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Post by werrington on Jan 28, 2009 11:45:09 GMT
He does not deem good enough to start in a Stoke shirt...Kitson Tonge Soares Sonko Davies and Ollifinjana...but hey Nige i wont waste Peter;s money on players who are no better than what we have ....Cmon Tony sort it out as last night was shocking...
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Post by stokelad84 on Jan 28, 2009 11:46:17 GMT
Spurs spend that sort of money on just 1 player!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 28, 2009 11:47:56 GMT
but hey Nige i wont waste Peter;s money on players who are no better than what we have .... It's fair to say that statement will be laughed out of court if he ever chooses to wheel it out again. I've got a feeling it's the last we've heard of that pearler.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 28, 2009 12:02:33 GMT
Spurs can afford to waste it
We cant - We would have been better off sigining fewer, better players.
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Post by hullpotter87 on Jan 28, 2009 12:10:04 GMT
Yeah Spurs can afford to waste it but the fact of the matter is last night we played a team who when they get their act together (as they seem to be doing) can give pretty much anyone in the premiership a good game - lets not forget they have spent more than we have spent in total on two players. We are going to get soundly beaten at least two or three times more this season - it's the Bolton, Middlesborough, Portsmouth games we need to worry about not the games against teams who wont be in relegation trouble at the end of the season. Lets have some sense please..........!
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Post by timmymallett on Jan 28, 2009 12:20:13 GMT
Pulis is completely clueless. He somehow got us up, trying his best to blow it on the way I must add.
Pulis should have been sacked at the end of last season. He is simply not a Premiership manager.
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Post by hullpotter87 on Jan 28, 2009 12:21:16 GMT
Are you being ironic TM?
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Post by bogus on Jan 28, 2009 12:23:17 GMT
Spurs can afford to waste it We cant - We would have been better off sigining fewer, better players. That's fine and I would agree, but................. as long as we can attract them?
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Post by stoke624 on Jan 28, 2009 12:24:24 GMT
this was the major talk between stokies last night as there is £15m worth of players on the bench,out on loan or not even deemed good enough for a squad of 17!pulis needs to admit his appalling record in the market this time and pc may not be willing to give him much more cash for players who are earning top wages but not good enough to play(behind the likes of cresswell even who yet again was a joke last night but stayed on the pitch as usual as the team was shuffled around to enale im to play another full 90 minutes without any meaningful contribution!!!)
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Post by daviesall on Jan 28, 2009 13:39:37 GMT
i am not adverse to pulis signing playes but my point is why spend big bucks on players i.e 1.25 milloin on soares and 2 million on tonge but not give them a decent run in the side but continue with cresswell who isnt and never will be premiership quality if you arent going to use them then save your money and get someone in you are going to play
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 13:41:12 GMT
Pulis is completely clueless. He somehow got us up, trying his best to blow it on the way I must add. Pulis should have been sacked at the end of last season. He is simply not a Premiership manager.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 13:42:45 GMT
Yeah Spurs can afford to waste it but the fact of the matter is last night we played a team who when they get their act together (as they seem to be doing) can give pretty much anyone in the premiership a good game - lets not forget they have spent more than we have spent in total on two players. We are going to get soundly beaten at least two or three times more this season - it's the Bolton, Middlesborough, Portsmouth games we need to worry about not the games against teams who wont be in relegation trouble at the end of the season. Lets have some sense please..........! Spurs hadn't got their act together though. That's the point. They were dreadful at Burnley, not great against Pompey and bereft of fight against Man Yoo at the weekend. They were there for the taking if we'd had a go.
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Post by lordb on Jan 28, 2009 13:43:50 GMT
Soares has had enough pitch time for me to prove 1: he will never be a winger & 2: he isnt ready yet for 1st team (as an attacking centre mid) - he would suit a 433 mind (which TP will never play). I actually think even Cresswell is a better bet (!)
Tongue hasnt had a fair crack really - he could have played in a 451 too,might suit him - Davies is a good player & will imho prove his worth next season
Oliie has been the biggest disapointment & Sonko scares me for his poor play
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Post by daviesall on Jan 28, 2009 13:54:24 GMT
so why buy them then
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 13:56:19 GMT
I think because we struggled to attract quality because people thought we'd be "doing a Derby", and so we panicked.
