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Post by smalltime on Nov 14, 2008 14:28:46 GMT
We don't hate you, we don't really have any regard for you. You're just Stoke tbh. Proper answers please, none of the usual, ' none of your fans come from manc, gloryhunters blah blah' as it won't offend me as believe it or not i am a manc. It just baffles a few of us reds out there!
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 14, 2008 14:29:55 GMT
Personally speaking, i have absolutely nothing against United's team. They are, and remain, the standard bearer for Premier league football. At their best, they are utterly compelling to watch and the reason Ivan none of our players would go there is because they only way they'd get on United's payroll is if they were sweeping the stands. Don't begin to think we don't understand the limitations of our playing squad. United at their peak are in equal measure devastating, brilliant & awe inspiring.
What sticks in the craw of the supporters of smaller clubs is that Manchester United the business, not the football team. The supporters they garner from up and down the country who feel entitled to pour scorn on your team whilst sitting in a boozer 400 miles cheering on their "boys". The fact that in any given town or city you'll find kids walking round in Utd tops when their team up the road is losing two hundred grand a month and would kill for just the local kids to go to the odd game and support them instead of the team who wins every fucking week and the team they are never actually likely to see play in the flesh. The contempt they displayed by dropping out of the FA Cup to go and mince about in Brazil for the money, the million pound friendlies you play without giving anythig back to the game that gives you the platform to launch this "brand" which you and other supporters attempt to defend. Manchester United would like nothing more than to homogenise the entire footballing landscape, so we're all hanging on every word on MUTV whilst David Gill throws crumbs down from the table for the likes of Bury, Rochdale & Oldham to feed off. Everything about Manchester United the business stinks of shit, and if you think this is sore grapes, you couldn't be more wrong mate. I can't think of anything fucking worse than watching a team that thinks drawing away at Fulham should entitle it's "supporters" to bombard 6-0-6 calling for the managers head, despite his 22 years of unbridled success, and it would appear that it's not just the rest of the country that feels this way. Answer this:
If Manchester United is so fucking brilliant, if being a "Red" is the greatest feeling on earth, why did over 7,000 season ticket holders turn their back on the club to start their own club, a venture universally applauded by the rest of the footballing community? It's not just us that hates everything about "your" club mate, it seems even your own fans think it's shit these days as well.
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 14, 2008 14:31:21 GMT
Oh, and smart arse remarks like "You're just Stoke tbh" really help your cause on an opposition messageboard, you fucking 'tard.
And you're not a manc, because if you were, you'd support City like everyone else.
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Post by beardofzeus on Nov 14, 2008 14:31:18 GMT
Man U are in the same category as Leeds, no one really knows why they hate 'em, it is just a deep feeling inside that tells you to from a very early age
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Post by th05 on Nov 14, 2008 14:33:54 GMT
I hate the glory hunters, they should support their local team (which it appears you do so thats fair enough) and be jealous of Uniteds success like me! I also DESPISE Ronaldo, however good he may be.
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Post by smalltime on Nov 14, 2008 14:35:08 GMT
Personally speaking, i have absolutely nothing against United's team. They are, and remain, the standard bearer for Premier league football. At their best, they are utterly compelling to watch and the reason Ivan none of our players would go there is because they only way they'd get on United's payroll is if they were sweeping the stands. Don't begin to think we don't understand the limitations of our playing squad. United at their peak are in equal measure devastating, brilliant & awe inspiring. What sticks in the craw of the supporters of smaller clubs is that Manchester United the business, not the football team. The supporters they garner from up and down the country who feel entitled to pour scorn on your team whilst sitting in a boozer 400 miles cheering on their "boys". The fact that in any given town or city you'll find kids walking round in Utd tops when their team up the road is losing two hundred grand a month and would kill for just the local kids to go to the odd game and support them instead of the team who wins every fucking week and the team they are never actually likely to see play in the flesh. The contempt they displayed by dropping out of the FA Cup to go and mince about in Brazil for the money, the million pound friendlies you play without giving anythig back to the game that gives you the platform to launch this "brand" which you and other supporters attempt to defend. Manchester United would like nothing more than to homogenise the entire footballing landscape, so we're all hanging on every word on MUTV whilst David Gill throws crumbs down from the table for the likes of Bury, Rochdale & Oldham to feed off. Everything about Manchester United the business stinks of shit, and if you think this is sore grapes, you couldn't be more wrong mate. I can't think of anything fucking worse than watching a team that thinks drawing away at Fulham should entitle it's "supporters" to bombard 6-0-6 calling for the managers head, despite his 22 years of unbridled success, and it would appear that it's not just the rest of the country that feels this way. Answer this: If Manchester United is so fucking brilliant, if being a "Red" is the greatest feeling on earth, why did over 7,000 season ticket holders turn their back on the club to start their own club, a venture universally applauded by the rest of the footballing community? It's not just us that hates everything about "your" club mate, it seems even your own fans think it's shit these days as well. Some good points in there mate. I despise the owners of the club, doesnt stop me loving united, but im not gonna go into the polotics. Every club has wanker fans, unfortunately we attract more than anyone. Does it not annoy you with all your plastic fans you've gained this season. Pretty sure i wasnt just imagining the stands of empty seats for the last few years. And suddenly...........................nearly a sell out. Amazing that!!
