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Post by stokecityscott on Dec 27, 2007 3:06:46 GMT
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From The Times December 27, 2007 Stoke keep promotion push on track after controversial finish Barnsley 3 Stoke 3 Liam Lawrence Jason Mellor
When the dust settles – and there was plenty of it with a sending-off, a Stoke City player earning a postmatch lecture from police and another facing censure for making cutthroat gestures at the crowd, not forgetting Liam Lawrence securing a draw with a hat-trick courtesy of an injury-time penalty – this may just turn out to be a decent point for the visiting team.
An eighth match unbeaten for Stoke pushed them up to third in the Coca-Cola Championship after they had shown character in abundance to come from behind three times to earn a share of the spoils as Lawrence, the midfield player, beat Heinz Muller deep into stoppage time after Kayode Odejayi’s tug on Jon Parkin.
Simon Davey, the Barnsley manager, was so upset over the referee’s decision that he refused to speak about it, but his counterpart, Tony Pulis, begged to differ. “The lad’s just about given Parkin his shirt back,” the Stoke manager said.
Barnsley, who retain play-off hopes after extending an unbeaten home run that stretches back to August 25, appeared to have secured the points when Jon Macken, the striker, poked home his second goal of the contest from Odejayi’s knockdown with five minutes remaining.
Coming 60 seconds after Lawrence finished off a brilliantly worked free kick from eight yards to level for a second time, Macken’s third goal in two matches looked like finally ending Stoke’s resistance.
Pulis, though, has fashioned a side that is nothing if not dogged and he said: “It would have been a travesty had we lost, in fact we’re disappointed to score three times and still not win.”
In the immediate aftermath of a breathless finale, Pulis was unable to elaborate on Ryan Shawcross, the defender on loan from Manchester United, having been on the receiving end of a ticking-off from South Yorkshire Police over claims of crowd incitement, nor did he see the provocative gestures made by Fuller towards Barnsley fans in the second half. Both will await the referee’s match report with interest.
“He was was upset with some of their challenges,” Pulis said. “Three of their players were booked and another sent off, all for challenges on him. Ricardo’s got to calm down as well. I didn’t see any gestures, but he’s got that little bit about him and we’ve got to make sure we control that.”
Shortly after Lawrence had seen a dipping free kick hit the bar in the 63rd minute, Macken put Barnsley 2-1 ahead with a header in off the underside of the woodwork after Dennis Souza knocked back Martin Devaney’s corner.
Macken was also involved in the opening goal after 23 minutes, when his burst into the area was halted illegally by Richard Cresswell, a forward giving his counterparts a bad name with an inept piece of defending.
Brian Howard, the Barnsley midfield player, retained admirable composure during the inevitable Stoke protests to send his shot into the opposite corner to the dive of Steve Simonsen, the Stoke goalkeeper.
Lawrence, accepting responsibility after Souza sought to wrestle Fuller to ground just inside the junction of goal-line and area, made the task appear similarly routine, sending Muller the wrong way, as he did at the death.
“It’s a bitter pill to swallow,” Davey said. “I felt we’d deservedly won the game and our dressing-room is pretty silent at present. I’m already in trouble with referees so I don’t want to say any more.”
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Post by Time4aPINT on Dec 27, 2007 3:21:15 GMT
"In the immediate aftermath of a breathless finale, Pulis was unable to elaborate on Ryan Shawcross, the defender on loan from Manchester United, having been on the receiving end of a ticking-off from South Yorkshire Police over claims of crowd incitement"
South Yorkshire Police have always been sore losers....................
only listened to the match on the radio but I get the impression that a draw was at least a fair result
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Post by vientianescfc on Dec 27, 2007 4:09:34 GMT
Tony Pulis, begged to differ. “The lad’s just about given Parkin his shirt back,” the Stoke manager said.
PMSL!!!
Quality comment Tone . . . ;D ;D
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Post by Parksy on Dec 27, 2007 10:20:44 GMT
So typical of South Yorkshire Police, react to gesturing a hostile crowd and yet do nowt over coin throwing at opposition players
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Post by Tony Clueless on Dec 27, 2007 10:26:30 GMT
When I went to Bramall lane many years ago, I was waiting for the special and a police horse bit my head for no apprent reason. You see its not just the yorkshire old bill that are spiteful.
