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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 18, 2008 12:41:24 GMT
His loan runs out in December and he appears to be heading for the top. Shoudl we get on the blower to Chelski and let them know that we'll have him if they want him to have half a season in the Prem rather than another 6 months in the CCC
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 18, 2008 12:42:49 GMT
(words you never thought you'd type, #1 of a series of 1)
In fairness, Griffin is doing a brilliant job. Of the areas that need strengthening, right back isn't on of them.
(and relax)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2008 12:43:09 GMT
Never been impressed with him when he came up here with QPR. He always looked the worst player on the pitch to me and always had a torrid time.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 18, 2008 12:43:24 GMT
He's a CB
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Post by Bick on Nov 18, 2008 12:44:28 GMT
He does look awesome! It matbe worth a god, but as Vestan says, Griff is playing the best football of his life!
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 18, 2008 12:45:15 GMT
and as I said hes a CB
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Nov 18, 2008 12:47:03 GMT
i dont think he's as good as shawcross personally. he stuck out(in a good way) at qpr at the start of last season but they were pretty terrible at the time.... couldnt guarantee him football (i love saying shit like that!!)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2008 12:47:23 GMT
We have enough centre backs to shake a stick at and like I said I've never been impressed.
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Post by knowles on Nov 18, 2008 12:47:58 GMT
Everytime I have seen him he has failed to impress me and I was so shocked that he got called into the England squad (where was Ryan?).
Personally, I don't see what he would bring to our team- let him stay at Molineux (or wherever Chelski want him).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 18, 2008 12:48:15 GMT
i dont think he's as good as shawcross personally. he stuck out(in a good way) at qpr at the start of last season but they were pretty terrible at the time.... couldnt guarantee him football (i love saying shit like that!!) You think? I thought he looked terrible and we harrassed him I thought.
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 18, 2008 12:49:17 GMT
Knowles, In order for Ryan to improve, he has to learn to stay on his feet. I'm a massive fan of his, and no doubt he has incredible potential, but his he dives in too much. It shoudl be knocked out of him. Personally, i'd strap sandpaper onto his legs in training. He wouldn't fucking do it then.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 18, 2008 12:52:22 GMT
I personally have never been impressed by him but he has now got a lot more experience and is obviously doing something right. Plus he is a regular with England U21's whereas Ryan isn't so in a comparison he could be better.
We may have a million and one CB's but we are still struggling to find a decent partner or Ab Faye
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Post by knowles on Nov 18, 2008 12:57:38 GMT
VP- it was slightly tongue in cheek as I don't think Ryan is anywhere near ready for England level. However, if Mancienne is perceived as good enough, surely a lad who is starting for a Premier League side is too?!
I though Ryan was the pick of a poor bunch on Saturday.
Mancienne has been highly rated for the past three years (even before he made his professional debut) but on the three occassions I have seen him (as well as on TV) he has failed to impress me in the slightest.
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Nov 18, 2008 13:02:48 GMT
i dont think he's as good as shawcross personally. he stuck out(in a good way) at qpr at the start of last season but they were pretty terrible at the time.... couldnt guarantee him football (i love saying shit like that!!) You think? I thought he looked terrible and we harrassed him I thought. at our place i agree he was terrible, but i had the displeasure of catching a couple of qpr away games last season - and at the valley in particular he was very good (playing at RB) but as i said looking good with qpr against a poor charlton team wasnt a big ask - havent seen anything which tells me he is good enough to start in the prem, never mind england.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 18, 2008 13:06:10 GMT
I thought he had a good game for QPR in the televised game against us last season - the one in which Griff got his red card which was later rescinded.
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Post by beardofzeus on Nov 18, 2008 13:24:30 GMT
Defo do not need a CB plus he probably won't even play on Wednesday. Think people and the press are getting a bit excited over this kid and from what I've seen, not much if I'm honest, he has been alright. Nowt sensational though
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 18, 2008 13:25:47 GMT
He's got to get a fucking haircut. Gadzooks!!!!
Robinson
Mancienne Terry Richards Bridge
Walcott Carrick Barry Downing
Agbonlahor Bent
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 18, 2008 13:31:25 GMT
Wright-Phillips, Young, Barry, ME anybody but Downing
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Post by lordb on Nov 18, 2008 13:35:44 GMT
HAVNT been impressed with Manciene either,Wheeter looks a better CB we are short of fullbacks though so perhaps he could end up at RB?.
also is it only me who thinks that Downing isnt a bad player,shouldnt have gone to the last World cup but he can beat a man & get a decnt cross in. would walk in our side & he;s still young.
Ash Young looks a better player though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 13:36:38 GMT
Vestan, when making those kind of comments it's always safer to add the word "allegedly" just to cover yourself mate.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Nov 18, 2008 13:37:26 GMT
Downing is a good player but not an international player. Downing may walk into our side but so would Wright-Phillips, Young, Barry and Walcott
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Post by knowles on Nov 18, 2008 13:38:09 GMT
Downing is a decent club player and yes, he would certainly walk into our side.
The problem with him is that time and time again he fails to deliver on the international stage. Merely because McLaran was his mate, he has ended up with 20 caps which is scandalous.
Not even Andy Andrew Cole was given that many chances.
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Post by 606Stokie on Nov 18, 2008 13:42:21 GMT
We have enough centre backs to shake a stick at and like I said I've never been impressed. Bayern im with you on that one... Shawcross should have been there instead of him in the England squad
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 18, 2008 13:44:12 GMT
;D
I will speak to my lawyers in future WD
Fruitjuice.
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Post by beardofzeus on Nov 18, 2008 15:43:03 GMT
Liverpool were after Downing before the signed Riera. Stumbling block was Southgate wanting 15mill plus for him
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Post by th05 on Nov 18, 2008 18:26:21 GMT
Great young prospect, but I don't think that defence is our main priority at the moment.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Nov 18, 2008 18:29:36 GMT
We deffo need more centre backs... The more defenders away from home the more thrilling 0-0 draws will become a regular
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