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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 30, 2008 12:57:34 GMT
IMO Cort is the poorest defender in the current crop by a mile, lightweight not a good tackler never tight enough to the opposition not very quick and poor positioning, so why pay out over £2m for Sonko then have him sitting on the bench while playing the crap Cort? Gouranga.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Nov 30, 2008 13:33:05 GMT
Twatlock. . . Were you in attendance last season at all? Were you at the Liverpool game?
Cort has MORE than proved himself to be worthy of a place in the Team.
Sonko has played very little because...
A. Hes got a bit of 'Duberry' in him ( Donkey, dodgy touch, just boots it!) B. He's always Injured C. From what Ive seen, he's Shit!
If your reasons for dropping Cort as per the above, then lets go back to Ryan Shawcross's complete Nightmare against Bolton, he did nothing right. But look at him now.
Cort has been one of the outstanding players over the past year & half, and I was so glad to see him given the nodd ahead of the Unworthy Donkey that is Sonko.
Long may Cort continue (Until Shawcross comes back)
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 30, 2008 13:45:56 GMT
Cort was fantastic v Liverpool but to be fair that was his one great moment so far this season. I don't think there's a lot to choose between him and Sonko - Sonko's the better marker and Leon's stronger going forward, so given our GD I'd probably give Sonko first pick next time but hope Ryan's back and we don't have to make that choice.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 30, 2008 13:56:47 GMT
Sal you took the words out of my mouth. But to answer your q’s Volvic, yes I was in attendance last season, no I didn’t go to the Liverpool match although I did watch it live and he had his best game in a Stoke shirt that day what a pity he can’t consistently produce the same form or come to think of it what a pity he’s only ever produced a performance like that once for Stoke. Your statement “Cort has been one of the outstanding players over the past year & half” clearly shows you know fuk all about football. Gouranga.
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Post by big bea on Nov 30, 2008 14:03:43 GMT
sonko is unreliable a calamity a complete waste of money
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 30, 2008 14:13:41 GMT
i wouldnt say sonko is shit! hes an accomplished center back, just been unlucky with his injuries since joining us
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 30, 2008 16:06:48 GMT
I think if Shawcross played yesterday that goal would not have been conceded.
Oh and people are saying did You see Cort last season-I did and I wasn't that impressed with his defending truth be told!
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Post by nathan on Nov 30, 2008 16:15:09 GMT
Twatlock. . . Were you in attendance last season at all? Were you at the Liverpool game? Cort has MORE than proved himself to be worthy of a place in the Team. Sonko has played very little because... A. Hes got a bit of 'Duberry' in him ( Donkey, dodgy touch, just boots it!) B. He's always Injured C. From what Ive seen, he's Shit! If your reasons for dropping Cort as per the above, then lets go back to Ryan Shawcross's complete Nightmare against Bolton, he did nothing right. But look at him now. Cort has been one of the outstanding players over the past year & half, and I was so glad to see him given the nodd ahead of the Unworthy Donkey that is Sonko. Long may Cort continue (Until Shawcross comes back) I was in attendance last season and was in attendance against Liverpool. Cort gave his best Stoke performance at Liverpool and was superb. However, I've been distinctly unimpressed L'pool performance aside. He's slow, rarely puts his foot in, lacks quality on the ball, indecisive and remarkably easy to knock off the ball given his height. His goalscoring record seemingly disguises the fact that Leon Cort is an average fizzy pop defender at best. I said it last season and I stand by those comments. Cort is not, and never will be, close to being good enough on a consistent basis at this level and I sincerely hope we offload him in Jan. I'd settle for 750k, personally.
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Post by march4 on Nov 30, 2008 16:53:19 GMT
Cort is another of our average Championship players. If we can make a few more signings of real quality in January, I think he will be out of the door. Yesterday he was far too hesitant - giving opponents too much time and space. The goal was partly his fault as was the second goal against Chelsea. I am glad Shawcross is developing so quickly as he and Ab Faye are looking a good partnership.
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Post by stokemark on Nov 30, 2008 17:35:41 GMT
I agree about Cort
Sadly I dont think much of Sonko either
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 30, 2008 17:41:47 GMT
Sonko will be decent cover for Shawcross. Cort needs getting rid of fast.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 30, 2008 17:52:13 GMT
Cort was a liabilty last year and we conceded countless goals because of his defensive blunders, some will cloud the issue due to his goals, but I am positive he gave far more away due to sloppy, powder puff defending than he scored last season. I hope we don't see him in a Prem game for a good while, nothing against the lad, but he just isn't good enough.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 30, 2008 17:55:13 GMT
"Cort has been one of the outstanding players over the past year & half"
Whilst I respect your opinion, his goals apart (a huge bonus for a defender), his defending is very, very poor - the reason he's in the team.
How on earth can you have a defender who has never been booked!!!! Dunna give me all this "it's good defending not diving in" nonsense - the lad rarely puts a tackle in. Blocks, yes, but we need our defenders to be tight to their man.
The King v Cort battle yesterday saw one player bully and dominate another. Sdly, that battle didn't go our way.
If Davies is half decent, I'd have the pecking order as:
Ab Faye Ryan Higgy Sonko = Davies = Cort
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Post by jay1610 on Nov 30, 2008 20:11:39 GMT
I like Cort, he doesn't seem (although his apparent antics v Tottenham suggest otherwise) to be a big time Charlie. Like others have said, his goals overshadowed defensive shortcomings last year, I always think he's got a mistake in him and was bricking it pre Villa because of Agbonlahor's pace. He excelled in that game and Liverpool away. Shawcross is obviously above Sonko & Cort. It's a shame he didn't play yesterday because he would have attacked the ball in for their goal which not one other player did. Cort was closest too.
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Post by redgate on Nov 30, 2008 21:06:38 GMT
i cant remember cort winning 1 header yesterday
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