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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 1, 2008 18:40:54 GMT
OK here goes. Now i'm sure i'm going to walk into a huge barrage of abuse judged on what i've read on here this season but i'm just wondering if i'm the only one with this opinion. Last year he was pretty woeful at times, looked slow, unfit and i had big worries about him being singled out by opposition and ripped apart in the prem. Now to be fair to the lad and i'm the first to admit it he's surprised me massively with how well he's played BUT that being said the numerous posts i've read where people have said he was immense, man of the match etc have left me a bit bemused to be honest. I see him in the Cresswell and Amdy Faye mould in the fact that he's done OK given his limited ability but i'd be delighted if we replaced him with someone else or even better Davies turns out to be a superstar. So in summary i think he's played really well so far but i've seen it more as "played really well for Griffin" rather than been anything outstanding. Same as Cress he's a true pro and gives it his all so i've not got a bad word to say about the lad but i just don't think he's good enough at this level. Anyone agree or am i on my own here? Tin hat at the ready
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2008 18:46:05 GMT
I disagree.In fact I think he's been as good as any defender (with the exception of Abdoulaye obv.) at the club this season, and hasn't got the credit in some quarters he deserves, be it because of his form last season or the vendetta over him going to Derby. Different strokes
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 1, 2008 18:58:57 GMT
Indeed but just for the record i never have a vendetta against any player who chooses someone else over us .... unless they slag us off in the process of course
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Post by crimesy on Dec 1, 2008 19:00:54 GMT
I think Dlap should be captain and Davies to slot in at RB.
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 19:05:36 GMT
how many times have you seen davis play?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2008 19:05:02 GMT
I think Dlap should be captain and Davies to slot in at RB. Do you not think Griffin's performances have warranted a place in the side?
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Post by abboscfc on Dec 1, 2008 19:12:43 GMT
not many times but i seen what he did to drogba
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 1, 2008 19:18:23 GMT
I think Griff has looked tremendous, I was all up for not playing him at the start of the season but his performances have been hugely impressive. Well done Griff!
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 19:21:15 GMT
He hasn't set the world alight, but then who has for the club so far. He plays within his limits but gives 100% in every game and is a great example to the younger players in the squad like Shawx. I think he has looked very competent and has played to the maximum of his ability. Can we ask from any more from any player?
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Post by th05 on Dec 1, 2008 19:23:27 GMT
He's been quality all season bar 1, maybe 2 howlers. Everyone makes the odd mistake though (except Abd. of course ;D)
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 19:25:09 GMT
how do people know he's played to the maximum of his abilities?
Many though big chris couldn't get better yet he did. Same for pato , the list goes on.
As long as Pulis picks him, he will have my 100% support, just like anyone else who puts on a stoke shirt.
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Post by mamasbitch on Dec 1, 2008 19:26:14 GMT
The same griff that was picked for the european team of the week? nah hes not up to much *rollyeyething*
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 19:28:04 GMT
how do people know he's played to the maximum of his abilities? Many though big chris couldn't get better yet he did. Same for pato , the list goes on. As long as Pulis picks him, he will have my 100% support, just like anyone else who puts on a stoke shirt. I was up all night working out the exact equation for his potential to ability ratio and it came out 1:1. Fuckin' knackerd know though. I'll PM you the working out if you want like?
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 1, 2008 19:30:38 GMT
He hasn't set the world alight, but then who has for the club so far. He plays within his limits but gives 100% in every game and is a great example to the younger players in the squad like Shawx. I think he has looked very competent and has played to the maximum of his ability. Can we ask from any more from any player? Ahh now that sounds a bit more where i am. I'd argue that Abdy Faye, Fuller, Sidibe, Higginbottom & Shawcross (bar Bolon) have all set my world alight but Griffin has just been OK. In response to your question no i couldn't ask anymore from him, but i can't ask anymore from Cresswell either .... doesn't mean i want to see him in the team if we have alternatives. I hope he proves me wrong but apart from Arsenal where i was amost open-mouthed with him at times i've not seen these amazing performances that most others have. I've no idea how good Davies will be but apart from the captain's armband he won't have to replace anything special that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2008 19:32:22 GMT
Griff's been more consistently good than Shawcross so far IMO.
