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Post by swadstokie on Nov 16, 2008 23:42:15 GMT
i personnaly think our home form should keep us up maybe with a couple of draws and our seasonal win at the baggies
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Post by mumf14 on Nov 16, 2008 23:45:26 GMT
They should make all clubs narrow their pitches...!
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Post by swadstokie on Nov 16, 2008 23:46:08 GMT
well it would be too easy then wouldnt it
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Nov 16, 2008 23:50:14 GMT
away matches DO matter quite a lot IMO especially against the likes of wigan and other teams in the mix, we need to take as many points off these teams as possible on our travels, doing so will heap pressure on them and take the pressure off us for following home fixtures.
Away wins would only breed confidence for the team as they continue the way through the season on their travels.
IMO we need an away win soon to make the players and TP realise that we CAN actually pick 3 points up away from home.
We can not just rely on our home form to keep us up, because their will be times through the season when we dont get our own way at home, this is the premier league and teams in this league are more than capable of picking up results away from home.
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Post by swadstokie on Nov 16, 2008 23:53:40 GMT
yeah but having been to all the games this season i honestly beleive we go away expecting to lose but at home we beleive we are invincible with exception to chelsea game
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Nov 16, 2008 23:58:43 GMT
yeah but having been to all the games this season i honestly beleive we go away expecting to lose but at home we beleive we are invincible with exception to chelsea game yeah i agree with that, we do look a different team at home and long may it continue, but its a risky business just relying on our home form because there will be times at home this season when we dont have it our own way, a couple of suspensions/injuries to key players and we could be looking vunerable even at the brit |
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Post by swadstokie on Nov 17, 2008 0:02:13 GMT
we are vulnerable anyway we have ridden the rory factor and a massive amount of luck so far the players we have bought have pretty much dissapointed and its last seasons players that have shined ie fuller and griffen
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Nov 17, 2008 0:07:35 GMT
we are vulnerable anyway we have ridden the rory factor and a massive amount of luck so far the players we have bought have pretty much dissapointed and its last seasons players that have shined ie fuller and griffen spot on, for me only soares, higgy and Ab Faye have really shone so far for me, it would be good to see olly & Kits find form and lets hope this Davies looks the part when he's fit. But like you say aTM where would we be without Fuller, Delap and Griffin making such a difference |
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Post by swadstokie on Nov 17, 2008 0:09:31 GMT
i personnaly think we should be ok there are worse teams in this league than us
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Nov 17, 2008 0:13:53 GMT
yeah i think we will too,
sunderland, west brom, wigan(maybe), bolton,
I can see us finishing above all the teams above if we do the right thing in January and get some creativity and pace in to add to what we have.
Would still like to see us have a go at teams such as these though away from home and go for the win.
And my opinion on Manure was if the game was a write off then why not try and play a bit and put in a good account of ourselves, we had nothing to lose.
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Post by sunshiner on Nov 17, 2008 8:12:24 GMT
yeah i think we will too, sunderland, west brom, wigan(maybe), bolton, I can see us finishing above all the teams above if we do the right thing in January and get some creativity and pace in to add to what we have. Would still like to see us have a go at teams such as these though away from home and go for the win. And my opinion on Manure was if the game was a write off then why not try and play a bit and put in a good account of ourselves, we had nothing to lose. I don't think you will finish above us unless Keane continues with his attitude / tactics to games for the rest of the season. I would hope Saturday was a big wake up call for him. Its a strange league this season, some results have been more like you would get in Februaury or March. We have a better away record than a home record and only 1 point point of what we achieved for the whole of last season. So I think away points maybe more importat this year than in previous years. The reality is when push comes to shove whoever is relegated simply isn't good enough, all the teams involved will be able to pick out ref decisions that have gone against them (usually against the bigger clubs) all will point to injuries etc, but its simply not good enough. This year so far looks like it could be close for all 3 places and a relatively big points target might be needed. It won't be about the odd drubbing teams get it will be about what happens when a team gets on a bad run, there is always 1 team that seems to be relatively clear then drops like a stone, don't always go down but usually close. At the minute nobody can pick the 3 nobody is adrift and a few won't be spending anything in January without selling. We should be OK but on present form I wouldn't bet on it just have to wait and see for the next month or so, personally I don't think it will be until the end of January that you will be able to narrow it down, if I had to pick 1 at the moment it would be WBA perm any other 2 from 8 (including us) |
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Post by lordb on Nov 17, 2008 8:24:41 GMT
West Ham for me.
gentleman manager with no experience,huge financial problems so every decent player sold in Jan.
rock bottom for them.
WBA look toothless which I didnt expect whilst lacking bite which we all did exoect.
after that could be anyone,think someone might find themselves unlucky.
