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Post by potters 22 on Dec 16, 2007 16:39:52 GMT
People like llfordDave cant swallow there pride and accept pulis is doing a great job,pulis hater always will be! SAD!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2007 16:41:06 GMT
I agree Dave, it was a silly thing of him to say and he dug himself a hole with it.
To still bear a grudge over that throwaway comment two seasons ago, when the team is winning and looking like genuine contenders for the first time in aeons, however, smacks vaguely of nit-picking.
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Post by daverichards on Dec 16, 2007 16:42:24 GMT
,pulis hater always will be! SAD! wrong again , I'll give you 3 guess' what would make me very happy (APART FROM STOKE WINNING EVERY GAME) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 16, 2007 16:43:07 GMT
So how can we take serious all Pulis's critics who each season come out with statements such as mid table at the best or a relegation battle . On that basis its no wonder i do not take a blind bit of notice about the opinions of you, HG,Sfance, BBM, Eton Rifle ,RAF and the rest of them
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2007 16:45:58 GMT
If you ever had any credibillty when talking about fooball which I don't think you did, you certainly have none after that ridiculous statement. Exactly what match were you watching? Trousers it isn't about cutting your nose off, it's about sticking to your principles. Some on here don't seem to believe people have them, regardless of whether you think it is right or wrong. H RAF, If you don't mind me interjecting mate, I'm gonna disagree with you. Down the years I've seen too many Stoke fans talk themselves into a corner and it always saddens me. Nothing is final and nobody should ever be too proud (or pig-headed) to take a gulp and forget about what they vowed to do. What kind of principles are they that hurt you more than anyone else? We're talking football here, not ending apartheid. Just my £0.02 worth! |
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Post by daverichards on Dec 16, 2007 16:47:52 GMT
robvandeurzen83: plenty of other things I dislike him for, the binary run for a start , going to gillingham in the pissing rain in an open end, and getting dicked by a nothing team like them , his patronising post match interviews, signing his son, coming back , being a liar (as ruled by a judge)
.... I could go on, but hey we are 4th, I'll let it wash for the moment, maybe he can do OK for us and get us where we want to be, I hope he can, as it would soften the agony of having such a man manage the club i love
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2007 16:53:50 GMT
I don't agree with a lot of things he does either Dave - the binary stuff, the Hoefkens saga, the blatant lies, all leave a bad taste.
However, I think at the moment he's doing well and deserves credit - when we're not doing well, then he'll deserve his share of the blame as well.
Regarding the specific things you mention:
- Is he the only Stoke manager to get dicked by a nothing team?
- Is he the only Stoke manager to sign his son?
- You blame him for coming back; he didn't appoint himself did he?
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 16, 2007 16:53:56 GMT
Ilford Dave you sound like one hell of a bitter person
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2007 17:05:58 GMT
What kind of principles are they that hurt you more than anyone else? Just my £0.02 worth! The only kind? ah (just mine ...) ;0) |
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Post by potters 22 on Dec 16, 2007 17:06:22 GMT
the only thing you love llford is yourself!
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2007 17:39:29 GMT
What kind of principles are they that hurt you more than anyone else? Just my £0.02 worth! The only kind? ah (just mine ...) ;0) You are right of course but I notice you added some gravitas to your post by deftly removing the "Apartheid" line that followed, in my original statement. When I'm trying to score points I find it's always best to remove any pesky things like that which add context.  For a game of football and the team I have loved all my life, and will follow until the day I depart this mortal coil, I'll suck the mop from time to time, swallow any silly feelings of taking a principled stand (when all I'd actually be doing is biting off my own nose to spite my face) because my favourite player got sold and continue doing something I actually enjoy doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2007 17:45:16 GMT
Fair enough ... Nothing is final and nobody should ever be too proud (or pig-headed) to take a gulp and forget about what they vowed to do. What kind of principles are they that hurt you more than anyone else? We're talking football here, not ending apartheid. Just my £0.02 worth! If the only "principles" you are prepared to stick to, are those that you know will never be challenged. Then you may as well not hold them as principles. A principle is only a principle if you stick by it, once it is tested. Otherwise is was just something you said/typed. (I thought I was being nice, by leaving the persecution of the blixs out of it, but suit yourself ...) ah |
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Post by Admin on Dec 16, 2007 18:01:12 GMT
Fair enough ... Nothing is final and nobody should ever be too proud (or pig-headed) to take a gulp and forget about what they vowed to do. What kind of principles are they that hurt you more than anyone else? We're talking football here, not ending apartheid. Just my £0.02 worth! If the only "principles" you are prepared to stick to, are those that you know will never be challenged. Then you may as well not hold them as principles. A principle is only a principle if you stick by it, once it is tested. Otherwise is was just something you said/typed. (I thought I was being nice, by leaving the persecution of the blixs out of it, but suit yourself ...) ah Andy, It depends on whether we're really talking about principles or a stupid vow/pledge/promise that was made in haste and sees someone paint themselves into a corner, in which they are trapped only by their foolish pride and not any genuinely principled stand. But fair enough, if we're talking sincere principles then you should always stick to them if you think it's worth the price. It's just that I strongly suspect that in most football related instances it's the former and not the latter we're actually talking about. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2007 18:08:58 GMT
I like being fickle it allows me the option to hate the team, manager, chairman, ground pies beer or anything else one week then love em to death the next its ace some more people should try it p.s I think I have just managed to shake me hangover. ;D |
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Post by RAF on Dec 16, 2007 18:56:37 GMT
I ws talking to Trouserdog , not you, and if you know my stance on Pulis you know what my principles are regarding this subject.
