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Post by BuzzB on Nov 15, 2008 0:20:15 GMT
Argie. get this. the bus is parked. this is OUR day regardless, we will enjoy and no doubt you will be back at 5 tomorrow to either gloat or moan that we've bored the arse off you!
so long
farewell
and all that bollocks. ;D ;D
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Post by redmist78 on Nov 15, 2008 0:24:45 GMT
yes of course, you lot being REAL fans, you know, the ones who go to a few games against the bigger clubs, have far more passion than me and thousands of other united fans, because you are REAL fans with REAL passion, how nice for you. shame that passion wasnt evident till you got promoted and suddenly became a lot more passionate and a lot more loyal.
and for the record, ive been to every manchester united stoke match since 1975, so I know all about passion and support thank you.
and as a point of fact, YOU are the ones who seem to think youre our rivals, as you mention us whenever you can, a la nick hancock etc. you mean nothing to us. stick to port vale.
heres hoping your naughty 40 make an effort this time. would make a change.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 15, 2008 0:27:09 GMT
And that's the best you can do? A picture that says nothing. Why? Because you know it's true. You're full of shame because the rest of the footballing world looks down on you. You're just like your vile cancer of a club. On the contrary, a picture that says exactly why this thread has reached 100 odd replies. Theres a reason you don't hate Arsenal as much as us, and that picture says it all. You can deny it all you want but if we were a mid table club with fuck all in our trophy cabinet you wouldn't give a fuck about us and you certainly wouldn't have a front page with 6 threads dedicated to us you obsessed jealous fucktards. I'm not sure why I continued reading after the first sentence. You've never seen such jealousy from who? We don't give a fuck about you, in terms of size I'd compare you to WBA (and thats being generous). Rather than admire and appreciate or even give us credit for how we've transformed football in the last 50 years you've done nothing but slag us off and that shows your lack of class. You call Roy Keane, the greatest ever Irish player a cheat, you accuse us of buying the league like Chelsea when all our riches came from our success, you compare Stanley Matthews to George Best, arguably our greatest every player, someone who Maradona claimed was the best in the world, you seriously think we approach officials and offer them money in order to make us win, how fucking thick and ignorant and delusional are you? Bent decisions, bribing referees, 'Manure', how old are you? You support a nothing club that nobody knows and you'll be off our radar after your cup final tomorrow, at least until boxing day, enjoy your day out and take pictures to show your grandkids about the day you saw the European Champions live in the flesh. Oh and don't forget the standard 'WHO ARE YA, WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL TEAM, 60,000 MUPPETS, DO YOU COME FROM MANCHESTER, SEE YOU ON THE MOTORWAY, SHALL WE SING A SONG FOR YOU' like the small time fuckwits you are. You just don't get it. On the other hand, maybe if you were a mid table team you wouldn't have the same following of know nothign inebriates. Looks like I've touched a nerve though. You don't like being exposed do you? You're slumming it with proper supporters of a club you apparently don't care about at quarter past twelve on the eve of a match that could potentially end your title hopes (although it's equally possible that it could be another away defeat for us). Dear oh dear. Would you ever get scenes like our pitch invasion at Leicester at Old Trafford? No, the attitude of your supporters is always either "We didn't win something this year? How very blasé" or "We've won something, how very droll". That's right, I called Roy Keane a cheat. Tell Haaland he isn't. Can you ever really say that Keane was 'World Class' in any aspect of his game? A good leader perhaps, but a cheat nonetheless. Like Ronaldo, you can appreciate his qualities, but will always know that he's a cheat. Excluding Gary Neville, name one player in your first team who can be looked up to? Who you can honestly say, hand on heart, isn't a cheat? That includes frequent dissent, rolling over after a tackle, trying to get opponents book, dirty play. Innovations of the last 50 years? You really think you've innovated more than Brazil, Ajax or Holland? More than the Germans or Barcelona? The only innovations that you've been responsible for are the very cancers that haunt our game today. Best - Matthews is a valid comparison. You harp on about him being the greatest ever all the bloody time. How about a man who changed the game, was far superior in terms of talent and attitude and who was a role model for all people? A gentleman and football's first knight to boot. Best? A washed up booze addict who had some talent but chose to throw it away. Maradona said he was good though, so case closed. We all know that Maradona is the ultimate football authority and has impeccable judgement. The fact you refer to us and West Brom as nothing clubs shows how little you know about football. Between us and the other founder clubs, we practically invented league football as you know it. There can be no bigger innovation than that. Chip on your shoulder?
