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Post by icelandpotter on Aug 18, 2008 15:55:46 GMT
Its getting to me now that we've not had a proper left winger for ages, and it looks that we'll be playing centre forward Cressie at this position again.
So why not try out Demar Phillips? He's already a Stoke player so he's free; he constantly impresses in the reserves and so far in Oldham's first team; he's got pace; and he knows how to play alongside Fuller.
For those who've seen him play as I have it's most frustrating (for me anyway) that we've got someone at the club who is a round peg in a round hole.
For all those who say he wasn't up to the Championship, well he never really had a go to be honest.
I really don't see why he's not at least worth a go?
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Post by God on Aug 18, 2008 15:57:34 GMT
Tone likes the square peg, round hole scenario.
I wouldn't be suprised to see Davies played as a centre forward and this un-named big name forward we're after slotting in at left back.
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Post by parttimelurker on Aug 18, 2008 18:15:41 GMT
I think he'll play Lawrence on the left, Delap on the right on Sat.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2008 18:18:04 GMT
I wouldnt mind giving Demar a go but if pulis was ever going to give him a chance it would have been last season i just cant see him suddenly changing his mind.
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Aug 18, 2008 18:27:28 GMT
Why oh why is everybody obsessed with us having a left winger?
Wingers are or at least were in the old days forwards (Sir Stan, Burrows, Chambo)
Not many sides play with wingers any more
We only play TWO up front (Kitson/Fuller/Sidibe)
The four across the middle have to do the job of attacking and defending, so they are not out and out wingers
I know what you are saying, but Cresswells job is not as an out and out winger.
I agree that when we are in possession and going forward, we need Lenny and whoever plays on the left to get to the bye line and get in decent crosses for the forwards, but they are essentially midfield players and NOT wingers
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2008 18:32:02 GMT
Why oh why is everybody obsessed with us having a left winger?
Wingers are or at least were in the old days forwards (Sir Stan, Burrows, Chambo)
Not many sides play with wingers any more
We only play TWO up front (Kitson/Fuller/Sidibe)
The four across the middle have to do the job of attacking and defending, so they are not out and out wingers
I know what you are saying, but Cresswells job is not as an out and out winger.
I agree that when we are in possession and going forward, we need Lenny and whoever plays on the left to get to the bye line and get in decent crosses for the forwards, but they are essentially midfield players and NOT wingers Which is ok if You have Joe Cole, we have Richard bloody Cresswell. We need a winger with pace out there imo. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2008 18:35:03 GMT
im not sure that they are obsessed whith geting in a winger just anyone would do that is capable of playing on the left and has enough qulity, lawrance isnt a right winger but he does whats needed on that side another left footed version of him would be shit hot.
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Post by MrMagic on Aug 18, 2008 18:42:16 GMT
Why oh why is everybody obsessed with us having a left winger?
Did you notice what happened on Saturday when we finally got a player with a left leg on the left hand side of the pitch? Cross in from deep - header - goal. If we are going to win games, we are going to have to attack. Lawrence is not a natural wing player, but does a good job out on the right. Cresswell rarely manages to cross the ball, preferring to cut in. pace and balance would see us improve vastly. I think the strikers we have would score enough if they had better service. |
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Post by parttimelurker on Aug 18, 2008 18:46:04 GMT
We need a winger with pace out there imo. So why do you want us to sign Sorin?  |
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Post by n01stokie on Aug 18, 2008 18:49:19 GMT
not this again!!! HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH end of disscussion. move on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2008 18:49:21 GMT
We need a winger with pace out there imo. So why do you want us to sign Sorin? To play left back. |
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Post by parttimelurker on Aug 18, 2008 18:52:32 GMT
So why do you want us to sign Sorin? To play left back. We'd be torn apart. Not defensive enough for us, we'd have to play him in a more attacking role. |
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Post by shooters on Aug 18, 2008 18:53:58 GMT
For us its Left Midfield i think we need ! If we are talking about ryan giggs, babel, ronaldo , joe cole, then we are looking at wingers.
