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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:01:35 GMT
I reckon after today's game, T.P should keep playing him. He was on fire in his first start against Spurs, and he was outstanding again today.
Permanant first team place maybe?
Im thinking we play him on one wing, and Tonge on the other.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2008 22:04:15 GMT
He played well but at the same time TP got the timing of his sub spot on. I'd play either one of them on the wing and then do what we did today.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:11:37 GMT
What? He was crap! Did you go to the game? OUTSTANDING? unbelievable!
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:14:57 GMT
Rightt.
Ok Ukstoke.
I bet you think Lee Mason was an great ref today aswell eh?
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:18:37 GMT
Stoketom, are you trying to get attention? Bit bored tonight! Soares was far from good! Tonge was 5 times the player!
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Post by tawafij70 on Nov 22, 2008 22:20:28 GMT
Thought Soares was pretty poor today to be honest, especially his crossing. Only decent bit of play was just before he got subbed!
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:21:22 GMT
Yeah, im trying to get attention? I think Soares was cracking today mate. Tonge was good too, im not taking that away from the lad.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so dont start slating someone for putting theirs down.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:21:58 GMT
Taw I totally agree. I laughed to myself when Pulis took him off as I thought he looked his most promising! Hasn't impressed me greatly at all.
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Post by tawafij70 on Nov 22, 2008 22:25:34 GMT
You sometimes wonder if people are watching the same game as you ?? At what stage of the game was Soares 'cracking'??. Not saying i dont rate the lad but as i said pretty poor today.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:27:47 GMT
Again, I was thinking the same. What did people see that I didn't? I look for the best from Stoke players but I haven't seen too much from Soares. I am sure he will improve tho
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:30:37 GMT
He will improve, even if we do have different opinions. He is only young, but i think if Tone works on him a bit, he could turn out even better.
He can play well, got pace, skill and can cross a ball very well. He's going to be a top player in my opinion.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:31:45 GMT
I hope u r right Tom!
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:32:39 GMT
I hope so too haha!!
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Post by tawafij70 on Nov 22, 2008 22:34:32 GMT
Do think he has potential stoketom but just on todays showing felt he came up short.Do think he would be helped with a more attacking mentality from our midfield though.
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 22, 2008 22:35:30 GMT
I thought he was OK, nothing spectacular. Tonge looked class to me though when he came on.
We're missing Lenny though.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:36:29 GMT
I want to see more of Tonge (and Soares in the future)
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:38:15 GMT
We're missing Lenny though. See, i dont think we are really. Look at the games we had without him...we beat Arsenal, Spurs and Boing boing baggie shit, all at home. I think that Soares and Tonge are better players than him. This time last year, id be killed for saying that i dont think Lenny should play.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 22:40:30 GMT
Ha ha Tom! I promise I am not being contrart but we miss Lenny!! He is alot better than Saores at this moment in their careers
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 22, 2008 22:43:14 GMT
Lennys crosses are quality. afraid Soares'are'nt at the moment.
And of course 15 goals last year.
Is it a case of out of sight out of mind.
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 22, 2008 22:43:23 GMT
Haha fair play. I will agree though that Lenny has got more experience, and when he is playing properly, like he wants to play, he can be one of our best players... Its just so far this season, he hasnt really cut it. (well, the games he has played )
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 22, 2008 22:47:45 GMT
It would help if he wasnt fucking about off the pitch.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2008 23:30:37 GMT
I thought Soares did well but there You go! His corners were good which is something we've been lacking.
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Post by th05 on Nov 22, 2008 23:48:18 GMT
In the first half, all of his deliveries were spot on. In the second he had two that were very poor. Apart from them he looks solid.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 23, 2008 0:18:26 GMT
Thank Christ you don't manage Stoke City Tom,yes thank Christ.
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Post by bogus on Nov 23, 2008 0:28:01 GMT
In the first half, all of his deliveries were spot on. In the second he had two that were very poor. Apart from them he looks solid. I'd agree with that. As usual it's the couple of bad ones that people choose to remember. He's doin owrate!
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 23, 2008 0:42:23 GMT
Thank Christ you don't manage Stoke City Tom,yes thank Christ. Thank Christ some people agree pottersrule, yes thank Christ. Im not officially old enough to anyway, i dont see any 15 year olds managing clubs. Well...apart from Wenger's mental age
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Nov 23, 2008 9:43:22 GMT
We're missing Lenny though. See, i dont think we are really. Look at the games we had without him...we beat Arsenal, Spurs and Boing boing baggie shit, all at home. I think that Soares and Tonge are better players than him. This time last year, id be killed for saying that i dont think Lenny should play. i agree to an extent that we have missed Lawrence, the crossing yesterday was shocking in the first half, it got better in the 2nd half
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Post by walrus on Nov 23, 2008 10:01:39 GMT
He played alright yesterday without being as good as he was againt Spurs. I was impressed with Tonge after he came on though. I'd like to see one on each wing but I doubt it'll happen.
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Post by daverichards on Nov 23, 2008 10:10:40 GMT
Soares delivery was poor, both from deadballs and on the run. He's a good player, great with the ball at his feet and skips past players, but with no end product , he needs to work on that .
He was NOT great yesterday, and I thought Tonge did more usefull things in his time on the pitch .
He's still young, and if he can work on his delivery he will be a very useful buy, he needs to spend a bit of extra time after training working on it, he needs to make the effort to work on it as often as possible to improve that aspect of his game , if he could get his delivery worked on he could be an exceptional player
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Post by Bick on Nov 23, 2008 10:40:30 GMT
He was superb against Spurs... but yesterday?... weak.
Looked out of his depth and his delivery (barr one or two) were terrible. Hasn't earned a first team place yet.
Thought Tonge was superb when he came on.
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