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 17, 2008 9:23:19 GMT
"Who cares about our away form"
Well if you don't you should.
The way the season is panning out with all teams out of the big 4 beating each other i believe we could need as many as 44pts to stay up. To expect to win practically all of those points at home is a very very big ask.
The way we are playing at the moment away from home if we scrape 1 draw every 3 or 4 games i'll be surprised and we'll win none.
Time for a differnet approach please Tone.
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Post by imallstokedup on Nov 17, 2008 9:29:11 GMT
"Who cares about our away form" Well if you don't you should. The way the season is panning out with all teams out of the big 4 beating each other i believe we could need as many as 44pts to stay up. To expect to win practically all of those points at home is a very very big ask. The way we are playing at the moment away from home if we scrape 1 draw every 3 or 4 games i'll be surprised and we'll win none. Time for a differnet approach please Tone. Agreed, without Rory we are doomed on current form / tactics. |
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Post by gilberto on Nov 17, 2008 9:55:22 GMT
our away form is completely inept. we look like a league 2 team. its all well and good setting up to be compact, contain teams and then hit them on the break but our midfield dont know how to pass the ball let alone counter attack with a bit of pace and make it count.
this 'setting up to avoid heavy defeat' mentality has got to stop because we wont gain the points needed purely at home. maybe its understandable at the big 4, but going to places like wigan with the same tactics stinks of simply being scared.
did the early defeats at boro and bolton cause this? we took the game to them early on and got punished and now TP seems scared to attack for fear of it happening again.
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Post by cousindupree on Nov 17, 2008 10:17:38 GMT
Jeez! If we carry on playing like we are away from home we will be relegated of that I am sure. We will probably need 43/44 pts this season and if our away form doesn't improve we will ahve to win 12/13 hopme games...very difficult
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Nov 17, 2008 11:14:40 GMT
Who cares about our away form? I guess the thousands of fans who regularly spend £30, £40 and £50 on tickets to go to these games might have some interest in the way we play and the outcome of the matches?  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 17, 2008 11:24:27 GMT
Any point away from home this season is a good point- even against the likes of Wigan.
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Post by Beardy200 on Nov 17, 2008 11:31:23 GMT
Any point away from home this season is a good point- even against the likes of Wigan. OK so if we lose every home game between now and the end of the season and finish with 2 x 0-0 draws you will be satisfied? Of course away points are good points but we were lucky to get the 2 points we got so far and if these 'tactics' continue on the road our home form will need to be practically untouchable. So far it's been great but can we expect it to continue like that all season? It'd be great if we can but i'd be surprised. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2008 11:34:17 GMT
Any point away from home this season is a good point- even against the likes of Wigan. OK so if we lose every home game between now and the end of the season and finish with 2 x 0-0 draws you will be satisfied? quote] That's clearly not what he's saying. |
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Post by MrMagic on Nov 17, 2008 12:50:56 GMT
What a stupid thread. So you don't care about the results of half of our games? FFS. If we have to put up with the current "style" of play, the minumum we should expect is to see a team that competes in every game. On occasions away this season we have been nothing short of shocking. Man u and Portsmouth being the main examples.
We had NO shots on target on Saturday. That is shit in my opinion.
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Post by ParaPsych on Nov 17, 2008 13:05:12 GMT
We really need to look at signing some quicker players so we can try and hit teams on the break.
At the moment if a team has a defender fast and strong enough to handle Fuller our midfield just don't have a clue, end up fannying about on the ball, then just kicking it anywhere.
After Fuller, Danny Higginbotham is about our best attacking threat away from home. At least he gets forward with some purpose.
I know Lawrence wasn't on top form before his injury, but I do think we miss him. At least he'll have half a clue what to do.
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Post by jcscfc on Nov 17, 2008 13:50:42 GMT
1. Points away take pressure off having to win home games. If we continue to pick up very few points away the pressure will mount for home games and we could come unstuck because of the amount of pressure involved.
2. The club owe it to the fans who spend massive amounts of money to put performances in to reward their loyality.
3. I was there as a guest on Saturday and felt sorry for the fans who had paid stupidly ludicrous amounts of money to watch a woeful second half performance
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Post by smapples on Nov 17, 2008 13:55:53 GMT
Away form = wins = points = survival.
Need I say more?
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Post by Danstoke82 on Nov 17, 2008 13:59:51 GMT
Yes in a nutshell, I care about our away style. Home form is great and all, but we need to pick something up away from home.
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Post by lexie on Nov 17, 2008 14:19:25 GMT
I have no problem with our away form at the big clubs but we defiantly need to pick up a few wins away, as our home form alone will not be enough for us to stay up, lets hope by the end of this year we will have a couple under our belts.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 17, 2008 14:20:17 GMT
If we go down with a decent home record, we could rue the way we played away.  |
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