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Post by pretzel on Nov 15, 2008 0:31:35 GMT
... and these filthy rags have to ask why they're so universally hated? Wouldn't mind betting they're all here during the match tomorrow as well They're like turds that won't flush
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Nov 15, 2008 0:39:38 GMT
Best v Matthews is a fair comparison,George was an honest pro.Since then no Shit player compares Cantona,Ronaldo, Rooney -all cheating scum like your new friend Maradonna
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Post by ipswichpotter on Nov 15, 2008 0:46:43 GMT
"and for the record, ive been to every manchester united stoke match since 1975"
Did you go to the friendly at the brit when we beat you 3-1? How about the 93 league cup match at the vic? Steino, Steino!
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Nov 15, 2008 0:55:24 GMT
All season since Aug. there has been a very welcome interchange with members of other clubs particularly Hull and West Brom but also M/Boro,S/Land,Bolton on this board.Some funny,some nasty, some aggressive,some nasty but nevertheless all welcome. The one notable exception has been anyone from the Shit,But now on the eve of their cup final??? they come creeping out of the woodwork. Go home Scum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Post by Cal on Nov 15, 2008 1:11:04 GMT
quote: Oh and don't forget the standard 'WHO ARE YA, WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL TEAM, 60,000 MUPPETS, DO YOU COME FROM MANCHESTER, SEE YOU ON THE MOTORWAY, SHALL WE SING A SONG FOR YOU' like the small time fuckwits you are. hmmm cant you see a trend appearing there. I wonder why everyone sings those songs
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Post by generationex on Nov 15, 2008 1:41:35 GMT
I don't know why we respond to this sort of rubbish (although I recognise that I did too). If you love football the question 'Why do you hate Man United so much?' is like asking someone who loves music 'Why do you hate Simon Cowell so much?'
It's because the thing Man U fans support is the product they see most. The bottom line for 95% of Manure fans worldwide is the hope that a little bit of the clubs success will rub off on their shallow, pointless lives, in other words, glory by association.
Why should anyone hate a Man U fan? Surely the only decent thing to do is to pity them, they are as irrelevant and tragic as the numpty that tells you Girls Aloud are the best band in the world because they sold more records than you.
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Post by 10 Pint Potter on Nov 15, 2008 1:44:25 GMT
it is confusing that the hatred is so bad i must admit
people say they have brought their success, but the first time they wont the Premeirship, i'm sure they didnt make massive signings etc that gave no one else a chance, they earned a lot of their money from their early successes and used it to build. where as chelsea just had an owner come in and just splash millions on them in one go
trying to think back and looknig online i don't think they broke the 10m mark until thay got yorke and stam when they won the treble
I'm sure we wouldn't complain if we spent millions to get up to the top
i read also that a some of their chants like made england look shite are rsponses to england crowds who are so anti united.
ive been at england gave and heard songs like "stand up if you hate man u" which isn't exactly supportive to some of those players who were playing for england
with argentina - tbf i see jamaican flags in the brit, isn't that kind of the same?
not siding with them but just saying some of the extremly defiant hatred posts i've read in the last few days have been a bit over the top
i guess a lot of it is down to jealousy of their success
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 15, 2008 6:50:16 GMT
I don't know why we respond to this sort of rubbish (although I recognise that I did too). If you love football the question 'Why do you hate Man United so much?' is like asking someone who loves music 'Why do you hate Simon Cowell so much?' It's because the thing Man U fans support is the product they see most. The bottom line for 95% of Manure fans worldwide is the hope that a little bit of the clubs success will rub off on their shallow, pointless lives, in other words, glory by association. Why should anyone hate a Man U fan? Surely the only decent thing to do is to pity them, they are as irrelevant and tragic as the numpty that tells you Girls Aloud are the best band in the world because they sold more records than you. 17 posts...........that cannot be true with such genius coming from your fingertips. You have summarized superbly. The Simon Cowell comparison is ridiculously true. Invisible Karma to you fella, you said it short, sweet and with ultimate effect
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Post by milfman1 on Nov 15, 2008 7:25:56 GMT
if i listed all the reasons i hate the sh1t so much this post wud makes somes of teds little ditties seem short!!