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Nov 14, 2008 14:37:46 GMT
Nothing worse than walking round Stoke-on-Trent and seeing all these gloryhunting cockfaces! People who say they support United just because "theyre the best". The real Man Utd fans are the ones from the 70's who actually know what feels like to follow a team that isnt permanently in the top 4.
I HATE gloryhunters and your club has fucking loads of them! They need rounding up and shot!
Like above, ive got nowt against your team. Even got Ronaldo in my dreamteam at work. Just hope hes off form tomorrow!
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Post by vestanpance on Nov 14, 2008 14:38:25 GMT
Everyone has their good & bad mate, and i have no issue with the "real" Utd fans. And yes, we are benefiting from the Premier League experience, but honestly, you should hear some of the wank that gets spouted by some of your counterparts. You wouldn't fucking believe it.
All the best anyway, i can't be arsed to argue.
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Post by kingdeano on Nov 14, 2008 14:40:22 GMT
why do we hate man u so much?? why the fuck do you chant argentina to a ugly scar faced prick?? i could understand chanting his name, but why chant his country?? that chant is disgraceful to every englishman!
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Post by tazi on Nov 14, 2008 14:41:17 GMT
Personally speaking, i have absolutely nothing against United's team. They are, and remain, the standard bearer for Premier league football. At their best, they are utterly compelling to watch and the reason Ivan none of our players would go there is because they only way they'd get on United's payroll is if they were sweeping the stands. Don't begin to think we don't understand the limitations of our playing squad. United at their peak are in equal measure devastating, brilliant & awe inspiring. What sticks in the craw of the supporters of smaller clubs is that Manchester United the business, not the football team. The supporters they garner from up and down the country who feel entitled to pour scorn on your team whilst sitting in a boozer 400 miles cheering on their "boys". The fact that in any given town or city you'll find kids walking round in Utd tops when their team up the road is losing two hundred grand a month and would kill for just the local kids to go to the odd game and support them instead of the team who wins every fucking week and the team they are never actually likely to see play in the flesh. The contempt they displayed by dropping out of the FA Cup to go and mince about in Brazil for the money, the million pound friendlies you play without giving anythig back to the game that gives you the platform to launch this "brand" which you and other supporters attempt to defend. Manchester United would like nothing more than to homogenise the entire footballing landscape, so we're all hanging on every word on MUTV whilst David Gill throws crumbs down from the table for the likes of Bury, Rochdale & Oldham to feed off. Everything about Manchester United the business stinks of shit, and if you think this is sore grapes, you couldn't be more wrong mate. I can't think of anything fucking worse than watching a team that thinks drawing away at Fulham should entitle it's "supporters" to bombard 6-0-6 calling for the managers head, despite his 22 years of unbridled success, and it would appear that it's not just the rest of the country that feels this way. Answer this: If Manchester United is so fucking brilliant, if being a "Red" is the greatest feeling on earth, why did over 7,000 season ticket holders turn their back on the club to start their own club, a venture universally applauded by the rest of the footballing community? It's not just us that hates everything about "your" club mate, it seems even your own fans think it's shit these days as well. Some good points in there mate. I despise the owners of the club, doesnt stop me loving united, but im not gonna go into the polotics. Every club has wanker fans, unfortunately we attract more than anyone. Does it not annoy you with all your plastic fans you've gained this season. Pretty sure i wasnt just imagining the stands of empty seats for the last few years. And suddenly...........................nearly a sell out. Amazing that!! polotics.......Is that a new kind of mint or something?.
