to all intents and purposes, the ball, pre-whistle (or at least before he could be said to be aware of any whsitle), was still live? It was nasty to do it, but was it illegal?
An army of City arseholes, particularly Zabaleta, came charging in and gave the impression something really sinister had gone on. And Atkinson fell for it.
Delap has always seemed in control and pretty together, even though he's a 100%er. I really think it was a harsh red, even though he did lose it temporarily - understandably given the poisoned dwarf's reckless challenge
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Post by arma on Jan 31, 2009 23:11:01 GMT
Original tackle by SWP was a foul + yellow card for dangerous play.
Referee could have been a real bitch though - he could have booked Rory for the kick and then red carded him for the kick through the ball - it's violent conduct, you can't use the "he kicked the ball" as an excuse. Decision to walk him was correct - it was stupid but the passion and togetherness Rory showed in the squad was for all to see.
SWP should have walked for retaliation...referee bottled it which is a shame because I rate Martin Atkinson.
Performance was immense - maybe every cloud has a silver lining...we'll see now if Lawrence is in Pulis' plans.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2009 23:15:49 GMT
MOTD commentator glossed over the SWP original challenge completely and made very little of the retaliation - and got very excited by Delap's tackle immediately. So that'll shape the discussion, which will no doubt say Delap was deservedly sent off, and SWP was the innocent party
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Post by tazi on Jan 31, 2009 23:40:11 GMT
According to Shearer it's a decent tackle by SWP on Etherington. Say no more, those on MOTD are a load of toss.
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