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Post by Timmypotter on Nov 22, 2008 17:38:18 GMT
Who do we reckon should be starting out of these two if we're looking to attack in wide areas?
I ask as I thought Soares' delivery was shocking today and I don't remember being impressed by it so far. He didn't seem to be having as much joy with the ball at his feet as Tonge did when he came on either.
I spoke to a colleague who's a massive Palace fan a few weeks back, and I told him that Soares had looked quite good for us so far this season. I think it was soon after the Spurs game in which Soares played well. My colleague said that he reckoned I should reserve judgement on Soares until he'd had a full season with us (although he did also say that he'd been played in a more defensive posistion with Palace - out of position).
Interested what people think. For me, I reckon Tonge should be starting ahead of Soares.
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Post by AlanHansen on Nov 22, 2008 17:41:53 GMT
I like Soares, but to be fair Tonge looked excellent when he came on today. Hopefully the day will come when both of them can start.
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Post by ukstoke1 on Nov 22, 2008 18:04:57 GMT
Tonge by a mile!
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Post by th05 on Nov 22, 2008 18:06:58 GMT
Soares for me.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Nov 22, 2008 18:08:16 GMT
Hopefully the day will come when both of them can start. And play them where exactly We need Delap, A because of his throws and he isn't that bad of a player I think we also need a Amdy, Salif, Whelan, Seyi type player in the team, a ball winner, someone to break up the play and spread the ball about Then there is Liam Lawrence, who was vital part of our team last season although he's ha d poor few games and injuries this season! |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 22, 2008 18:12:02 GMT
If the Soarse against Tottenham is anything to go by then I can be a big fan of his, BUT on today's showing, I thought Tonge was twice the player in the short space of time he took over from Soarse!!!
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Post by big bea on Nov 22, 2008 18:28:38 GMT
my mate lives in london and goes every palace game possible, he text me just to laugh at we signed soares he says he can shoot pass and is very lightweight. i think the first 2 are looking to show,
tonge gets more involved in the game and looks for the ball more
tonge for me
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 22, 2008 18:32:58 GMT
Tonge, for the second time, produced a really impressive 25-minute cameo. He didn'tput a foot wrong, was hungry for work and classy too.
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Post by Timmypotter on Nov 22, 2008 18:52:31 GMT
Hopefully the day will come when both of them can start. And play them where exactly We need Delap, A because of his throws and he isn't that bad of a player I think we also need a Amdy, Salif, Whelan, Seyi type player in the team, a ball winner, someone to break up the play and spread the ball about Then there is Liam Lawrence, who was vital part of our team last season although he's ha d poor few games and injuries this season! Agree with T3. We can't take Delap out of the team until we have a more reliable route to goal than his throw gives us (and on the basis of his recent performances, until we've got someone who's a better wide midfielder). Pulis seems to prefer a solid, break-up-the-play kind of centre mid pairing, so it looks like Diao and A. Faye for the moment. I think the more likely change would be for more creativity in CM. Be good to see Whelan get a run. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 22, 2008 19:14:07 GMT
Delap is the centre mid for me. Tonge has been excellent when he's come on - deserves a start.
When fully fit:
Lawrence-Delap-Diao-Tonge
for me.
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 22, 2008 20:34:23 GMT
Before today I'd have said Soares, but now I reckon Tonge. Nothing like being fickle eh...
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Nov 22, 2008 20:36:50 GMT
Too early to make a judgement yet based on a few appearances for either.
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Post by icelandpotter on Nov 22, 2008 20:37:31 GMT
Tonge 100%, Soares is too lightweight and deliveries were crap today. Tonge has finesse about him and can put himself about.
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Post by abboscfc on Nov 22, 2008 20:42:47 GMT
tonge seemed to look good in the centre, he drifted in quite a lot against sunderland and looked better than when he was on the wing but he still a good player out wide
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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 23, 2008 0:26:13 GMT
Couldn't understand the enthusiasm for Soares after the Spurs match, it was a decent performance but not deserving of all the rave reviews he got on here. I've seen nothing before or after the Spurs game suggests to me that Soares has much to offer. He was a passenger today.
In contrast Tonge looks like a proper footballer to me who is well worth a run in the team. But I suspect Pulis thinks he is too lightweight.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 0:29:17 GMT
How is Soares lightweight?
For me it depends if Fuller is playing, if he is then Tonge if he isn't we need the pace of Soares. I thought Soares played well today and his corners were good. It was just ashame his final ball was poor bar the cross he did before he was subbed.
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Post by bogus on Nov 23, 2008 0:32:29 GMT
They offer us different things, ones a bit more pacier and direct, the other looks extremely comfortable and competent on the ball.
I feel sure they will BOTH be of great value to us as the season goes on.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Nov 23, 2008 0:38:15 GMT
If we can work on improving Soares' corners, I'd like to see him on the right, Tonge on the left, and Delap and Whelan in the middle. Never gonna happen though, too attacking minded and probably wouldn't suit our overall style of play. If we continue with Kitson I'm sure that would improve his game 100% though.
Plus there's the Liam issue. I love him as a player and reckon that on form, he'd improve us again... But to be fair we do seem to be playing okay without him.
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Post by Anto1962 on Nov 23, 2008 0:41:00 GMT
Tonge for me. Every time he has come on to the pitch we have looked a better side.
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Post by french toast on Nov 23, 2008 0:42:33 GMT
for me i should be right - left
soares-delap-oli-tonge
at least until lawro is fit
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2008 0:43:54 GMT
I thought Soares' corners were excellent today.
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Post by AstroTom on Nov 23, 2008 0:44:31 GMT
See, i could of put every last penny i had on you saying Soares tbh Ukstoke!  Haha! Im still undecided, both players have shown their worth. I only seen a few games, so im not passing judgement for a few games. |
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Post by arniepieinthesky on Nov 23, 2008 8:09:15 GMT
Tonge is the better player I think, more composed of the two..BUT Soares does offer more pace and can run at players, which can always pose a treat. At the moment I think Tonge warrents a place, with a fit and available Fuller I would leave Soares on the bench for now.
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Nov 23, 2008 9:33:31 GMT
has to be tonge for me, both in the sunderland and baggies games he has come on and we have played better as a result of him coming on
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Post by lordb on Nov 23, 2008 9:36:41 GMT
at home Tongue
away & Soares pace may prove its worth
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Post by walrus on Nov 23, 2008 9:37:08 GMT
Tonge was very good after coming on yesterday, but Soares has also showed us how effective he can be in games such as the Spurs one. That bein said, I'd like to see Tonge given the chance to start against Hull and see how he can influence the game when given a full 90 minutes.
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Post by Bick on Nov 23, 2008 10:49:23 GMT
I like Soares and I think that a fully confident Tom would be great.
But Tonge, when he came on had a STORMER! Was ripping them to shreads.
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Post by jarhead on Nov 23, 2008 12:11:14 GMT
BOTH FFS AT HOME!!!
FUCK FAYE OFF OR DIAO PUSH DELAP IN THE MIDDLE AND GET AT TEAMS BETTER ESPECIALLY AT HOME!
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Nov 23, 2008 12:17:21 GMT
For creativity probably Tonge, as he has more experience as well
What I do like about Soares is that he gets in scoring positions (albeit he has missed good chances against Spurs and again yesterday) with a free header straight at Frank
Both will have parts to play in a long season
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Post by fortressbritannia on Nov 23, 2008 13:00:24 GMT
my midfield would be
Soares Lenny/Amdy(depends who we are playing) Rory Tongue
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