one example of what absolute tossers man u fans are happened to me whilst working on the construction of the A50 through Longton some 10years or so ago. i was working with a brummie who mysterially supported utd but had never seen them play in the flesh but always took time out of his day to take the p1ss out of me for supporting stoke. i made him an offer that somehow i wud get us tickets for a utd game, whether it be home or away, and i wud pay for them, drive him to the game etc then i wud take him to a stoke game just to show him the difference between real support and the plastic club that he SUPPORTS. of course this was to much for him to take and he said that he wudnt watch any stoke game and only wud go to watch the sh1t if i got tickets for a game against the scousers, arse etc at old trafford or the away game at villa cos he lived 10 mins from the ground!!! just shows what brilliant fans they really are
what a complete wankstain he really was and utd fans generally are
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Post by argentina on Nov 15, 2008 9:32:00 GMT
I love the quotes about having no interest in the greedy, waste of space, useless ***** that are England. You may of course think that as a decent portion of the squad are Man U players that you'd be supportive. Arsenal fans i could understand more but i'm sure Rooney, Ferdinand, Brown & Hargreaves are your boys aren't they? Greedy, passionless tossers? .... OR are they 'conveniently' the only ones who do care? When England are playing obviously we want the United lads to do well. But you don't deserve them playing for you, after all the shit they've gone through from the Ingerlanders and Paul Scholes telling England to fuck off in 2004 was one of the sweetest moments of the decade. "Stand up if you hate Man Yoo" bellowed around Wembley throughout the 90's, our players booed with every touch. Blaming United for every underachievement; in 98 it was all Beckhams fault, in 2000 it was Phil Neville's fault, in 2002 it was Scholes for giving the ball away against Brazil for their goal, in 2004 Scholes was branded shit for not scoring for 3 years (despite being sacrificed and thrown on the left to make way for Gerrard and Lampard to play in the middle), in 2006 Ronaldo for 'getting Rooney sent off'. Its always our fault, people seem to forget the fact that England are quite frankly shit. The dogs treatment Beckham, Phil Nev, Rio and Ronaldo have received from England fans in recent years. The FA making an example out of Rio Ferdinand. Andrew Cole, despite being the best English striker the Premiership has produced, never getting a sniff at the national team. Steve Bruce not winning a single England cap. The media parade that are convinced that England are the best team in the world and have a divine right to win every competition they enter. The even more embarrassing fans who are not happy if they are not 3-0 up at half time in every game. Booing the team off the pitch, how classless can you get? Nobody seems to have realized that England are shite and play the most dire football on the planet. You live off 1966 and when the inevitable quarter final knockout comes you find it hard to comprehend...then you look for a United player to blame. Do you understand why we hate Ingurland now? Oh and there's no way we're going to support a team filled with the classless wankers we hate weak in and week out...Gerrard, Lampard, 'Jay Tee', Ashley Cole et all, fuck them, they're never getting our support. One love - MUFC. You can stick your fucking England up your arse.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Nov 15, 2008 9:53:06 GMT
I love the quotes about having no interest in the greedy, waste of space, useless ***** that are England. You may of course think that as a decent portion of the squad are Man U players that you'd be supportive. Arsenal fans i could understand more but i'm sure Rooney, Ferdinand, Brown & Hargreaves are your boys aren't they? Greedy, passionless tossers? .... OR are they 'conveniently' the only ones who do care? When England are playing obviously we want the United lads to do well. But you don't deserve them playing for you, after all the shit they've gone through from the Ingerlanders and Paul Scholes telling England to fuck off in 2004 was one of the sweetest moments of the decade. "Stand up if you hate Man Yoo" bellowed around Wembley throughout the 90's, our players booed with every touch. Blaming United for every underachievement; in 98 it was all Beckhams fault, in 2000 it was Phil Neville's fault, in 2002 it was Scholes for giving the ball away against Brazil for their goal, in 2004 Scholes was branded shit for not scoring for 3 years (despite being sacrificed and thrown on the left to make way for Gerrard and Lampard to play in the middle), in 2006 Ronaldo for 'getting Rooney sent off'. Its always our fault, people seem to forget the fact that England are quite frankly shit. The dogs treatment Beckham, Phil Nev, Rio and Ronaldo have received from England fans in recent years. The FA making an example out of Rio Ferdinand. Andrew Cole, despite being the best English striker the Premiership has produced, never getting a sniff at the national team. Steve Bruce not winning a single England cap. The media parade that are convinced that England are the best team in the world and have a divine right to win every competition they enter. The even more embarrassing fans who are not happy if they are not 3-0 up at half time in every game. Booing the team off the pitch, how classless can you get? Nobody seems to have realized that England are shite and play the most dire football on the planet. You live off 1966 and when the inevitable quarter final knockout comes you find it hard to comprehend...then you look for a United player to blame. Do you understand why we hate Ingurland now? Oh and there's no way we're going to support a team filled with the classless wankers we hate weak in and week out...Gerrard, Lampard, 'Jay Tee', Ashley Cole et all, fuck them, they're never getting our support. One love - MUFC. You can stick your fucking England up your arse. Wow, you guys really have been picked on over the years. The archetypal football victims. It really is a credit to you supporters, your American benefactors and your jolly little Scottish manager that you have managed to resist the dark forces that continue to gang up against you. Well done. I can't wait till you have Keane in charge. I might even subscribe to MUTV to witness that comedy of errors.