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 19:33:17 GMT
how do people know he's played to the maximum of his abilities? Many though big chris couldn't get better yet he did. Same for pato , the list goes on. As long as Pulis picks him, he will have my 100% support, just like anyone else who puts on a stoke shirt. I was up all night working out the exact equation for his potential to ability ratio and it came out 1:1. Fuckin' knackerd know though. I'll PM you the working out if you want like? please
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 1, 2008 19:32:16 GMT
The same griff that was picked for the european team of the week? nah hes not up to much *rollyeyething* 1 swallow doesn't make a summer *rollyeyething* Sun shines on a dog's ass some days blah blah.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 19:35:18 GMT
I was up all night working out the exact equation for his potential to ability ratio and it came out 1:1. Fuckin' knackerd know though. I'll PM you the working out if you want like? please you got me that was a bare faced lie, sorry. and sorry for the sarcasm my mum always tells me it's the lowest form of wit. It's about time it all came back on me! Come on Shawx hasn't exactly set the world alight has he? some of his distribution from the back has been nothing short of pathetic. I know he's clearly been told to put his boot through the ball at every opportunity, but set the world alight. I don't know about that!
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 19:38:23 GMT
please you got me that was a bare faced lie, sorry. and sorry for the sarcasm my mum always tells me it's the lowest form of wit. It's about time it all came back on me! tut tut. i'll let you off if you take a "I love Griffin" banner to the derby match.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 19:44:13 GMT
you got me that was a bare faced lie, sorry. and sorry for the sarcasm my mum always tells me it's the lowest form of wit. It's about time it all came back on me! tut tut. i'll let you off if you take a "I love Griffin" banner to the derby match. I'll do my best. but I warn you my handwrighting is terrible, and last time I used one of the bed sheets to make a banner it didn't go down to well. I'll just have join his fan club or something. I'm sure I can get some Derby fans on board! I'll ask around tomorrow.
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 19:44:26 GMT
and last time I used one of the bed sheets to make a banner it didn't go down to well. I'll just still see the stains?
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 19:48:43 GMT
and last time I used one of the bed sheets to make a banner it didn't go down to well. I'll just still see the stains? Shocking! but yeah. I'm blind too. How could that be my 300th post. Typical!!
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 19:49:44 GMT
300th post defending why you have stains on your bed sheets, classic!
THIS IS SPARTA -300
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 19:56:27 GMT
300th post defending why you have stains on your bed sheets, classic! THIS IS SPARTA -300 awsome film by the way. If a little homoerotic for my tastes! this thread really has evolved hasn't it? Or is that regressed? ;D
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 1, 2008 19:58:13 GMT
300th post defending why you have stains on your bed sheets, classic! THIS IS SPARTA -300 awsome film by the way. If a little homoerotic for my tastes! this thread really has evolved hasn't it? Or is that regressed? ;D It certainly has ... get a fuckin' room you faggots I looked and thought ooh lots of comments lets have a read. To be treated to half a page of comments about stained sheets ... and Griffin wasn't even to blame
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 20:01:25 GMT
awsome film by the way. If a little homoerotic for my tastes! this thread really has evolved hasn't it? Or is that regressed? ;D It certainly has ... get a fuckin' room you faggots well said trumpton. sorry owd. small point though, your location is up windy millers arse mate.
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Post by Beardy200 on Dec 1, 2008 20:05:27 GMT
It certainly has ... get a fuckin' room you faggots well said trumpton. sorry owd. small point though, your location is up windy millers arse mate. So? It's warm, cosy and there's plenty to eat. Sorry i cheated ... have a laugh fellas. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=136cNGNd7Yg
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 20:09:01 GMT
I'm gonna get straight onto the RSPCA. Pisser. ;D
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Post by Stokecity_m on Dec 1, 2008 20:09:05 GMT
I'm gonna get straight onto the RSPCA. Pisser. ;D they wont sell you one mate, you need a dodgy pet shop.
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Post by cr4zyd4ve on Dec 1, 2008 20:14:08 GMT
Thats where I've been going wrong then! I'll try tomorrow and not tell them what I want one for. A gerbil is for life not just for obsene sexual acts people!
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