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Post by Thank you from Moorlander1 on Dec 30, 2007 9:46:26 GMT
After listening to TPs interview (twice) apart from the players we already have being signed,do you think he will sign others?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 30, 2007 9:55:28 GMT
I didn't really hear anything to suggest he wouldn't, he just sounded too pissed off about being in Plymouth to talk about it!
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Post by chrispk76 on Dec 30, 2007 9:59:05 GMT
yes 2 others, 1 will be whelan.
pulis has learned there's no point mentioning new signings as they don't always come off.
plus he won't want to damage the spirit and morale withiin the club at the moment.
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Post by LiverpoolStokie on Dec 30, 2007 10:30:35 GMT
Having listened now to TPs interview I think he's more interested in keeping the morale of the team together and giving credit for what they have managed to do over the last few games. For me there was nothing in it about whether or not new signings will arrive for simply for this reason.
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Post by Big Al on Dec 30, 2007 10:35:17 GMT
im not sure he sounded a bit defencive
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 10:40:24 GMT
Both he and Coates have said we'll be looking to strengthen in January - I agree with LS, it's not exactly great for morale if you say "the lads are doing so well that I'll be looking to replace them as soon as possible" is it?
He wants to publicly praise the players who've got us this far - makes sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 10:50:21 GMT
He has already stated that he wants to add to the squad so why be defensive about it. There must be no messing about in Jan as the likes of QPR, Ipswich, Wolves, Watford, WBA, Sheff Utd all have massive budgets so targets must be hit early so they have time to fit in quickly.
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 30, 2007 12:50:02 GMT
think in his interview to be fair he wanted praise the players rather than talk about potential signings which is fine by me they deserve it. as for new signings they will come in, id say 2 maybe 3. coates is a gambling man, he knows the business, in his mind he knows a 5m gamble could be worth 50m in may. have faith.
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Post by Big Al on Dec 30, 2007 13:00:20 GMT
he didnt gamble last season why any different now he only needed to spend about 1m on a striker and we would of been in the playoffs
im not being negative by he way i just think it was rather odd to make comments from meet the manager like ie got 2 players lined up to "lets talk about the lads ive already got"
with statments like that why would the fans who are only thinking of going to the brit against hull G. If he publicly stated yes we might have it could add a couple of thousand to the gate
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 13:06:11 GMT
"Why would he be any different now?"
Because he's learned from his mistakes? Didn't Scholes say something to that effect earlier this season?
It isn't a strange thing to say, it makes perfect sense - privately he'll be looking for players, publicly he'll be reassuring the players who've got us to third in the league.
Say you're Rory Delap, finally performing to a decent standard, where's the incentive to keep that goign if your gaffer is harping on in the media about getting a new midfielder in?
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 30, 2007 13:07:26 GMT
rob spot on!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 13:09:00 GMT
Knew I'd get one right in the end Deano  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 13:16:34 GMT
But he has already mentioned before in interviews he needs to get to Jan with what he has got then add to the squad? Why not answer the question. He avoided the same question during the final stages of the last window after insisting he had players to come in. I just not 100% convinced he has players in place. I hope I am wrong I really do but I just do not understand why he deflected the question ???
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Post by Big Al on Dec 30, 2007 13:22:23 GMT
thats the trouble with pulis he starts to get things going and the crowd behind him then he goes and says something that can be "from past experiences" taken either the wrong way or just make you stop in your tracks and give you cause to be unconvinced
classic TP
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 30, 2007 13:38:22 GMT
I think he's got a shortlist and a long list but it's very rare to hear TP do anything but defend the players he already has, remember the times he's praised Pericard when that seemed not far short of crazy, and we're getting the dividend back in team spirit many times over.
I also reckon we might see two new faces (max), just hope they're as exciting as we think they might be...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 13:43:13 GMT
I understand fair play to him for defending the players, I started a thread further down where I wanted to applaud the players for their efforts during the first half of the season. However I dont see any reason to pass off a genuine question that the fans would rightfully like to hear answered. We know we want players he has insisted that himself we just need to know he as a definite number of players who have been lined up to sign along with the players we know are going to sign permanent that are currently on loan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 13:49:24 GMT
What Pulis says is: a) All the players CURRENTLY at the club are SORTED (Pughy/Corty/Wrighty/Shawy ... and presumably Zak too) - He did not say that we were keeping all of them, just that they were "sorted". b) On NEW PLAYERS he basically said: How would I know, Nige. The good ones get paid thousands of pounds a week and every club wants them ... We'll do what we can, keep your fingers crossed. But aren't the lads we've got doing brilliant! As eeebygum posts - with more sense than is probably allowed on here - on the Plymouth matchday topic ... The aspirations of the club matter almost as much as the money. The most important upcoming game for this show of optimism being the 'Castle Cup tie. A good performance (hopefully a win) in that, played in front of a raucous full-house and shown live on the telly, might influence a couple of the "stars" Pulis has on his A-List (and/or his B List). It won't be the transfer budget, it will be the wages, but - as Smith & Cullerton have hinted over the last couple of weeks - we are ALLEGEDLY offering good "futures contracts" so that may help us to tempt a couple of very good players on shorter term contracts (and/or with low escape clauses). And well done The-Man-of-Mystery if that is the case. Football is a competition in more ways than just the 22 lucky lads who get to run around the pitch on a Satdee. ah |
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 30, 2007 13:51:35 GMT
sidders, on the other hand I don't think TP's exactly well known for giving honest answers to questions he'd rather deflect, is he? ;D And he's got to have a bruised ego from all the missed targets in the last window...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 13:58:19 GMT
AH he must have learned from mistakes made in the pre-season and the last window though? In between that he has managed to get Cort and Pugh who have fit into the team ok so if he is once again chasing Prem players the simple thing is to extract an answer from these players ASAP if its a no go then hit other options as already shown Jan has some tough games and I dont think we can afford to dally around for players who would prefer to sit on the bench so to speak if they dont get offered big wages.
