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Post by mamasidibescfc on Jan 2, 2009 9:45:25 GMT
Im presuming hes still at man city?? surely not anywheere near there 1st team..black, cheap because of his injury history..bags of pace..powerful? surely the definition of tp player?
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Post by GazMcNicol on Jan 2, 2009 9:47:14 GMT
Didn't somebody reckon they saw him at the Brit on Xmas day? Or was that a load of bollox?
Yeah, I agree tho, would be good for us I think!
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Post by Northy on Jan 2, 2009 9:48:06 GMT
Not for me, is he better than Fuller? ... No
We need to be aiming for better than this if we want to stay up.
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 2, 2009 9:48:46 GMT
He's been mentioned on here before, and whoever posted got a bit of a slating.
Fact is, if he signed he'd instantly be the second best striker at the club, and probably the best.
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Post by mamasidibescfc on Jan 2, 2009 9:52:17 GMT
Not for me, is he better than Fuller? ... No We need to be aiming for better than this if we want to stay up. i think hes better than fuller..why isnt he? whats fuller really got that he hasnt? fuller has less experiance and probably a worse scoring record at a lower level. fuller is overrated by many stoke fans
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Post by Northy on Jan 2, 2009 10:04:10 GMT
Not for me, is he better than Fuller? ... No We need to be aiming for better than this if we want to stay up. i think hes better than fuller..why isnt he? whats fuller really got that he hasnt? fuller has less experiance and probably a worse scoring record at a lower level. fuller is overrated by many stoke fans I think Fuller has a better touch, control and hold up and is a better header of the ball, that's my opinion Why do you think vassell is better than Fuller?
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Post by boscfc on Jan 2, 2009 10:06:23 GMT
Vassell a better player than Fuller ........... nurse!
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 2, 2009 10:16:14 GMT
Fuller 265 appearances 85 goals
Vassel 311 appearences 67 goals
However all of Vassells appearences have been in the Prem whereas only 45 of Fullers have been.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Post by griffoisalegend on Jan 2, 2009 10:22:24 GMT
Fuller is a better player than Vassell.
But i'd happily take Vassell as he'd fit in really well in this Stoke side.
Not sure if we can get better than this to be honest, people need to be a little more realistic on targets, Dindane? No chance. But Vassell would be available on a (relatively) small price and so he's probably be a good deal.
To get a player a ring up from someone like Fuller, we'd have to pay 15 million plus in this window , and about 5-7 to get someone around his ability. Vassell's better than cresswell and Pericard is he not?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 2, 2009 10:34:16 GMT
Certainly a good player for Stoke, not sure we would want his wages, I would also have a go for Benjani but he might not be availalbe until summer , if we stay up he would do well for us
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 2, 2009 10:36:32 GMT
Tom - do you really think Fuller is a £7m player? I'm not so sure. If he was that good,, another club would have poached him some time ago. I think we are prone to have Stoke coloured specs on this one to be honest.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2009 10:40:02 GMT
I think if Fuller's career would have continued on a serious injury-free trajectory, he'd have been playing for a top 6 Premier League club a while ago.
We're very lucky to have him IMO.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 2, 2009 10:40:22 GMT
Vassell is about a foot too short to be of interest to Pulis.
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Post by One-Two on Jan 2, 2009 10:40:30 GMT
i would love vassel. he'd fit really well into our style and team. And to be honest, we arent going to get players of immense quality so we have to lower our expectations to that kind of level
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Post by MrMagic on Jan 2, 2009 10:42:36 GMT
I think if Fuller's career would have continued on a serious injury-free trajectory, he'd have been playing for a top 6 Premier League club a while ago. We're very lucky to have him IMO. I agree - but it didn't. He did get injured and therefore his career took a different path. We are talking about the player he is, not what he might have been.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 2, 2009 10:43:06 GMT
I'm confused as to why we're being linked with handfuls of Fuller-types who aren't as good as him, and no Sidibe-types.
If we're going to carry on playing 4-4-Mama-1, I can't see where the likes of Harewood, Dindane and Camara are going to nudge their way into the starting XI regularly.
Much better cover and depth than Winkle and Cresswell obviously, but even so...
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Post by chrispk76 on Jan 2, 2009 10:43:12 GMT
1 goal in 948 mins of play this season in a supposedly good attacking team ! that is an average of a goal every 9.48games this season !! vassell is shit in the air,he would be no use to us and the way we play. the only thing vassell does better than fuller is discipline, he's only been booked once this season in 14 apps. oh and his goal was in the uefa cup and has yet to score in the prem.
no doubt he'd be a better option at left wing than cresser though ;D
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Post by griffoisalegend on Jan 2, 2009 10:58:14 GMT
Tom - do you really think Fuller is a £7m player? I'm not so sure. If he was that good,, another club would have poached him some time ago. I think we are prone to have Stoke coloured specs on this one to be honest. On ability, and value to Stoke? Yes, probably more. If i was Pulis i wouldn't sell for anything less than 8-10 million.To get a player who'd influence the game (no guarantee) the same as him, you'd have to pay around that amount, a Dindane sort of player would set teams back around 6 million -and i couldn't see him doing much more than Fuller for Stoke , who's netted 6 goals, with frankly hopeless service. They've been crap, really crap , and what's the guarantee, if Fuller went - we'd be able to get a player who'd replace him, even for 10 million plus? The market's that crazy now, the days of the quality championship forwards going for around 1m are well and truely gone, and the days of getting decent prem strikers for 4 or 5 million who'd replace good players for your club - they're dead too. What i'm saying is, there's not a big gulf between Fuller and some of the top players, it's that extra bit which they have which makes them 15 million + men and we'd have to shell out that amount to get BETTER than him, the likes of Elmander who went for 11 million, alves etc 12 million - they'd do no better for Stoke than Fuller has. Signings such as Vassell and Harewood could only improve the team, without having to pay crazy amounts, but Pulis won't pay stupid money to a degree.
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Jan 2, 2009 11:02:50 GMT
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Post by Bick on Jan 2, 2009 11:07:49 GMT
if he is cheap yes.
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Post by ti on Jan 2, 2009 11:30:08 GMT
im sure we could get some one as good as him for half the wages
and chrispk76 - that is the best sig ever.
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Post by mitchandtitch on Jan 2, 2009 11:45:01 GMT
Henry fits the mould? ha ha ha
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 2, 2009 11:48:06 GMT
We neede someone who can get a least 15 goals a season,Vassell would be incapable of doing that methinks.
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Post by chrispk76 on Jan 2, 2009 12:04:23 GMT
im sure we could get some one as good as him for half the wages and chrispk76 - that is the best sig ever. cheers mart, have had a few comments about her. there aint many women around that men would like to sit and watch get dressed except maybe beth ditto or jo brand ;D
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Post by tony harrison on Jan 2, 2009 13:19:14 GMT
Don't think he is good enough.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jan 2, 2009 13:25:50 GMT
Vassell is a shadow of the player he once was due to injuries, he's not even in Fuller's league now.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Jan 2, 2009 13:28:17 GMT
Vassell used to be good. Note how the word USED in that sentence. He'd be fucking useless IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2009 13:44:03 GMT
Another striker conning a living at the top level who cant score - pure and simple
what a daft suggestion
Jon Parkin to return perhaps (maybe more sensible)
Cmon fellas - be sensible !
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Jan 2, 2009 13:46:15 GMT
Vassell is utter crap, i bloody hope we dont sign him, he's useless
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 2, 2009 13:47:38 GMT
Vassell is utter crap, i bloody hope we dont sign him, he's useless Hear hear.
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