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Post by daviesall on Jan 28, 2009 13:57:14 GMT
and thats good management then
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Post by daviesall on Jan 28, 2009 13:59:33 GMT
i think he is assembling a side for the championship next season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 14:00:25 GMT
and thats good management then Erm, no. Did I say it was? We panicked and spent a metric fuckton on a fair amount of shite, nobody can dispute that and some serious quations need to be asked. The only explanation I can think of, as I said, is that we couldn't attract real quality because of all the "doing a Derby" bollocks. Now we've proved we won't be doing that, we've been able to bring in the likes of Beattie and Etherington.
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Post by dingdongbell on Jan 28, 2009 14:07:29 GMT
the question is would you give pulis any more of your money to bring in any new players, given his farcical dealings this season , tonge ,sonko, oli , kitson, davies , soare, ( wonder how many games they have played in total ), my view would be to tell pulis that he now has to generate his own funds for transfers, that could either push him and make him walk or make him try to offload all the deadwood that we are carrying, i am not a pulis hater but i dont like his tactics, dont think much of kemp though
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Post by werrington on Jan 28, 2009 18:03:49 GMT
If i was Coates i;d be telling him that he can only sign players he is prepared to play and not leave on bench or out of squad altogether.....Last night really made me angry
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Post by pmjh on Jan 28, 2009 18:21:18 GMT
the question is would you give pulis any more of your money to bring in any new players, given his farcical dealings this season , tonge ,sonko, oli , kitson, davies , soare, Or would you give him money to buy Sorensen,Higginbotham,Faye,Etherington,Beattie. And how many thought Kitson was a bad signing when we signed him
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Post by werrington on Jan 28, 2009 18:25:00 GMT
I didnt realise Kitson was a bad signing???...heres me thinking he hasnt been playing centre forward ???....Its no coincicence that all of our best performances this season have been when he is on the pitch??
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 28, 2009 18:26:58 GMT
Spurs can afford to waste it We cant - We would have been better off sigining fewer, better players. Ah the holy grail Fewer better players
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 28, 2009 18:27:59 GMT
If i was Coates i;d be telling him that he can only sign players he is prepared to play and not leave on bench or out of squad altogether.....Last night really made me angry Well you arent Coates are you???????
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 28, 2009 18:30:04 GMT
The fact is, the depth of our squad, and ability of our players, usually held up as the reason why we struggle cannot be used as a realistic excuse any more.
We have spent a lot of money. More than many of the clubs around us. We are not losing games because of the quality of our players or budget, we are losing games because of the way we approach them and poor team selections.
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Post by dingdongbell on Jan 28, 2009 18:39:09 GMT
pjmh. those players that you named are all proven premiership quality players, the fact is that we are entering a crucial stage of the season and we still dont know wether the players that i named can improve the team, maybe he should have gone for quality over quantity, as for kitson, i hope he can turn his season around, but when you are behind cresswell in the pecking order , i dont hold out much hope.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 18:41:33 GMT
The fact is, the depth of our squad, and ability of our players, usually held up as the reason why we struggle cannot be used as a realistic excuse any more. We have spent a lot of money. More than many of the clubs around us. We are not losing games because of the quality of our players or budget, we are losing games because of the way we approach them and poor team selections. A particular worry given what we've spent is that we've got about 35 central midfielders at the club and they range from slightly above average to absolutely fucking useless.
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 28, 2009 18:49:41 GMT
rob - I agree, but do wonder why players who can pass the ball well, such as Whelan for RI, or at Wednesday, suddenly cannot string a pass together for us.
I think it's more the quality of coaching than the quaility of the players.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 18:55:11 GMT
rob - I agree, but do wonder why players who can pass the ball well, such as Whelan for RI, or at Wednesday, suddenly cannot string a pass together for us. I think it's more the quality of coaching than the quaility of the players. The style of play probably has something to do with it as you say, although I can't say I've been too impressed with Whelan when I've seen him for Ireland either. It's upsetting to think that the last truly attacking midfielder we had at the club was Darel Russell!
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 28, 2009 18:59:26 GMT
The Darel Russell one is interesting. Especially as many fans who used to moan about him being a "headless chicken" are the very same who defend the selection of Cressy based on his ability to run around alot.
It is obvious to anyone with any sense of reason what the problem is with our away performances (and no I don't mean sack Tony). I just cannot accept the fact that no-one in the dugout can see that we are getting it badly wrong.
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