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Post by argentina on Nov 15, 2008 9:55:08 GMT
On the contrary, a picture that says exactly why this thread has reached 100 odd replies. Theres a reason you don't hate Arsenal as much as us, and that picture says it all. You can deny it all you want but if we were a mid table club with fuck all in our trophy cabinet you wouldn't give a fuck about us and you certainly wouldn't have a front page with 6 threads dedicated to us you obsessed jealous fucktards. I'm not sure why I continued reading after the first sentence. You've never seen such jealousy from who? We don't give a fuck about you, in terms of size I'd compare you to WBA (and thats being generous). Rather than admire and appreciate or even give us credit for how we've transformed football in the last 50 years you've done nothing but slag us off and that shows your lack of class. You call Roy Keane, the greatest ever Irish player a cheat, you accuse us of buying the league like Chelsea when all our riches came from our success, you compare Stanley Matthews to George Best, arguably our greatest every player, someone who Maradona claimed was the best in the world, you seriously think we approach officials and offer them money in order to make us win, how fucking thick and ignorant and delusional are you? Bent decisions, bribing referees, 'Manure', how old are you? You support a nothing club that nobody knows and you'll be off our radar after your cup final tomorrow, at least until boxing day, enjoy your day out and take pictures to show your grandkids about the day you saw the European Champions live in the flesh. Oh and don't forget the standard 'WHO ARE YA, WE SUPPORT OUR LOCAL TEAM, 60,000 MUPPETS, DO YOU COME FROM MANCHESTER, SEE YOU ON THE MOTORWAY, SHALL WE SING A SONG FOR YOU' like the small time fuckwits you are. You just don't get it. On the other hand, maybe if you were a mid table team you wouldn't have the same following of know nothign inebriates. Looks like I've touched a nerve though. You don't like being exposed do you? You're slumming it with proper supporters of a club you apparently don't care about at quarter past twelve on the eve of a match that could potentially end your title hopes (although it's equally possible that it could be another away defeat for us). Dear oh dear. Would you ever get scenes like our pitch invasion at Leicester at Old Trafford? No, the attitude of your supporters is always either "We didn't win something this year? How very blasé" or "We've won something, how very droll". That's right, I called Roy Keane a cheat. Tell Haaland he isn't. Can you ever really say that Keane was 'World Class' in any aspect of his game? A good leader perhaps, but a cheat nonetheless. Like Ronaldo, you can appreciate his qualities, but will always know that he's a cheat. Excluding Gary Neville, name one player in your first team who can be looked up to? Who you can honestly say, hand on heart, isn't a cheat? That includes frequent dissent, rolling over after a tackle, trying to get opponents book, dirty play. Innovations of the last 50 years? You really think you've innovated more than Brazil, Ajax or Holland? More than the Germans or Barcelona? The only innovations that you've been responsible for are the very cancers that haunt our game today. Best - Matthews is a valid comparison. You harp on about him being the greatest ever all the bloody time. How about a man who changed the game, was far superior in terms of talent and attitude and who was a role model for all people? A gentleman and football's first knight to boot. Best? A washed up booze addict who had some talent but chose to throw it away. Maradona said he was good though, so case closed. We all know that Maradona is the ultimate football authority and has impeccable judgement. The fact you refer to us and West Brom as nothing clubs shows how little you know about football. Between us and the other founder clubs, we practically invented league football as you know it. There can be no bigger innovation than that. Chip on your shoulder?[/quote Would you see those pitch invasion scenes at Stamford Bridge? The Emirates? Anfield, the Bernabeu, Camp Nou, San Siro? Again you've confused 'attitude' and 'small club'. If a pitch invasion to celebrate your promotion is your idea of passion or true support then suit yourself. You can have your little pitch invasion, but one thing I know is that the city of Stoke never have and never will experience the scene in Manchester after The Treble and Moscow 08. Half a million joyful reds painting the entire city red, the passion flowing through every home and street in Manchester. The euphoria we experienced in May is more than any little pitch invasion will give you but unfortunately that is something you will never understand. Snapping Haalands knee made Keano a fucking hard cunt not a cheat. Do you even know what cheat means? How the fuck would that make him a 'cheat'? Who excluding Gary Neville can be looked up to? Wayne Rooney, the lad every young boy in the park pretends to be; Carlos Tevez with his beastly attitude; Cristiano Ronaldo, who went from being a tall lanky teenager to the best player in the world in the