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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 19:26:54 GMT
from www.bladesunited.org"Had a text from a mate who drinks in the same North Yorkshire boozer as Cresswell. He said Cresswell was in there last night and was saying that he expects to sign for us this week.
The lad in question is a Leeds fan but I don't think this is a wind up.
Think there are big questions marks over the state of Cresswell's knees which isn't great news. Not seen him play for a while but remember feeling underwhelmed last time we nearly signed him (and he wasn't replacing Beattie then!).
According to Ken Bates, Cresswell was on his way to sign for us when he got a call from Leeds and turned the car round. Obviously desperate to be a Blade then.
I suppose he's nailed on to score against Wednesday if nothing else.""That fits with what I have heard that it is 2.5 million plus potential add ons and Pugh and Creswell also coming in exchange for Beattie.
I heard that there is still much work to be done for all the above with much of it to do with Beattie's outgoing financial settlement rom the Lane.
Can;t see either of the rumoured incoming players would improve us much as both have not had regular football in the last 2 or 3 seasons with injuries and non selection. Both played for Blackwell at Leeds of course.
Also heard that a bid has been put in for Lita but 2 or 3 others have bids on the table too for him and Reading are rightly trying to get the fee increased as we should be doing with Beattie.
Think it is fair to say that in the next week or so there will be one or two coming in and one or two going out."Not sure why they seem to think cresswells knees are dodgy - has he EVER been injured for us? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 11, 2009 19:30:00 GMT
Sounds plausible as Cresswell seemed to playing for his career at Stoke or to put himself in the shop window yesterday. Can't fault the lad's effort but he just isn't premiership quality.
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Post by dadofsam on Jan 11, 2009 19:30:18 GMT
I could do with knees as dodgy as his - the fooker never stops charging about.
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Post by march4 on Jan 11, 2009 19:32:18 GMT
I wouldn't want Cresswell to go. Pugh won't be missed though. Sheff Utd forum convinced they are signing Lita for £1M (they must be mad). Therefore I can't see why they would want Cresswell also.
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 11, 2009 19:33:44 GMT
agreed march4. Pugh is a way down the midfield list, so we can live without him quite easily
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Post by coggy on Jan 11, 2009 19:36:17 GMT
But how much is Creswell on per week ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 19:37:00 GMT
I like pugh as a squad player and would prefer to see others leave first tbh
as for cresswell, he did well for us in the championship. he's been begging to play up front but unfortunately he hasn't made the most of his chance when its come
interesting the blackwell link - i didn't know he managed them both previously
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 11, 2009 19:37:04 GMT
15k with a 3k appearance bonus if you believe whats posted on here.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 11, 2009 19:38:07 GMT
Have to disagree, I'd rather see the back of Cresswell than Pugh, who has looked neat and tidy when he's played this season. Cresswell's lack of a decent first touch was woefully evident yesterday.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 11, 2009 19:38:42 GMT
I think the dodgy knees thing came from the fact that he failed a medical at Hull and then popped up here.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 11, 2009 19:42:48 GMT
'I wouldnt want Cresswell to go'
Id drive him there myself !!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 11, 2009 19:44:59 GMT
But how much is Creswell on per week ? His own agent claims it's £16,000-a-week and a £3000 appearance bonus. I'd imagine he'd be hard to budge while sitting on a contract so at odds with his ability. |
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Post by march4 on Jan 11, 2009 19:47:47 GMT
Have to disagree, I'd rather see the back of Cresswell than Pugh, who has looked neat and tidy when he's played this season. Cresswell's lack of a decent first touch was woefully evident yesterday. What does Cresswell have to do to convince some people. It is deja vu of the grumblings about Mama last year. We would have been in an even more sorry state this season without him. The injury situation has left us woefully short and Cresswell has stepped in to play a number of positions. He was much better than Kitson yesterday and yet there are several threads praising Kitson. Cresswell is a useful squad player. He can play in a variety of positions and his stamina is amazing. Every game, 90 minutes of non-stop chasing and challenging. If we let him go he will have to be replaced in the squad. If Pugh left, would anyone even notice? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 11, 2009 19:51:56 GMT
Have to disagree, I'd rather see the back of Cresswell than Pugh, who has looked neat and tidy when he's played this season. Cresswell's lack of a decent first touch was woefully evident yesterday. What does Cresswell have to do to convince some people. It is deja vu of the grumblings about Mama last year. We would have been in an even more sorry state this season without him. The injury situation has left us woefully short and Cresswell has stepped in to play a number of positions. He was much better than Kitson yesterday and yet there are several threads praising Kitson. Cresswell is a useful squad player. He can play in a variety of positions and his stamina is amazing. Every game, 90 minutes of non-stop chasing and challenging. If we let him go he will have to be replaced in the squad. If Pugh left, would anyone even notice? Cresswell played as one of two strikers yesterday and never looked like scoring. His first touch was shocking and for a big bloke he was hustled off the ball far too often. I don't want an honest chaser I want a striker. He simply isn't good enough and I do agree with you on his workrate but that's not the point I'm making. |
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Post by march4 on Jan 11, 2009 20:02:39 GMT
This is a repeat of the Mama discussions from last year. Cresswell played the Mama role and the Mama role does not involve scoring goals - it is more of an advanced midfield position. The goalscoring is meant to be done by the lone striker and the two wide midfielders (Cresswell scored 11 last season from this position). In the first half he had to play both the Mama role and the lone striker whilst Kitson was deciding whether he wanted to be bothered.
