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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Nov 15, 2008 19:51:59 GMT
Why og why do we continue to play this fella.
He brough absolutly nothing to the game.
It was one of the strangerst subs I've seen TP make in a long time.
Seyi wasn't playing that bad, He won the ball a lot but let himself down with his distribution...Distribution is something that IMO Whelan does pretty well. So when Seyi was subed it made perfect sense to bring whelan on, and play him in the same role as Seyi. If he wanted go width (why only go wide on the one side, and still have anothe rCM on the other) Why not bring tongue on!
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 15, 2008 20:10:14 GMT
I'll be forever imdebted to TP for the standard we find ourselves in, but I'm sorry, playing Richard Cresswell in the Premiership against the best team in Europe is simply negligent.
We have 3 other players who TP actually paid top dollar for, who can do a much better job than Cress. I'm not saying they're the answer, but Cress certainly isn't.
Thanks for a superb last 12 months Cress - in my eyes you did as much as anyone to get us here. But now it's time to let go. It's not fair that some will start hating the bloke when it's simply not his fault.
Ffs TP - please get Cress one last fantastic transfer deal which will see hem sorted both on and off the pitch. Love what he did for us, but he offers nothing towards our future.
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Post by kingdeano on Nov 15, 2008 20:14:14 GMT
one person to blame PULIS!!! he picked the useless prick!
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Post by jarhead on Nov 15, 2008 20:27:52 GMT
FFS,WHY PULIS?
THE BLOKE IS WANK IN THIS LEAGUE AND AT TIMES IN LAST SEASONS AND AGAINST THAT TEAM TODAY WHAT THE FUCK WOULD HE ACHEIVE APART FROM LOSE THE BALL 'EVERYTIME HE GOT IT'WHICH HE DID TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
PATHETIC PULIS,YOU PAY NEARLY 5 MILLION ON 3 NATURAL MIDFIELDERS BUT 'AGAIN' OVER LOOK THEM FOR THAT USELESS CUNT
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Post by Mars on Nov 15, 2008 20:40:55 GMT
delap was worse
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Post by kingdeano on Nov 15, 2008 20:42:54 GMT
delap can at least cause mayhem with a throw, what can cresswell do??
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Post by Northy on Nov 15, 2008 20:48:11 GMT
delap can at least cause mayhem with a throw, what can cresswell do?? and that's our trouble sometimes, TP's faith, shortsightedness and inabilty to have a plan B or plan C. It's a good job little ant has gone or else he may have come on for the last 2 minutes, one for the family album and scrapbook
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Nov 15, 2008 20:50:12 GMT
delap can at least cause mayhem with a throw, what can cresswell do?? Take credit for scoring some of the most important goals in Stoke Citys history.
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Post by kingdeano on Nov 15, 2008 20:53:11 GMT
what important goals in stoke citys history would that be?? stoke city was around long before last saeson! i thought 72 was history, or beating champions leeds 5 at home! or just missing out on cup finals against a cheating arsenal!
yes he did well last season, nobody is disputing that, but we should never be in debt to a player who was an average championship player, he simply aint good enough, time to go cresswell
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Nov 15, 2008 21:42:47 GMT
Really? Stoke City were around before 1989? And there was me thinking that they were a club formed specially for me to support.
I was reffering to the goals that aided Stoke's promotion to the Premiership, and in the process making us richer as a club than we've ever been. And personally, I rate being re-established as a top flight club again higher than I do being cheated out of a couple of cup semi-finals, a stage that we are currently one very winnable game away from acheiving again, ironically with a team featuring the same player that people seem to be needlessly slating.
I am not arguing that he is good enough to play out of position, away from home, against the Champions of Europe. But the fact is that no-one knows if he is cut out for the prem in his natural and favoured position, because he hasnt been given a chance to prove himself yet.
What I dont agree with though, and am pretty disgusted by, is the level of personal abuse that a bloke that gives no less than 100% every week for this club, is being subjected to by some on here.
I know he isnt technically the best player we have, but give the guy a break.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 15, 2008 21:48:30 GMT
"What I dont agree with though, and am pretty disgusted by, is the level of personal abuse that a bloke that gives no less than 100% every week for this club, is being subjected to by some on here"
Doffs cap.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 15, 2008 21:48:57 GMT
I can't understand why Cresswell came on today. I think Pulis has faith in him for his tracking back and ability to poach, but that only really works from set pieces. I'd have thought that he'd have been much better bringing on Tonge or sticking Faye on the right with Whelan in the centre. Having said all of that, Olofinjana was having a poor game but it surprised me to see him come off.
If we get all of our midfielders fit again, we should play this at home:
Lawrence - Diao - Delap - Soares
We need Delap back in the centre. He does his best on the left but he's no natural there. I'm going to whisper this quietly, but I think we'll see Kitson on the left before the end of the season.
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Post by whelan_6 on Nov 15, 2008 21:52:37 GMT
il never slag off a stoke player,it wouldnt matter who we fucking brought on today they were on a different planet to us.