space of 5 years through his own determination and will power; Paul Scholes, the best British midfielder of his generation and a United legend; Ryan Giggs with 750+ appearances and 20 years at one team, the definition of loyalty, a winger who rose through the ranks to make the position and number his own in the clubs most successful era (there has never been any other number 11 for United) and declined money-spinning moves to the likes of Juventus and Barcelona every summer; Wesley Brown, born in Manchester and supported United, rose through the ranks, remained patient as a squad player for half a decade, came back strongly from two year-long injury lay offs to eventually cement his place in the back four; Rio Ferdinand, the best centre back in world football today. Fucking hell that was easy, next please And sorry mate but I value Diego Maradona's opinion slightly more than a Stoke City internet warrior called MysticalDescent
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Post by argentina on Nov 15, 2008 9:59:00 GMT
it is confusing that the hatred is so bad i must admit people say they have brought their success, but the first time they wont the Premeirship, i'm sure they didnt make massive signings etc that gave no one else a chance, they earned a lot of their money from their early successes and used it to build. where as chelsea just had an owner come in and just splash millions on them in one go trying to think back and looknig online i don't think they broke the 10m mark until thay got yorke and stam when they won the treble I'm sure we wouldn't complain if we spent millions to get up to the top i read also that a some of their chants like made england look shite are rsponses to england crowds who are so anti united. ive been at england gave and heard songs like "stand up if you hate man u" which isn't exactly supportive to some of those players who were playing for england with argentina - tbf i see jamaican flags in the brit, isn't that kind of the same? not siding with them but just saying some of the extremly defiant hatred posts i've read in the last few days have been a bit over the top i guess a lot of it is down to jealousy of their success FINALLY A BIT OF SENSE So not all Stoke City fans are delusional, jealous fuckwits, glad to hear that.
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Post by slangking on Nov 15, 2008 10:03:52 GMT
Wes Brown! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
That champions league win, honestly who gives a fcuk? I don't remember any celebrations after it was won at all, were there any? I would guess what happened was that after John Terry missed the penalty to gift it to the shit the shit fans yawned and switched over to the 10 o'clock news.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 15, 2008 10:05:41 GMT
I love the quotes about having no interest in the greedy, waste of space, useless ***** that are England. You may of course think that as a decent portion of the squad are Man U players that you'd be supportive. Arsenal fans i could understand more but i'm sure Rooney, Ferdinand, Brown & Hargreaves are your boys aren't they? Greedy, passionless tossers? .... OR are they 'conveniently' the only ones who do care? When England are playing obviously we want the United lads to do well. But you don't deserve them playing for you, after all the shit they've gone through from the Ingerlanders and Paul Scholes telling England to fuck off in 2004 was one of the sweetest moments of the decade. "Stand up if you hate Man Yoo" bellowed around Wembley throughout the 90's, our players booed with every touch. Blaming United for every underachievement; in 98 it was all Beckhams fault, in 2000 it was Phil Neville's fault, in 2002 it was Scholes for giving the ball away against Brazil for their goal, in 2004 Scholes was branded shit for not scoring for 3 years (despite being sacrificed and thrown on the left to make way for Gerrard and Lampard to play in the middle), in 2006 Ronaldo for 'getting Rooney sent off'. Its always our fault, people seem to forget the fact that England are quite frankly shit. The dogs treatment Beckham, Phil Nev, Rio and Ronaldo have received from England fans in recent years. The FA making an example out of Rio Ferdinand. Andrew Cole, despite being the best English striker the Premiership has produced, never getting a sniff at the national team. Steve Bruce not winning a single England cap. The media parade that are convinced that England are the best team in the world and have a divine right to win every competition they enter. The even more embarrassing fans who are not happy if they are not 3-0 up at half time in every game. Booing the team off the pitch, how classless can you get? Nobody seems to have realized that England are shite and play the most dire football on the planet. You live off 1966 and when the inevitable quarter final knockout comes you find it hard to comprehend...then you look for a United player to blame. Do you understand why we hate Ingurland now? Oh and there's no way we're going to support a team filled with the classless wankers we hate weak in and week out...Gerrard, Lampard, 'Jay Tee', Ashley Cole et all, fuck them, they're never