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Post by n01stokie on Dec 26, 2007 17:41:42 GMT
I can the pros and cons for dropping Sidibe, And i personally think that Sidibe will be dropped after The African Cup of Nations. I think that Sidibe holds the ball up well and creates chances for the team. I think that he won't be dropped untill a good playmaking midfielder AND a winger are signed, whether these are Phillips and Whealan that remains to be seen
Thoughts?
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Post by stokecityscott on Dec 26, 2007 17:42:41 GMT
You aint allowed have views on here, sorry.
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Post by northstokie on Dec 26, 2007 19:19:54 GMT
Sidibe was shite today, he was just not winning headers... The ones he did get to were directed randomly
Delap was also shocking
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 19:25:08 GMT
Said this after the west brom game,he is vvank and today was pathetic,if he aint flicking headers on which are hardly come off anyway then what else do we get,hard work? well im sorry that aint good enough from a SECOND STRIKER that still has NOT SCORED FFS!
Time for a rest and for Simmo because AGAIN he has cost us very important goals which leads to dropped points!
They both need a kick up the arse.
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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 26, 2007 19:30:19 GMT
I thought Mama was great against West Brom, today sounded like a bad day for him though. He's so integral to the TP system that I don't see any way he'll be dropped but like No1 says, I wonder how that's going to look when he gets back from the African Nations, because we'll have to use find Plan B while he's away (which hopefully doesn't mean asking Beast to do what Mama does). If he'd just tipped in four or five goals this would feel so different.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 19:55:45 GMT
yeh....on his fuckin head!!!
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 20:28:32 GMT
mermaid did you watch the same game as me against west brom cus i thought he was toss, sidibe is fast becoming our weak link in the team, i wish someone would tell me what sidibe is actually doing in the team, today he was awful, a shocking performance. how can he justify his place in the starting 11?? 25 games and no goals. pathetic.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 20:38:34 GMT
ditto KD
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Post by 606Stokie on Dec 26, 2007 20:39:56 GMT
If hes not fit then drop him but then atm its why change a team thats not losing...
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 20:50:47 GMT
because he aint offering the team anything, were playing with 10 men because the bloke is that bad, maybe a kick up the ass might change him, i.e start with fatty, or push cressy up front and put pught left wing, either way the bloke has got be dropped, fuller is a diamond but we cant rely just on him we need our other striker nip in with a few goals. 25 games no goals for a striker is simply pathetic.
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Post by n01stokie on Dec 26, 2007 21:05:03 GMT
kingdeano, you obviously have a poor knowledge of football if you cannot see Sidibe role in the team, his sheer presence on the pitch changes the way teams approach the game. when the ball is played long to him often too players mark him thus leaving them out of the game. When he drops deep a defender will follow him thus leaving him out of the game, when sidibe makes a run a defender/defenders will go with him creating a gap for players like Lawrence and Fuller to exploit!! Without him i think we would struggle to create chances thats why i think we need a good creative midfielder and pacy winger!
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 21:10:13 GMT
no1 stokie its now 25 games no goals!!! hes a fookin striker! is job is to score goals! doesnt matter which winger or creative midfierlder you buy he aint going score son! lawrence put 1 right on his head today 6 yards out! the big prick glanced it wide! people like you obviously have a poor knowledge of football, strikers score goals! thats the name of the game! sidibe is a striker!! think about it!
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Post by scfclifer on Dec 26, 2007 21:17:27 GMT
last time he was out the team we lost 3 since he come bak we lost 1 and gne 8 games unbeaten ............all u lot callin 4 his head r wrong he works hard and creates a lot 4 others space wise hes doing a good job so says our league position you moorons
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 21:31:55 GMT
one moron you clown and thats you! he does fuck all, wake up and watch the game! have you been today and watched that cripple try play football??
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Post by scfclifer on Dec 26, 2007 21:41:30 GMT
bet u werent sayin that wen he fed fuller that through ball against west brom fickle twat
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 21:43:29 GMT
one flick doesnt make a player you prick! look at the big picture, 25 games no goals moron prick
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 21:46:12 GMT
People suss Sidibe out because they know he is no threat in the area and his 'Excellent so called Hold up play' is not happening and he easy to play against!