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Post by stokemark on Nov 15, 2008 23:06:46 GMT
I dont think anyone verbally slagged Cresswell
The point is that he shouldnt be playing. We have players with more Premiership experience, who cost sizeable chunks of cash are clearly more capable than him
Its time to move him on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 16, 2008 0:19:55 GMT
People are just saying he isn't up to task and shouldn't be playing-that is fair. We all know the vital contribution he made but thats history for the here and now Cresswell should not play on the wing again in the Premier League.
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Post by swampySCFC on Nov 16, 2008 1:43:34 GMT
Why og why do we continue to play this fella. He brough absolutly nothing to the game. It was one of the strangerst subs I've seen TP make in a long time. Seyi wasn't playing that bad, He won the ball a lot but let himself down with his distribution...Distribution is something that IMO Whelan does pretty well. So when Seyi was subed it made perfect sense to bring whelan on, and play him in the same role as Seyi. If he wanted go width (why only go wide on the one side, and still have anothe rCM on the other) Why not bring tongue on! You started this thread and I am inclined to agree. Cresswell did fuck all and if I was Whelan I would be well pissed off.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Nov 16, 2008 11:32:58 GMT
Sadly there can be no sentiment in football, Cresswell did a great job for us last season but he is clearly not good enough to play in the premiership, as others have said we have signed whelan, soares and tonge , why not play them
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Post by bgpotter on Nov 16, 2008 11:49:38 GMT
i still think cresswell may be useful as a squad player to play up front if and when we get injuries/suspensions but cant see one good thing about putting him on as a midfielder when we have an expensively assembled bench of midfielders waiting to get on - Whelan must have been fuming! Is he really better than a £2m midfielder you just bought Pulis? I bloody hope not!!!!
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Post by dadofsam on Nov 16, 2008 12:06:39 GMT
'On you go Cressy'
'No boss, I don't think I'm up to it and almost any other of my colleagues here on the bench (including Simmo) offer a more attacking option, which is what we need'
Cressy doesn't unilaterally decide to go on the pitch - You have to wonder what is going on under that baseball cap sometimes
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Post by rabbigan on Nov 16, 2008 13:55:17 GMT
I frigging despair of Pulis and his use of Cresswell. He brings absolutely nothing to the pitch. He cant pass, cant head,cant run, cant cross, cant beat a man. On the bench we had Michael Tongue who but for all of 6 months of his career has been a wide left midfielder boughtto be" better than what we already had". (Reme,ber that is the TP test)
We have Whelan who has a defence splitiing pass, excellent cross and loads of quality.
Why please someone WHY Cresswell.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 16, 2008 17:21:17 GMT
Obviousy one of the reasons we went up etc, but the continued presence of him around the fringes is one of the most frustrating elements of the season so far.
And the fact that he is, more often than not, ahead of our £5m boys,Tonge and Soares, in the wing pecking order (especially away, for his perceived superior work rate) is symptomatic of our very odd approach away from home.
Pulis does a lot of things well, but he does really have some peculiar blind spots.
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 17, 2008 14:31:04 GMT
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Post by mongolikecandy on Nov 17, 2008 14:59:24 GMT
I'd say Smudge had that spot on. It's bizarre that we have more than £10 m worth of players only making the bench or not selected at all
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Post by tazi on Nov 17, 2008 15:37:46 GMT
Creswell should be played as a striker or not at all in this league.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 17, 2008 15:40:25 GMT
If Cresspoor is Premiership class, then there is still hope for me yet,& I'm half blind, a gammy knee & havent played nogger for over 25 years. ;D
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Post by tazi on Nov 17, 2008 15:45:28 GMT
And just what the fuck has "haven't played nogger" for 25 years got to do with it?.....
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Post by jacksscfc on Nov 17, 2008 15:46:45 GMT
Bloody hell, one loss out of 4 and pulis is this that and the other... Agreed Creswell should not have come on and in my opinion not made the bench, but he did and TP played him. Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think anybody in our squad would have made a difference to the result the way Manure played... Maybe just Maybe he was saving a few for WBA and Hull as the bench looked very understreangth on saturday to me.
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Post by neutron1 on Nov 17, 2008 15:50:00 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2008 15:54:48 GMT
Bloody hell, one loss out of 4 and pulis is this that and the other... Agreed Creswell should not have come on and in my opinion not made the bench, but he did and TP played him. Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think anybody in our squad would have made a difference to the result the way Manure played... Maybe just Maybe he was saving a few for WBA and Hull as the bench looked very understreangth on saturday to me. What rubbish! He's being playing Cresswell over the others all season. And people have been moaning about for a long time. I know I have! ;D
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Post by jacksscfc on Nov 17, 2008 16:01:26 GMT
bayern, if you read my post I said "in my opinion Cresswell shouldn't have made the bench" so I agree with the fact that people are moaning (and have been all season) about Cresswell, however this is TP's first mistake this season and I think the bench (as stated) was very poor on Saturday.
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