getting our support. One love - MUFC. You can stick your fucking England up your arse. Correct me if I'm wrong fella but your national side is England, your home club plays in England and you call yourself Argentina and expect respect. I for one had a little bet with my Mrs that Beckham would get sent off in the World Cup because of his arrogance and petulance. I was proven correct. He's grown up alot since and I don't dislike the bloke but his Mrs is a disgrace to humanity. Phil Neville was hounded by the media for maybe 10 minutes and not necessarily so. Truth is that he is not national side quality and the only reason he got to his position was because he was in a team that housed the like of Bruce who covered his inadequacies. I don't think any genuine fan is impressed by what the media is doing to our beloved sport but to be honest I have no sympathy for United whatsoever. You are a money grabbing PLC that shows little if any care for its shareholders or fans and in the long term when the media can no longer substantiate the masses that they pump into the Premier League it will be the SHIT, Liverpool and Chelsea who will hurt most. I wait for that day with baited breath and if one of you wankers ever dares say you have always had a soft spot for Stoke then you better be prepared for the initiation of your life ;D If you have not realised yet, I think I can say for the majority of the board that if your team and your fanbase were abducted by aliens then no-one would give a flying fuck at this end kid. In fact we'd celebrate like it was 19 fucking 99. If I could give you two fingers technically I would........ Tata ;D
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Post by redblue on Nov 15, 2008 10:07:14 GMT
What happend to your parade after the champions league final?
Oh yes two hundred thousand Rangers fans f***ked it up. GMP could'nt cope
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Post by argentina on Nov 15, 2008 10:25:58 GMT
When England are playing obviously we want the United lads to do well. But you don't deserve them playing for you, after all the shit they've gone through from the Ingerlanders and Paul Scholes telling England to fuck off in 2004 was one of the sweetest moments of the decade. "Stand up if you hate Man Yoo" bellowed around Wembley throughout the 90's, our players booed with every touch. Blaming United for every underachievement; in 98 it was all Beckhams fault, in 2000 it was Phil Neville's fault, in 2002 it was Scholes for giving the ball away against Brazil for their goal, in 2004 Scholes was branded shit for not scoring for 3 years (despite being sacrificed and thrown on the left to make way for Gerrard and Lampard to play in the middle), in 2006 Ronaldo for 'getting Rooney sent off'. Its always our fault, people seem to forget the fact that England are quite frankly shit. The dogs treatment Beckham, Phil Nev, Rio and Ronaldo have received from England fans in recent years. The FA making an example out of Rio Ferdinand. Andrew Cole, despite being the best English striker the Premiership has produced, never getting a sniff at the national team. Steve Bruce not winning a single England cap. The media parade that are convinced that England are the best team in the world and have a divine right to win every competition they enter. The even more embarrassing fans who are not happy if they are not 3-0 up at half time in every game. Booing the team off the pitch, how classless can you get? Nobody seems to have realized that England are shite and play the most dire football on the planet. You live off 1966 and when the inevitable quarter final knockout comes you find it hard to comprehend...then you look for a United player to blame. Do you understand why we hate Ingurland now? Oh and there's no way we're going to support a team filled with the classless wankers we hate weak in and week out...Gerrard, Lampard, 'Jay Tee', Ashley Cole et all, fuck them, they're never getting our support. One love - MUFC. You can stick your fucking England up your arse. Correct me if I'm wrong fella but your national side is England, your home club plays in England and you call yourself Argentina and expect respect. I for one had a little bet with my Mrs that Beckham would get sent off in the World Cup because of his arrogance and petulance. I was proven correct. He's grown up alot since and I don't dislike the bloke but his Mrs is a disgrace to humanity. Phil Neville was hounded by the media for maybe 10 minutes and not necessarily so. Truth is that he is not national side quality and the only reason he got to his position was because he was in a team that housed the like of Bruce who covered his inadequacies. I don't think any genuine fan is impressed by what the media is doing to our beloved sport but to be honest I have no sympathy for United whatsoever. You are a money grabbing PLC that shows little if any care for its shareholders or fans and in the long term when the media can no longer substantiate the masses that they pump into the Premier League it will be the SHIT, Liverpool and Chelsea who will hurt most. I wait for that day with baited breath and if one of you wankers ever dares say you have always had a soft spot for Stoke then you better be prepared for the initiation of your life ;D If you have not realised yet, I think I can say for the majority of the board that if your team and your fanbase were abducted by aliens then no-one would give a flying fuck at this end kid. In fact we'd celebrate like it was 19 fucking 99. If I could give you two fingers technically I would........ Tata ;D My national side is England and my home club plays in England, but at the end of the day United comes first. None of us got up randomly one morning and said 'lets all hate England', its a result of the massive ABU mentality from fans, media and the FA in the 90's and 00's. Maybe you won't really understand unless it happens to you but if the whole country turned on Stoke, the manager, players and supporters (for whatever reason) would you sit there for it to happen? If you're a lifelong football fan I'm sure you can understand how serious you consider your allegiance with your club and anybody who doesn't like them automatically becomes the enemy. It also just so happens that three of our brilliant players in the last 5 years (Veron, Heinze and Tevez) are Argentinian, and chanting the name of their country not only pumps them up but also winds up the ABU's and little Ingerlunders. Two lovely birds with one stone. It has nothing to do with nationalism or patriotism, its purely a football thing. I'm proud to be English and I roar on the rugby team, Murray, Hamilton et al, but when it comes to football I have only one love. It may have been different if the whole England setup wasn't a circus of wankers, from the players to the fans to the media. I also like how so many of you are blaming us fans for the way the club is run, all we do is support the team you cunts ;D
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Post by thegarageflower on Nov 15, 2008 10:35:43 GMT
The reason I hate Man Utd is because we're playing them today, the same logic applies to whoever we are playing. After todays game I'll go back to not giving a toss about them.
Most of the replies from fellow Stokies on this thread are cringeworthy, but that's what you get with internet message boards I suppose. Loads of kids running their gobs off.
And to all those of you who think all Man Utd fans are poncey, prawn sandwitch eating Southerners.... I think you'll be in for quite a shock when we play them on Boxing Day.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 15, 2008 10:47:20 GMT
' Who excluding Gary Neville can be looked up to? Wayne Rooney, the lad every young boy in the park pretends to be; Carlos Tevez with his beastly attitude; Cristiano Ronaldo, who went from being a tall lanky teenager to the best player in the world in the space of 5 years through his own determination and will power; Paul Scholes, the best British midfielder of his generation and a United legend; Ryan Giggs with 750+ appearances and 20 years at one team, the definition of loyalty, a winger who rose through the ranks to make the position and number his own in the clubs most successful era (there has never been any other number 11 for United) and declined money-spinning moves to the likes of Juventus and Barcelona every summer; Wesley Brown, born in Manchester and supported United, rose through the ranks, remained patient as a squad player for half a decade, came back strongly from two year-long injury lay offs to eventually cement his place in the back four; Rio Ferdinand, the best centre back in world football today. '
;D ;D
Christiano Ronaldo, a man who is clearly talented but chooses instead to turn himself into a complete prima donna. Look at his behaviour at Derby last year. His frequent diving is beyond pathetic. That's not just something I hate about your team either. I have absolutely no love for the likes of Adebayor, Heskey, Ronaldinho, Sagna and Walcott for the same reason. Wayne Rooney? Oh yes, that man who is again rather talented but chooses to taint himself by sticking his gormless face into referees if they ever give a throw in the wrong way. Rio Ferdinand? Idle, lazy, all that business with the drugs ban, can't head a ball. Other than that, he can defend a bit. Ryan Giggs, who chooses when he wants to play. Wes Brown, the orange man who looks half competent for your team when he plays with superior defenders. Do you know who the kids clamour to be nowadays? Park across the country, kids are trying to throw the ball as far as Rory Delap. They're bored of pretending to be suspiciously effete looking Portuguese players.
And, of course, Roy Keane going out to end another player's career isn't cheating. Of course it isn't. Are you in the 'Eric Cantona made no contact with the Crystal Palace fan' club? Being hard is taking no crap off anybody, not being afraid to tackle, standing up for yourself, having a bit of strength and shunning the divers. It is not the cowardly tactic of trying to end somebody's career while they're not looking on a football pitch.
Do you want to know who's a better judge than me and Maradona? Pele. Another of the game's real greats. Do you want to know what he said about Matthews? He said that "He was the man who taught us the way that the game was supposed to be played".