How many headers did he NOT JUMP for today!!! He is a bottler and a striker that does not score goals,so fuck me what is he doing in the team!!!
Cresswell is wasted outwide but upfront with his knack of scoring could just be the difference that gets us promoted,or have we got rely on Fuller or one of the centre halfs ffs!!!
No1 Gimp wake up son will ya!
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Post by StokieSideAss on Dec 26, 2007 21:54:06 GMT
Ive got to agree! I thought he was shit against Watford losing out on every header to O'toole.
Then against WBA he just seemed to plod around, while Lawrence chased every ball down and for a player with as little natural talent as Sidibe has you expect him to work his knackers off and earn his place in the team. But he wasn't even doing that!
Then from what Ive heard today he seems to be getting gradually worse!
As far as I'm concerned, the ANC cant come soon enough!!
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Post by scfclifer on Dec 26, 2007 22:00:54 GMT
25 NO GOALS so y do ya think the manager keeps picking himWOULD IT HAVE SUMMIT DO WITH THE WAY WE PLAY and the fact hes a good player and does what hes suposed 2 well
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 22:03:08 GMT
What does he do well,please tell me?
tigersideswipe SPOT ON!
SIDIBE OUT
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Post by scfclifer on Dec 26, 2007 22:04:07 GMT
we r 3rd because of a team contribution mama is in the team show sum support with out his help we might well be mid table
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Post by scfclifer on Dec 26, 2007 22:06:04 GMT
ulls defenders out of place 4 starters
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 22:06:28 GMT
so what does he do then? run around impersonating a dick? lifer did you watch that performance today? were you happy with it?? are you happy our striker as hit everything bar the net in 25 games! the ballboy shits himself more than opposing goalies!
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Post by n01stokie on Dec 26, 2007 22:06:55 GMT
King Deano i understand your point and as i said earlier there are pros and cons to Sidibe, and my point was that i would only drop sidibe once we have a creative midfielder and winger, then i would push Cresswell upfront i think other wise we would struggle to create chances
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2007 22:12:41 GMT
It's quite difficult to keep making a case for a striker who is still without a goal at the end of December! I admire much of what Mamma brings to the team but it's quite a luxury to have someone occupying one of the two coveted striker's positions when they clearly don'thave a goal in them!
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 22:14:07 GMT
we have demar phillips apparantly playing out his skin, give him a go, hes raw and wants succeed, if fuller reckons hes a matchwinner thats good enough for me. fuller as shown that in this league defenders hate pace, well lets throw him in and see what he does. its a option, and a realistic one at the minute because we have got get our other striker chipping in with goals, even if its 5 its something
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 22:14:53 GMT
You serious?
Until we have a creative midfielder/winger!!!
We have Pugh to slot in down the left with Dicko in at left-back.
Cresswell out of position has scored more than Sidibe will in his career.so to have Sidibe in the team means others score but HE DOES NOT? Ok then what would we miss Sidibe with No goals but making a nuisance and encouraging the longball or Cresswell in place of him getting 10 to 15 goals and easing the pressure off Fuller?!
Think about it!
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Post by jarhead on Dec 26, 2007 22:18:16 GMT
smudge,agree,time for his dropping and a kick up the arse.
It might do him good and Simmo as there places are taken for granted with no pressure from others and that they will be picked no matter how crap they play.
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Post by garyhackett on Dec 26, 2007 22:21:19 GMT
I have been saying for over a year that sidibe should not be in any team who have promotion aspirations, all this nonsense that he does this and that for the team is unfounded. The fact is he cannot score, our defenders cause more threat in the opposition box than he does, ok he wins the odd header but he doesnt actually do anything with it. He is by far the weakest link in the team along with Delap at the moment but thankfully we have Diao to replace Delap and Hendrie to come in on the left alowing Cresswell to finally get a decent run up front.
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Post by kingdeano on Dec 26, 2007 22:24:55 GMT
be careful gary, people dont like hearing their hero be put down! your spot on their tho, not sure bout hendrie tho, do we need his big i am attitude coming into the team?
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