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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 23, 2008 14:21:59 GMT
Huddy, i think nearly 100% of Stoke fans will agree with you. He aint good enough for the prem, i even think if you asked cressy he would say the same. But the bloke gives us 100% every time he pulls the famous red and white on. So everytime he turns out for us i'll give him 100% of my support, untill we can replace him with better quality. Exactly Kev, a little balance goes a long way mate. Unfortunately fromafar in unbalanced.
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Post by slangking on Nov 23, 2008 14:24:20 GMT
bunnyscfc says Cresswell was top man yesterday. how can that be when Sidibe is the one that scored?? Most of the open minded sort on here seem to agree (from the threads i have read) that it was apretty dire match, so if Cresswell was top man, then that explains why it was. Thanks bunnyscfc fro clarifying that for me Fromafart, I think you should stick to baseball, you clearly have no fcuking idea about football, sorry soccer.
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2008 14:24:42 GMT
well stokelad84, i watch EVERY game, so thats what you get for thinking!!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 23, 2008 14:25:11 GMT
Well said Bunny. As you say points are a priority. If style of play was what counted then West Brom would be sitting in our position in the league and we would be where they are - at the bottom.
I think fromafar has become a Stokie by accident as he talks like a Baggie. Perhaps he should support them - I'm sure he'd be happier surrounded by like-minded fans.
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Post by Del Boy on Nov 23, 2008 14:26:25 GMT
what do you want cresswell to do ?!?!
he came on yesterday unexpected and ran his bollox off for 80mins, chased everything and made a few decent runs he just didnt get the chance in front of goal.
maybe he isnt a premiership striker but he came on yesterday and did more than enough to help us WIN and get the 3points
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2008 14:28:40 GMT
jamo, thank you for finally saying something true, "he didnt score, he didnt have the opportunity to score"" my point exactly!!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 23, 2008 14:32:00 GMT
And how is that his fault exactly? It was a poor game of little incident but he played his part in a hard fought and vital win. Why slag a Stoke player off like that at all especially when he did nothing wrong and worked for the team?
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 23, 2008 14:32:59 GMT
so because cresswell had no attempts on goal automatically means stoke are shite, play shite football and are certain to go down??? if you have been to ANY games this season you wouldn't have those views. you can be a keyboard warrior all you like, for example if i said "i was a ball boy at the 1972 league cup final, i was honest!" doesnt really mean its true!! just like you apparently seeing every game cant be true
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Post by slangking on Nov 23, 2008 14:33:07 GMT
There is little value in arguing with this moron.
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Post by stokelad84 on Nov 23, 2008 14:39:27 GMT
is fromafart the same person who thought we should sign big fat ronaldo cos he was a freebie??
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 23, 2008 14:40:02 GMT
Me: Cresswell was possibly top man yesterday From afar: (bunnyscfc says) Cresswell was top man yesterday
Can you see the word that fromafar has missed out, by accident I'm sure?
Television wouldn't have done us or Cress any favours yesterday. His movement off the ball was superb - indeed, he got into some great positions and his only fault was that he couldn't metamorphosise himself into Ricardo Fuller.
Perhaps such a machine will be on Cress' Xmas wish list?
I hope that Stoke grind out 10 or so other mundane 1-0 wins before May 2009. Those who don't like that can always press the 'Off' switch, I suppose.
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Post by kkkkken on Nov 23, 2008 14:47:09 GMT
Fromafar is one of those Brits abroad who never gets back home for a visit , lives in the past, if he hadn't put on so much weight he would be still wearing the same clothes he had on when he flew over here in the 70's.
More to the point doesn't understand the modern game.
When he first started posting on the oatcake he freely admitted that he lost touch with the game and Stoke altogether.
So how can he be taken serious ? .