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Post by stan on Nov 14, 2008 14:42:02 GMT
If Manchester United is so fucking brilliant, if being a "Red" is the greatest feeling on earth, why did over 7,000 season ticket holders turn their back on the club to start their own club, a venture universally applauded by the rest of the footballing community? It's not just us that hates everything about "your" club mate, it seems even your own fans think it's shit these days as well. This is absolutely true. A mate of mine, born and bred in Manchester, who used to follow them home and away (including all over europe) hasn't set foot inside Old Trafford since the Glazers took over. He lives around the corner and will be joining me for a pint tomorrow, though. Despite not going to home games anymore, he does still go to a few away matches "for the crack". He can't wait for Boxing Day. He sees Stoke as a "proper club" and certainly knows what we are all about.
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Post by lew86 on Nov 14, 2008 14:45:57 GMT
th, i think VP has explained perfectly, the lad said he didnt want, "we hate glory hunters". If you'd read it, he's covered that in more than a bold statement
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 14, 2008 14:45:53 GMT
Personally speaking, i have absolutely nothing against United's team. They are, and remain, the standard bearer for Premier league football. At their best, they are utterly compelling to watch and the reason Ivan none of our players would go there is because they only way they'd get on United's payroll is if they were sweeping the stands. Don't begin to think we don't understand the limitations of our playing squad. United at their peak are in equal measure devastating, brilliant & awe inspiring. What sticks in the craw of the supporters of smaller clubs is that Manchester United the business, not the football team. The supporters they garner from up and down the country who feel entitled to pour scorn on your team whilst sitting in a boozer 400 miles cheering on their "boys". The fact that in any given town or city you'll find kids walking round in Utd tops when their team up the road is losing two hundred grand a month and would kill for just the local kids to go to the odd game and support them instead of the team who wins every fucking week and the team they are never actually likely to see play in the flesh. The contempt they displayed by dropping out of the FA Cup to go and mince about in Brazil for the money, the million pound friendlies you play without giving anythig back to the game that gives you the platform to launch this "brand" which you and other supporters attempt to defend. Manchester United would like nothing more than to homogenise the entire footballing landscape, so we're all hanging on every word on MUTV whilst David Gill throws crumbs down from the table for the likes of Bury, Rochdale & Oldham to feed off. Everything about Manchester United the business stinks of shit, and if you think this is sore grapes, you couldn't be more wrong mate. I can't think of anything fucking worse than watching a team that thinks drawing away at Fulham should entitle it's "supporters" to bombard 6-0-6 calling for the managers head, despite his 22 years of unbridled success, and it would appear that it's not just the rest of the country that feels this way. Answer this: If Manchester United is so fucking brilliant, if being a "Red" is the greatest feeling on earth, why did over 7,000 season ticket holders turn their back on the club to start their own club, a venture universally applauded by the rest of the footballing community? It's not just us that hates everything about "your" club mate, it seems even your own fans think it's shit these days as well. Some good points in there mate. I despise the owners of the club, doesnt stop me loving united, but im not gonna go into the polotics. Every club has wanker fans, unfortunately we attract more than anyone. Does it not annoy you with all your plastic fans you've gained this season. Pretty sure i wasnt just imagining the stands of empty seats for the last few years. And suddenly...........................nearly a sell out. Amazing that!! That's true. Fair point. It's definitely not unique to you. It's just that United are perceived as the poster boys of this ridiculously artificial, glory-hunting bandwagon-jumping. Let's face it, Manchester isn't the size of city that should be supporting the biggest sports 'franchise' in the world. A combination of freakish factors have led to the construction of, for good and ill, a commercial and sporting monster devouring everything in its path. And the idea that there can be 'real' fans lurking within the hordes of plastic jumpers-on can sometimes get lost. United have somehow acquired the identity of an otherworldly club operating in a world of their own, and it's hard to take them seriously as a 'proper' (whatever that means) football club.