In the short term I think Griffin should go left midfield with Dicko behind ! There I 've said it - Griffin is given some support ! Cresswell should make way.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2008 18:54:22 GMT
Nah we don't want none of these quality players at Stoke!  |
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Post by icelandpotter on Aug 18, 2008 19:17:53 GMT
not this again!!! HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH end of disscussion. move on oh im sorry for having an opinion thats different than you i'll stop immediately just as you say. seriously though have you seen him play? I think he could really do a job in our team in the Prem. |
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Post by icelandpotter on Aug 18, 2008 19:19:39 GMT
Why oh why is everybody obsessed with us having a left winger?
Wingers are or at least were in the old days forwards (Sir Stan, Burrows, Chambo)
Not many sides play with wingers any more
We only play TWO up front (Kitson/Fuller/Sidibe)
The four across the middle have to do the job of attacking and defending, so they are not out and out wingers
I know what you are saying, but Cresswells job is not as an out and out winger.
I agree that when we are in possession and going forward, we need Lenny and whoever plays on the left to get to the bye line and get in decent crosses for the forwards, but they are essentially midfield players and NOT wingers What about C Ronaldo, Peter Hoekstra, Aaron Lennon? A decent quick winger would add excitement, width and another avenue of attack for us. |
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 18, 2008 19:25:03 GMT
It's no surprise that on Saturday Bolton withstood most of what we threw at them for 90 mins apart from when we got it on the ground and used a wide man. To be fair the approach play, and Dickinson's cross, were really good and a sign of what we can be capable of.
With good service from both sides, Kitson and Fuller will get goals, no doubt. We just don't have the balance at the moment, if we had a quick left sided player (i.e. Scott Sinclair) we could still be quite direct (ball up to Kitson) but then lay off to overlapping wide players who can get the ball in the box. At the moment we're getting the ball forward but have nowhere to go because we're stood still with our backs to goal. With no wide players the only way the ball can go is backwards again.
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Post by Cityfullergoals on Aug 18, 2008 22:03:05 GMT
Why oh why is everybody obsessed with us having a left winger?
Wingers are or at least were in the old days forwards (Sir Stan, Burrows, Chambo)
Not many sides play with wingers any more
We only play TWO up front (Kitson/Fuller/Sidibe)
The four across the middle have to do the job of attacking and defending, so they are not out and out wingers
I know what you are saying, but Cresswells job is not as an out and out winger.
I agree that when we are in possession and going forward, we need Lenny and whoever plays on the left to get to the bye line and get in decent crosses for the forwards, but they are essentially midfield players and NOT wingers What about C Ronaldo, Peter Hoekstra, Aaron Lennon? A decent quick winger would add excitement, width and another avenue of attack for us.
Trouble is, virtually every side these days plays 4-4-2, or 4-5-1
To have an out and out winger, you would have to play 4-3-3 and it just wont happen
Shaun Wright Phillips is as exciting as anyone, but he tracks back and is classed as a midfield player as is the aforemention little Portugese cheat (35 goals from midfield ???)
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Post by icelandpotter on Aug 18, 2008 22:16:41 GMT
I see your point cityfullergoals, but I reckon you could have 4-4-2 and have two wingers, with the central two being the engine of the team, always making themselves available for a ball from defence (the defence have far fewer seconds to get rid in this league than lower ones) while at the same time being able to supply the wingers or forwards.
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Post by Hammo on Aug 18, 2008 22:22:39 GMT
Jimmy Phillips:D
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 18, 2008 22:25:31 GMT
What we need and would fit into the team like a hand into a glove is... Stephen Hunt
he's available
similar wages to Kitson and probably a million less on fee
go get him Tone
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Post by eatthebeast on Aug 18, 2008 22:41:31 GMT
How about 2 Million Plus Mama for Paul Parry?
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