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2008 14:58:45 GMT
well if nothing else, i have had some good laughs from the replies to my thread. I was wondering when the kkkklansman would slither out from under his sheet. Hmm, funny since i go back to England every year i must have totally forgotten where Stoke is. Ok clods, never said anything about not being a Stoke fan or that they are crap or Pulis is an idiot. But i have read in a dozen papers, a dozen sites (the official report from the Oatcake included) many posts from people on here and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, has said what a pretty crappy game it was, forboth teams, regardless of the final score! Wake up and grow up you people, it really really is OK to say something disparaging about the team you claim to support. I hope we beat Hull next week, but if we play like we did today,hmmm who knows!!??
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Post by fca47 on Nov 23, 2008 15:12:09 GMT
You are a real piss taker, I find it hard to believe you actually believe this crap yourself. Cresswell is a good honest pro who gives his all for the team, any team can improve its skill level by paying £30 million for players, but you can't buy motivation and team spirit. Stoke will never be Man U or Chelsea, we will never have the money, but we can try and bridge the gap with team spirit and players who give their all. Mama and Cresswell being prime examples.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 23, 2008 15:13:17 GMT
So, you've read in the papers what a crappy game it was. So, is that the reason for your post - just regurgitation of what you read in the papers?
We all agree it wasn't a classic game by any means. But, given that our player of the season last year (Lawrence) was out injured, our best attacker (Fuller) was suspended and his replacement (Kitson) was carried off after 9 minutes it was an important and welcome win in a "six pointer" against a team who are the self appointed players of the beautiful game.
We won, we deserved to win, they had two shots on goal in 90 minutes and their squad cost about £15 million more than ours. Job done! Satisfied? You bet we are!
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Post by kkkkken on Nov 23, 2008 15:15:54 GMT
Go back to Stoke every year ??? ???.
You posted on here, that not long ago you went back for the first time since you emigrated.
Why are you obsessed with the Klan ?
Nothing what you say about yourself adds up,you are literally full of shit.
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Post by kingdeano on Nov 23, 2008 15:25:02 GMT
i thought creswell did ok yesterday, but dont get carried away with that performance against one of the poorest teams in the league! he didnt really stand out, he just did a typically hard working display and caused a few problems amongst their back 4. is he good enough though?? no he aint. it may sound harsh because as a proffessional his attitude is 1st class, but im sorry i prefer see someone with a bit more pace and someone who is a genuine threat on goal rather than a hard worker.
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Post by stokemark on Nov 23, 2008 15:27:37 GMT
Id like to know how youv 'watched every game'
Some of our matches have not been streamed live and you live in fucking America
Tit
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Post by padders01 on Nov 23, 2008 15:30:21 GMT
Not bad to win with two strikers who cost a total of ZERO pounds up front for 80 minutes
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Post by kkkkken on Nov 23, 2008 15:34:36 GMT
Like I said he's full of shit .
I don't believe for one minute he lives in the States .
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 23, 2008 15:34:34 GMT
Cresswell was possibly top man yesterday. Some of the dross we've seen at Stoke over the years that never got slated eg. Mick Kennedy. We have a bloke who would run through a brick wall for us, clean our cars and then buy a round. A bloke who was as instrumental as ANYONE in getting us to where we are, and one who always puts a massive shift in. He might not be good enough, but the lack of respect I see and hear from some Stokies is staggering. I just don't know what some people expect. Our goal yesterday came from some excellent movement from Cress. Our next best chance (Soares shot) was from Cress winning a 70-30 ball on the edge of their box. If we sign a couple in the window, I'd happily say goodybye to the bloke and hope he gets the signing on fee and (possibly last) contract that such a great pro deserves. And when he returns to the Brit, I'd shake the bloke by the hand and thank him for what he's done for us. HE plays as if he's one of us down there - and that's all I can ask of anyone. Ability? That's ultimately for the manager to judge, isn't it? And TP certainly feels he's worth keeping. Yesterday, a day when he made life a constant misery for Albion through sheer bloody-mindedness, shows just why TP still has Cress at Stoke. By all means, have a constructive pop when he's poor, but he was 8/10 for me yesterday. I don't really know much more he could have done - he played at the maximum. Spot on post. I never get excited when he comes on either but the slating he gets sometimes is just a joke. If he's not good enough then point all your abuse at Pulis as Cresswell's a true pro in my eyes and will never get anything but respect. As a left winger in the prem i just dont want to see him but as a 4th striker when we have injuries and suspensions he's absolutley perfect. He won't be in changing rooms whining when he's not playing and gives it everything he's got. As for slagging him off for yesterday .... i seriously hope his critics are not suggesting Pericard was the answer ... are you? Well unless you are i suggest you give the bloke some credit and save your complaining for Pulis if he doesn't get anyone better in in January.
