"Losing our identity to immigrants...."

[Kenilworth_Stokies]

Bollocks are we.

A national identity involves a sense of your traditional pass times, music, cuisine, history and language. If we're losing our identity to this tide of immigrants the tabloids keep telling us about then we would be able to demonstrate our traditional identity had in some way been altered over the last 50 to 100 years.

A century ago the English would have shopped in the local butchers or greengrocers, eaten meat and two veg, supped some Dandelion & Burdock or a real ale, listened to others playing folk or hymns and spoken their local dialect of English.

Today we're more likely to drive the SUV down to the out of town shopping centre full of global brands, pick up a KFC or a McDonald's, drunk some Coke or a Budweiser, listen to R&B, Hip-Hop or Rock and say "hi" to a few "buddies" before "hanging out" at the "mall".

If you're worried about losing our national identity, too late. We've willingly thrown it all away for some kind of homogenised North American mediocre dream.

If you think you're likely to go home tonight and be forced to tuck into some halal meat with couscous and listen to some bhangra then you're deluding yourself. Likewise, if you seriously think that "Brussels" is impacting your life in any meaningful way then you've been reading too much Daily Mail.

There's only one cultural impact that's changing our national identity, the USA, and we've bought into it willingly. That's no reflection on the Yanks, fair play to them, but come on, let's drop this ridiculous 'immigrants' shite shall we?

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great post!

[santy]

Americans are immigrants too.

[stokey-pokey pudding and pie]

well americans in america aren't are they?

top post kenilworth!

[santy]

A lot of the movements towards american style culture can be traced back to when they entered the second world war, they came over talking about a great life style and it began to leech its way in.

So the american immigrants and soldiers who came over during these times did begin to influence some subtle changes, but on the other hand, when sharia law is being considered being integrated into our own legal practices and provisions being made for ethnic minorities to not be discriminated against we are losing our identity; afterall, there was a time when the first priority in Britain was keeping the British masses happy and content.

To say it is all down to the americanisation is wrong, but then to blame it all on middle eastern immigrants is equally wrong, its a toxic blend of the two. But I've grown up with the sunday breakfast and some traditional values instilled lol, so all is not lost ;D

[broadwayroundabout]

i have my own views on immigrants but i won't hijack this thread KS cos i think it was a first class post much as i wanted to disagree i can't! seriously good post, btw, did you see the programme with Dave Boarman about travelling across america ?? that sort of sums up what you are saying, the yanks are losing their identity too.

just one question or critism where's the mall in meir ?

you got your post in santy as i was typing mine, good point to mate, wish this was posted on a weekday when i'd have more time to expand on my answer, i'll add my two penneth on monday.

[Dazzlerscfc]

Immigrants..Line the Paki twats up and rifle them.

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love the way broadway wants to wait til work time to do a long post. Is it like holdingin a big poo till after your lunch break?

[thepremierbanksy]

It's not gone far enough in my opinion, not until I can buy crunk juice




Like, things are changing all the time n that like.

[mumf14]

"A century ago we would have shopped at the local butchers or greengrocers,eaten meat and two veg,supped some Dandelion and burdock or real ale,and spoken in their local dialect..."

WELL I STILL PIGGIN DO AND I TAKE EXCEPTION TO PILLOCKS WHO THINK I'M OLD FASHIONED.!!

I STILL DON'T GO TO MY LOCAL MOSQUE...ILDA DOESN'T COVER HER UGLY FACE(ALTHOUGH I WISH SHE WOULD) ...AND I DON'T EAT CURRY'S,OR MACDONALDS AND ALL THAT FOREIGN SHIT.
AND AS FOR DRIVING NY SUV DOWN TO THE LOCAL SUPERMARKET.... YOU MUST BE HAVING A SODDIN LAUGH.!!!!!!I GET THE NUMBER 23 BUS AND BUY MY OATCAKES FRESH...WITH FISH ON A FRIDAY ,AND OATCAKES FOR BREAKFAST EVERY DAY SO YOU CAN ALL PISS OFF.!!!

[thepremierbanksy]

Bet you wash those oatcakes down with crunk juice though eh, mumf.

[mumf14]

CRUNK JUICE..WTF.!!

SOME FCUKKERS ON HERE SHOULD GET A PIGGIN LIFE....AN OLD FASHIONED ONE ...

CARBOLIC SOAP....NUM TOWELS...SECONDS CUPS....PIECES WITH CHEESE...TOAST WITH DRIPPING..UNBLEACHED TRIPE...AND A 5 MILE WALK TO THE VICTORIA GROUND EACH WAY...ENTRY WAS HALF A CROWN...

I WAS THE LAST KID TO WEAR CLOGGS MADE BY RONNIE ROE...I THINK IT WAS 82'..?

[blurtonboy66]

Agree with what santy has to say,
But with the way the economy is going will the eastern europeans who have come here to better themselves look elsewhere?

[mermaidsal]

Just one more person saying top post

mumf, are you honestly saying you don't wear clogs anymore? Spoil all my illusions why don't you?

[OldStokie]

mumf, you forgot the candles when the gas mantle burned out and Hilda forgot to get some from the Co-op. You're slipping. Tch!

There's a lot of truth in what has already been said, but a lot of misconceptions too.

The Yanks have changed our culture enormously but, mostly, it's been for the better. Immigration from Asian countries has had a different affect...not all of it bad. Thank God we've changed our colloquial eating habits from mundane to varied. Sometimes, exquisite: due to them. The downside is that Asian immigration has changed our society from a, mostly, secular one, to one that now has to encompass religion as a way of life. And, we have been made to accept their religion on fear of prosecution. The greatest loss, IMHO, has been the erosion of the freedom of speech. Now, we have to be very careful of what we say and where we say it. There should always be responsibility when we say things, but that was, usually, self-regulated. Now, it's policed.

Can we blame it all on immigration? I think not. Our society has regressed to a point where 'Big Brother' is becoming a reality. That is down to over-government floundering with modern technology. They're frightened of the power it has unleashed. The next step is to hold records of every mobile phone user and each conversation made. That is already being processed. What next? Open our mail? Oh, I forgot, they already have the power to do that.

OS.

[Huddysleftfoot]

Oct 25, 2008 13:59:47 GMT Dazzlerscfc said:

Immigrants..Line the Paki twats up and rifle them.

Global Mod of the new SCFC forum and you post this?


FFS

[chunky]

when I were a lad we used to live in a paper bag in a septic tank, get up at 6 in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work at th' mill, work 14 hours a day week in week out for 6d a week, then got home for Dad to thrash us asleep with his belt....Luxury!!!! You try telling the young 'uns of today that and they'd never believe you!

[powchirper]

You had a paper bag pure luxury, we had blah blah blah.

Very funny, was that the policemans ball or monty python.

[Huddysleftfoot]

Oct 28, 2008 20:43:50 GMT @powchirper said:

You had a paper bag pure luxury, we had blah blah blah.

Very funny, was that the policemans ball or monty python.

'Twas the "four yorkshiremen" sketch, orignally from Monty Python, reprised at the Secret Policeman's Ball.

[chunky]

actually originally it was from The1948 Show