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Post by Big Al on Dec 30, 2007 14:26:48 GMT
i believe that pulis is very aware that he has been given a stay of execution by a lot of fans based on the currant league position and that both he/scholes and coates have admitted they need to strengthen and add to the squad. That opportunity is upon us with the Jan transfer window and therefore a make or break time for himself on a number of points he will only survive if....
1:he doesn't strengthen and the team continue to do ok where a top 6 position is the only realistic position to keep fans happy ultimately keeping his job at stoke for next season
2: he strengthens and gives it his best shot (hopefully gaining promotion) if he fails he has to have a team ready to start next season
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2007 15:12:09 GMT
It depends on your initial point of view:
1. If you believe good players MUST want to come and play for SCFC, then you are right to berate Pulis when they don't
2. If you believe very good players have a lot of choices as to where to go and play (and that we aren't the best payers) then you hope Pulis/Rudge/Coates/Scholes can work some magic and talk a couple of them into it.
ah
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Post by clactonpotter on Dec 30, 2007 16:20:52 GMT
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
As mentioned previously,Mr.Pulis has shown his management/diplomatic skills.
He has a squad of players that he wants to perform to the best of their abilities.
Transfers/loans etc seem only to be the done deal when the ink on the contract is signed and the bloke puts his trousers on the clothes hook as he gets changed.
At the moment our manager is wisely keeping his powder dry.
You don't upset a current player by saying you are bringing in a transfer for his position-especially if the personnel change could fall through!
Rightly he is lavishing praise on the here and now,not tomorrows dreams.
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Post by lordb on Dec 31, 2007 8:51:35 GMT
last summers painful transfer experience must make us all a bit wary of expecting new faces.
however surely we will be getting a couple of decent loans in @ the very least?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 31, 2007 9:11:12 GMT
To answer Moorlander's original question at the top of the thread, which was -
"After listening to TPs interview (twice) apart from the players we already have being signed,do you think he will sign others? "
My answer is YES.
As to who they will be, I don't know, but I would have thought Whelan would be one of the more likely ones. Simply because, as well as the usual rumours, there appears to be a body of opinion at Sheffield Wednesday who thinks he will come here.
EDIT - in response to Andy Har's comment about Zak, as his loan was to the end of the season, I doubt if he will leave as both clubs would need to agree before he could go back to Fulham..
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 31, 2007 10:07:38 GMT
John, I also listened to it twice. How you could come to that conclusion is beyond me.....unless you're a reincarnation of Gypsy Rose Lee.  He told us nothing which is far better than the usual condescending bullshit he comes out with. I was quite pleased he just kept to the subject of his present players. On this occasion, he was right to do so. As to whether he will bring anyone in, I haven't got a clue. I hope he's got players lined up and I hope he doesn't spend the window chasing shadows as he's done in the past. OS. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 31, 2007 10:45:35 GMT
Mick that is a quote from Moorlander's post at the top of the thread. I was responding to Moorlander's question so I thought I'd quote what Moorlander said. Like you I didn't get the impression that we would not sign anyone - which is why I answered "YES"" to the question. To be honest I don't see how my post can be read the way you read it - but everyone is different, I suppose.  |
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Post by MrMagic on Dec 31, 2007 10:50:57 GMT
I've been giving this some thought, and have become a little concerned that our recent excellent form may prove to be our undoing.
The first 11 have been doing excellently, and our league position is something to be proud of. What concerns me though is the possibility that PC / Tony might suddenly think we are good enough with the current set of players.
We do have a first 11 that have proved that they can compete with any other team in our division. When you start comparing our full professional squad with those of our peers, we start to look woefully short, and most teams around us have far more strength in depth than we do. Just look at our bench over the past couple of weeks.
If we get a couple of injuries, and suspensions, with the current squad we'd be left fielding Ant JR, Buxton, Pericard. These players are not good enough to keep the current momentum going.
I think we need a lot more than the one or two additional players being mentioned, to have a real crack at automatic promotion. I don't think we need to bring in lots of top players on high wages, but I do think we need a few squad players who can fill in when needed, and push the first 11 to fight for their places.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Dec 31, 2007 11:01:33 GMT
The interview doesn't give any clues away, but I think we'll sign 2 - 4 players in January to add to the signings of Cort, Pugh and Diao. It's obvious that we need another central midfielder plus a leftwinger. Apart from that, I think TP might wanna add a defender and a striker to the squad.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 31, 2007 14:32:57 GMT
John.... That was the question posed by our semi-senile, eccentric dear Dr. Moorlander. I thought it was a fair question. He didn't ask if we thought Pulis would bring in new players, he asked if we thought he'd bring them in based on that interview to which you replied..."Yes". What you really meant to say was that you thought Pulis would bring in new players but your assumption wasn't based on the interview...wasn't it? In that case, I was quite correct in reading your post as I did. You didn't really think I would let you have the last word...did you? Which reminds me, I need to send in that cheque for Malcolm's cause. See how my mind goes off at a tangent.  M. |
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Post by potters11 on Dec 31, 2007 14:35:29 GMT
It was an interview that TP didn't seem to be in the mood for. Partly for the long trips over Christmas and seeing a goal lead (twice) dropped. He seemed to be saying, we are trying to get new players, but don't hold your breath. However, it could have just been his way of brushing off the question, because he had enough for one day. Either way, he will be doing his best to get the players in, whether it will be good enough, is remained to be seen.
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