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Post by potters 22 on Nov 23, 2008 15:50:00 GMT
Fromafar spouts his shite about stoke and never actually attends ANY games,anyone who was at the match yesterday would have seen cressy gave his all and was no worse than any other player out there! It was a gritty team performance yesterday with noone standing out,keep up the good work cressy!
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Post by daverichards on Nov 23, 2008 17:16:39 GMT
I'd actually value your opinions if you'd seen us play in the last god knows haw many years .
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Post by steve66 on Nov 23, 2008 17:44:13 GMT
Thought our ball retention was pretty good yesterday without creating a great deal but then you have to consider that west brazil quite plainly came for a point so therefore the middle of the park was more congested to get through but we kept at it produced the best football of the day culminating in a goal which deservedly won us the match ffs sake some people just don't look at the bigger picture,we are not entitled and teams are not obliged to GIVE us the three points you know!! As for Creswell I thought he ran his sock's off and chased down defenders all afternoon but yes I also know there are better option's when TP sorts that one out in the transfer market.
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Post by fromafar07 on Nov 23, 2008 17:45:35 GMT
saw 2 games last season. and yes , every game IS streamed over here, or maybe im watching the Vale play all these premier league teams!! the fact that Cresswell runs up and down all match, is, for some strange reason a telling tale for some people. I could run up and down a pitch just as much as him, and DO, just as much as him.......NOTHING!! now if he ran up and down and actually showed some skill, actually got close to the goal, actually helped someone else get close to goal, maybe even take the ball without immediately being disposessed by an opposing player, then and only then will, "runnung up and down working his socks off" actually man something. Sidibe runs up and down the pitch, he scores every now and then, he passes and makes opportunities (like Delaps goal) he has shots on goal, like yesterday. If Cresswell even came close to Sidibe's talent, i will leave him alone. Until then , imo, all he is doing is taking up space on a team, where someone else,MIGHT do a better job
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Post by salopstick on Nov 23, 2008 18:21:21 GMT
Cresswell worked bloody hard and i didn't think he had a bad game thats because he was played in his correct position its not rocket science
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 23, 2008 18:25:49 GMT
"If Cresswell even came close to Sidibe's talent, i will leave him alone. Until then , imo, all he is doing is taking up space on a team, where someone else,MIGHT do a better job "
Please look in the goals column from last season. Not knocking Mama, but one of Sidibe and Cresswell played out of position in almost every single game of that epic year. Have a guess who it was.
Also, have a look who also helped to set up our winner yesterday. <holds breath>
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 23, 2008 18:25:58 GMT
Oh well, fromafar slating Cresswell and giving credit to Mama is a big step forward from his earlier posts where he slagged off Mama! ;D Progress of sorts methinks!
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Post by daverichards on Nov 23, 2008 18:30:46 GMT
yes of course watching the game on t'internet is just like being there isn't it , I've watched a few on that and frankly the quality is wank and you may as well listen to nige on radio stoke , you never get the whole picture, if you did we wouldn't spend vast sums of money going to see games live would we
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 23, 2008 18:35:39 GMT
Generally I'm happy to read other people's views about all things to do with Stoke City. Often I don't share those views, but I feel differences are important in all things. The world would be a boring place without debate, and if we all agreed then there would be no debate. This forum is a wonderful platform for us all to share our opinions and to find out what others think, and I defend the right of everyone to use it.
Having said that can we all agree to ignore the ridiculous out pourings of this idiot in the future. If we starve him of the attention he craves and probably is unable to find anywhere else he might just grow up, or even just go away.
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