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Post by lordb on Dec 27, 2007 10:37:38 GMT
I think our crowd can be very similair to be honest. Sometimes you cant blame players for reacting to OTT abuse from the crowd. We should remember that.
- how did the Ref spoil the game though? having seen all 3 penalties & the sending off on the TV they all looked 100% correct decisions.
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Post by Tony Clueless on Dec 27, 2007 10:46:51 GMT
The lads and me always give the opposition players loads of flack and they can hear us. We dunner give a toss if they make remarks or gestures back because that means they are not concentrating on there game. the thing what does piss me off is how fans want to report the players giving it the fans back.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2007 11:00:17 GMT
The lads and me always give the opposition players loads of flack and they can hear us. We dunner give a toss if they make remarks or gestures back because that means they are not concentrating on there game. the thing what does piss me off is how fans want to report the players giving it the fans back. You know Mart, you are 100% right. Whining fans drive me bloody mad. If you give it then you have to take it when you get some back.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 27, 2007 11:14:13 GMT
Ill always remember DAVID SPEEDIE YOUR'E A WANKER down at the Vic. Eventually he couldnt take it any more and threw a ball at the crowd and managed to hit a 10 yr old kid.
I think it's an acceptable part of the game trying to wind up the opposition players. But for sure you can understand the players getting wound up a bit and should be allowed to give it back as long as it isnt a Cantona style Kung Fu chop!
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Post by mark71 on Dec 27, 2007 14:11:26 GMT
I remember playing Leeds 89/90 season, I think it was the first game of the season. The boothen end was packed, Vinny Jones was playing for Leeds. seconds before kick off the Boothen in full voice decided to give Vinny a song. it seemed everyone in the Boothen was singing at the top of there voices VINNY JONES YOUR A WANKER, YOUR A WANKER. Vinny turned and walked towards the Boothen he got up to the 18 yard box, stared into the boothen then raised his hands above his head and applauded the Boothen. to which the Boothen then returned the complement. A lesson in how stick should be given, received and acknowledged.
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 27, 2007 14:18:24 GMT
It seems that a football ground is the only place where we, the fans, can say ALMOST anything we like to the players and get away with it. That being the case, we really do have to take any retorts that may find their way back to us. So, no running to mummy (or the Police / FA) if that nasty footballer looks at you "in an unfriendly way". ;D
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Post by myleftboot on Dec 27, 2007 14:20:53 GMT
The ammount of stick the Barnsley keeper got was mad as well yesterday. Chants of "there was one german jippo on the pitch" (raised a smile) amongst other things. Went a little bit far though when blokes started chanting "zeig heil" after every goal kick he took.
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on Dec 27, 2007 15:09:24 GMT
I remember playing Leeds 89/90 season, I think it was the first game of the season. The boothen end was packed, Vinny Jones was playing for Leeds. seconds before kick off the Boothen in full voice decided to give Vinny a song. it seemed everyone in the Boothen was singing at the top of there voices VINNY JONES YOUR A WANKER, YOUR A WANKER. Vinny turned and walked towards the Boothen he got up to the 18 yard box, stared into the boothen then raised his hands above his head and applauded the Boothen. to which the Boothen then returned the complement. A lesson in how stick should be given, received and acknowledged. Denis Wise had the same approach in response to the "taxi" chants at the Brit a few years ago - a Wimbledon thing?
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Post by robin1302 on Dec 27, 2007 15:11:30 GMT
I see the police have a go at Shawcross and Fuller, and yet nothing is done when Lawrence gets hit with coin, which...at worst could have possibly even blinded him, why aren't the police doing something about that!!
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 27, 2007 16:51:30 GMT
The report on Fuller worries me more than Shawcross. Fuller is 28 and has been around. All he should be doing is showing them the pisstake smile. After his antics last year I would be worried he could lose it again, get himself in myther with the officials and let the team down. Then again, it ain't that often you get talent without a dark side, I just hope he can keep it in check.
I remember the Vinny Jones reaction.....it was class.
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Post by n01stokie on Dec 27, 2007 17:59:59 GMT
football is a mans game and should be played by men, so if your man enough to give the stick you've got to be man enough to take it back!!!
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