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 15, 2008 10:50:19 GMT
Oh, I forgot to mention Tevez. Carlos Tevez. The only two words you need to say when proving that Manchester United are corrupt. There was a precedent for the case, actually. Being a Manchester United fan you wouldn't know about it, as it happened over 50 years ago, but Leeds City were expelled from the football league for crimes in the same vain.
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Post by growler on Nov 15, 2008 23:34:02 GMT
Ok a lot of the hatred is irrational but to say it is jealousy shows that idiots like Argentina don't understand the nature of being a proper football supporter. While it is great to be in the premiership I would get just as much joy if we were winning league games against Macc or Rochdale. It is the club that matters not the size. And our history matters just as much as yours even if it is less glorious, just as we shouldn't deride Macc or Rochdale.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Nov 15, 2008 23:57:41 GMT
"You support a nothing club that nobody knows"
You certainly know how to post on a 'nothing club's' messageboard, don't you chief?
Key word in that is 'support' mate. We've been down shittier roads than you will ever visit, and stuck with our club. We could quite easily have taken the perceived moral high ground and formed our own 'ooh, look at us how loyal we are to the spirit of our club' splinter club because you were taken over.
Walk a mile in our shoes, and I tell you what - a large percentage of your support would have walked away. That's what seperates us.
As for numbers in the ground - funny how you didn't sell your allocation for the Coca Cola match at the Vic 15 years ago, after you'd won the league. Go on, make up some witty reply about how crap Stoke are and why would we want to visit that dump.
In fairness, I love Manchester the city, top place - just a shame it's wasted on you Mancs.
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Post by argentina on Nov 16, 2008 0:09:42 GMT
Ok a lot of the hatred is irrational but to say it is jealousy shows that idiots like Argentina don't understand the nature of being a proper football supporter. While it is great to be in the premiership I would get just as much joy if we were winning league games against Macc or Rochdale. It is the club that matters not the size. And our history matters just as much as yours even if it is less glorious, just as we shouldn't deride Macc or Rochdale. We get a 75,000 full house when we play Stoke and a 75,000 full house when we play Barcelona. You had 50% less people in your stadium when you were in the Championship last season. Sure you would get the same joy from beating Rochdale, so much joy in fact that you dont even bother to turn up in the first place
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Post by skip on Nov 16, 2008 0:14:51 GMT
Oh, I forgot to mention Tevez. Carlos Tevez. The only two words you need to say when proving that Manchester United are corrupt. There was a precedent for the case, actually. Being a Manchester United fan you wouldn't know about it, as it happened over 50 years ago, but Leeds City were expelled from the football league for crimes in the same vain. I'd be amazed if either West Ham or Man Utd were held to account for all this shady nonsense. If West Ham are fined heavily as has been mooted then surely it raises questions about Man Utd's role in the legalities of his employment.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 16, 2008 0:15:50 GMT
Your ground holds 77,000 you thick cunt. Learn some facts about your team before you talk shit. Thousands of empty seats and I could see them all in that top corner.
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Post by argentina on Nov 16, 2008 0:43:59 GMT
Your ground holds 77,000 you thick ****. Learn some facts about your team before you talk shit. Thousands of empty seats and I could see them all in that top corner. 76,212 actually, but I didn't realize you were not allowed to round off on here you pedantic twat
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Nov 16, 2008 1:03:33 GMT
Its a great pity that you weren't around in the 70s to witness the small knot of your supporters burning their Man United flags on the Stoke End of the Victoria Ground as they ended the season at the foot of the old division one. May be then you would understand where a club like ours and supporters the nation wide feel as they do.
The problem is, you see that many understand that there was a time before when people like the Edwards family, the Hill-Woods at Arsenal and so on came to the conclusion that they would stitch football up They would make oodles of cash for themselves, nasty things like relegation and failure wouldn't happen to their clubs anymore and they would be nailed on certainties to win something every year.
Hand in hand with all this comes the glory hunter supporter who don't understand what the Manchester bit in the name Manchester United actually represents and phone in talk shows from their Birmingham, London, Bristol and all homes calling Manchester by the familiarity of "we" did this and "we" should have done that!
As for your username and attitude to our national side; I'm hardly surprised. You would glory in the exploits of someone else's heroes, wouldn't you.
By the way...Veron. Isn't he the most expensive waste of toss in the history of English football? I bet you look lovely in your blue and white shirt at World Cup time. You will find a few in Cardiff of the same mind. Do you switch to yellow and blue when Brazil start doing well?
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