He has scored exactly the same number of goals as Kitson and this is indeed a weakness this year, but unlike Kitson he has had to battle his way into the side in the knowledge he will only play when others are unavailable. If Stoke City can find another similarly committed player who is happy to sit on the bench week after week and then when called upon play in a variety of positions, they are doing very well indeed.
Perhaps the attitude of Cresswell can rub off on people like Kitson, Tonge and Soares and then they might have a future at Stoke.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 11, 2009 20:47:55 GMT
This is a repeat of the Mama discussions from last year. Cresswell played the Mama role and the Mama role does not involve scoring goals - it is more of an advanced midfield position. The goalscoring is meant to be done by the lone striker and the two wide midfielders (Cresswell scored 11 last season from this position). In the first half he had to play both the Mama role and the lone striker whilst Kitson was deciding whether he wanted to be bothered. He has scored exactly the same number of goals as Kitson and this is indeed a weakness this year, but unlike Kitson he has had to battle his way into the side in the knowledge he will only play when others are unavailable. If Stoke City can find another similarly committed player who is happy to sit on the bench week after week and then when called upon play in a variety of positions, they are doing very well indeed. Perhaps the attitude of Cresswell can rub off on people like Kitson, Tonge and Soares and then they might have a future at Stoke. I repeat, I do not doubt his work ethic or indeed his loyalty to the cause but that wasn't my point, my point was that he simply isn't good enough at this level. |
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Post by march4 on Jan 11, 2009 20:51:48 GMT
Not going to disagree about his quality at this level, we have a few who aren't good enough don't we?
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Post by danmase on Jan 11, 2009 20:56:28 GMT
that would be a great deal - we get a premiership striker for a good fee and get rid of two championship players as well. As much as I like both cressie an pugh we really do need to trim the squad a little.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 11, 2009 21:03:26 GMT
Not going to disagree about his quality at this level, we have a few who aren't good enough don't we? We do indeed, can't disagree with you on that point either  |
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 11, 2009 21:26:44 GMT
This is a repeat of the Mama discussions from last year. Cresswell played the Mama role and the Mama role does not involve scoring goals - it is more of an advanced midfield position. You can't really compare Cresswell's contribution to Mama's, he made a decent stab of the Mama role yesterday but he is never going to be anywhere near as effective. He runs around a lot but doesn't do a lot else and is never going to be a Premiership footballer with his lack of pace, strength or skill. Once we have Mama, Beattie and Fuller playing he isn't going to get another game up front. For the wing positions he will be behind Etherington, Lawrence, Delap, Pugh and Tonge. I would get rid now while we have the chance rather than be lumbered with his £16,000 week wages for the next 18 months. |
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Post by pushon on Jan 11, 2009 21:35:25 GMT
March 4 "here bloody here" at last someone else who can see just what Kitson can't or doesn't want to do.
I admire Cresswells effort and attitude, but this league is a step to far for him.
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Jan 11, 2009 21:40:30 GMT
being honest, considering creswells performances of late playing in his natural position i'd be a bit dissapointed to see him leave, imo he's a useful squad player.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 11, 2009 21:52:52 GMT
What does Cresswell have to do to convince some people. It is deja vu of the grumblings about Mama last year. We would have been in an even more sorry state this season without him. The injury situation has left us woefully short and Cresswell has stepped in to play a number of positions. He was much better than Kitson yesterday and yet there are several threads praising Kitson. Cresswell is a useful squad player. He can play in a variety of positions and his stamina is amazing. Every game, 90 minutes of non-stop chasing and challenging. If we let him go he will have to be replaced in the squad. If Pugh left, would anyone even notice? Cresswell played as one of two strikers yesterday and never looked like scoring. His first touch was shocking and for a big bloke he was hustled off the ball far too often. I don't want an honest chaser I want a striker. He simply isn't good enough and I do agree with you on his workrate but that's not the point I'm making. you missed his two foot shimy by the dugout then that took 2 Liverpool players out |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 11, 2009 21:57:03 GMT
Cresswell played as one of two strikers yesterday and never looked like scoring. His first touch was shocking and for a big bloke he was hustled off the ball far too often. I don't want an honest chaser I want a striker. He simply isn't good enough and I do agree with you on his workrate but that's not the point I'm making. you missed his two foot shimy by the dugout then that took 2 Liverpool players out Just watched that on the rerun. He's had a couple of twinkletoes moments that passed me by live - although he did carelessly give the ball away straight after  To be fair to him, his workrate is pretty phenomenal. |
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Post by serpico on Jan 11, 2009 22:01:34 GMT
I don't mind him playing up front, so long as he's not picked to play on the left.
He did a nice little turn on Hyypia that had it come off would have put himself in on goal, unfortunately he was fouled/fell over. I agree about his work rate, he always give 100% so you can't be to hard on him, he's just not suited to that wide role he's been thrust into so many times.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 12, 2009 0:43:12 GMT
I wouldn't want Cresswell to go. . You say you don't disagree with the claim that he's not good enough at this level, but yet you still wouldn't want him to go? ??? |
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Post by Tuncay Stryder on Jan 12, 2009 7:59:16 GMT
Id Get rid of Cresswell and keep Pugh
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 12, 2009 15:09:38 GMT
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Post by s8to on Jan 12, 2009 15:11:43 GMT
Agreed Cressy will never score consistantly at this level
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