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Post by Tubes on Nov 14, 2008 14:51:47 GMT
my second team is defined, at any point, to be the team the Shit are playing. So I guess tomorrow Stoke will be my first and second team ;D
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Post by bettyswallocks on Nov 14, 2008 14:51:49 GMT
Man Ure- Brilliant team of world class footballers Man Ure fans- biggest bunch of ***** the land of football has ever come across. Fair enough iv got time for the generation of fans who can sit down and relive the games of yesteryear the fans who as said before knows what its like out of the top division. These plastic normally yellow coloured fans of yours piss me off. Bandwagon, On , Jump, The- make the sentance for thee sen duck
Oh ah and the mancunian accent, really pisses me off sunshiiiiiiiiineeeeee
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Nov 14, 2008 14:53:32 GMT
Thing is with these gloryhunting Man Utd fans is that they just dont understand what it means to get a bit of success, and by that i mean you must have tasted the lows to fully appreciate the highs.
You look at the supporters of say Hull City and what their achievments mean to them. They mean a lot more to them than some prawn sandwich eating muppet sitting there quitely at Old Trafford while his team wins the league for the umpteenth time.
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Post by Spud on Nov 14, 2008 14:53:46 GMT
I live in Manchester and regularly talk to Man united fans yet whenever I talk to them it always comes down to " well were better than you ", for Christ sake I don't give a fcuk and I am now completely intolerant to the bastards.
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Post by smalltime on Nov 14, 2008 14:54:26 GMT
why do we hate man u so much?? why the fuck do you chant argentina to a ugly scar faced prick?? i could understand chanting his name, but why chant his country?? that chant is disgraceful to every englishman! Argentina argentina argentina You can stick yer fuckin england up yer arse
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Nov 14, 2008 14:57:41 GMT
So your a proud Argentinian then eh? Were you around in 1982?
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Post by nickstokefc on Nov 14, 2008 14:59:15 GMT
because i have a uncle and cousins from cross heath,who never miss a game, they go home and away, then i have friends who live in chesterton who go to watch them home and away every week,, because of people like them there local teams are shit,, why the fuck dont they support there local teams ie vale crewe castle town,,
fucking hate glory hunting traveling wankers like them
gggoooaaarrrnnnnn stoke
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Post by Spud on Nov 14, 2008 15:00:16 GMT
why do we hate man u so much?? why the fuck do you chant argentina to a ugly scar faced prick?? i could understand chanting his name, but why chant his country?? that chant is disgraceful to every englishman! Argentina argentina argentina You can stick yer fuckin england up yer arse Fcuk off out of England then you Manc tosser.
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Post by smalltime on Nov 14, 2008 15:01:57 GMT
Argentina argentina argentina You can stick yer fuckin england up yer arse Fcuk off out of England then you Manc tosser. United>england
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Post by Spud on Nov 14, 2008 15:03:27 GMT
United= USA
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Post by n01stokie on Nov 14, 2008 15:03:33 GMT
why are you even on here?
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Post by birly on Nov 14, 2008 15:04:31 GMT
Because Stoke are playing them tomorrow?
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Post by sweetandinnocent on Nov 14, 2008 15:06:42 GMT
because manchester contains the word manc
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Nov 14, 2008 15:08:14 GMT
Fcuk off out of England then you Manc tosser. United>england oi! Cocknose! I asked you 2 questions. At least do the decent thing and answer them. ARE YOU A PROUD ARGENTINIAN? WERE YOU AROUND IN 1982?
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Post by starkiller on Nov 14, 2008 15:13:31 GMT
We don't hate you, we don't really have any regard for you. You're just Stoke tbh. Proper answers please, none of the usual, ' none of your fans come from manc, gloryhunters blah blah' as it won't offend me as believe it or not i am a manc. It just baffles a few of us reds out there! We beat 'United' in the week. You sound like an utter c u n t. And coming on here with the name smalltime, go fuck yourself. If it baffles you, you are clearly as thick as you are arrogant. From a 'City' fan. Stoke, that is.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Nov 14, 2008 15:15:19 GMT
Argentina argentina argentina You can stick yer fuckin england up yer arse
For that reason and that reason only is why I fucking hate Mancs, the fucking scum of the earth. When they chant that stupid original chant of Argentina to chucky I feel like dousing the stretford end in petrol and setting it on fire.
Fuckin yanks... Errr I mean Mancs.
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Post by Spud on Nov 14, 2008 15:19:10 GMT
They hate it when anybody mentions Munich but its OK for them to side with Argentina and say fcuk England, I know it hasn't got the same meaning but it comes across that way.
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