I'll tell you what is indicative of the blind Pulis rimmers , and it has been proven on here.
Someone makes a comment about TP or a player that they don't like then they go to town on the thread, but if the same person makes a positive comment, it gets forgotten, because it doesn't suit their pathetic agenda.
Just take a look at the 2 Fuller threads I have started.
One from last week when i thought he was poor and this week when I thought he played well.
The one where I say he played poorly gets bandwangoned , but the one where I praise him doesn't warrant one agreement from the rimmers, why is that?
And as for you Smudge, I don't think my principles hurt me more than anyone else, but I'll tell you this much, if I say something that I mean, then I stick by it, and I refuse to let you or anyone else trivialise my principles by suggesting that I'm being pig-headed and petty.
If you are prepared to have your principles questioned then fair enough, but if someone suggests that I'll compromise mine on the off chance of seeing Stoke play a premiership side in the cup , then I'll fucking well defend my stance ok?
The fact that not going to home games also suits my home life aswell is another story.
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Post by bogus on Dec 16, 2007 19:10:57 GMT
I like being fickle it allows me the option to hate the team, manager, chairman, ground pies beer or anything else one week then love em to death the next its ace some more people should try it p.s I think I have just managed to shake me hangover. ;D Amen to that, sidders. The way it is and the way it always has been. Celebrate the highs to the full, vent your spleen and let out your frustrations at the lows. |
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Post by stokieg on Dec 16, 2007 19:11:30 GMT
I am reserving my judgment for the january transfer window
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Post by The man from Utch on Dec 16, 2007 19:21:02 GMT
RAF You sound like someone who as been rattled .Reading your posts i would say you are a man full of yourself not a man of principle .
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Dec 16, 2007 19:38:13 GMT
People like llfordDave cant swallow there pride and accept pulis is doing a great job,pulis hater always will be! SAD! The thing is Potters22 if Dave had come out and said he loves Pulis now etc....You'd still rip and try to take the piss!!! FFS!!! Im not a fan of Pulis but like i put on another post credit where its due to him and the team. As with the old rivals site, it seems like everytime you post, your just out for a bloody arguement and to stir up shit! Give it a break for fucks sake!!! We're doing great at the moment ( but footballs a funny game!) so lets all just enjoy it. Happy Days!!! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2007 8:05:20 GMT
"Today's villain has to have the chance to become tomorrow's hero".
I like that quote.
As for Pulis, I can't abide his brand of football (generally speaking) but if we continue to try and play football like we did on Saturday (in defeat or victory) then I would be a happy Stokie.
Playing the way we did will always see us win more than we lose and it was a delight to watch.
Excellent Stoke.
I didn't think it possible that this team could keep on winning and keep us up there. Our annual home win v the Baggies would be nice, and should ensure that we are well placed going into January.
Spend the warchest wisely, and this time next year, we could still be looking for our first win in the Premiershit! ;D
For now, I will continue to be cynical towards our gaffer, yet hope sincerely that we can keep bludgeoning our way forward, whilst being there to support the team both home and away!
Go on Stoke!
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Post by mcf on Dec 17, 2007 8:08:17 GMT
'I can't abide his football (generally speaking)'
Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Keep it though Dave, I thrive on this sort of material.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 17, 2007 8:37:37 GMT
Glad to be of service MCF.
I love our manager...he is a great bloke doing a fantastic job.
Actually, the one thing that I do like about Pulis is that he does "APPEAR" to have a real love of our club. I don't know if this is genuine, but it does seem to be.
That is a feather in his cap...I now want him to keep the team playing as it has been these past 4 games, and I might even start enjoying home games again!
Saturday was a real joy, and having attended the game on my own, I can honestly say that it is the first time for a long while that I have enjoyed the day solely for the game itself.
Usually the craic with the lads makes the day, but for me, going solo, Saturday was all about the game, and it was great!
Roll on the Baggies where I would be thorougly enjoy battering them into submission in the ugliest way possible...only against them though.
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 17, 2007 8:54:48 GMT
It seems some people have trouble accepting that there are people in this world who love our club, love the fact that we are doing very well in the league, but still have an intense dislike for our manager as a person and the methods he has chosen to employ as manager of our football club over the majority of his reign.
I was speaking to a Pompey-supporting mate (so not best disposed towards TP in any event) who watched the Watford game who said he felt sorry for me having to suffer my team playing that shockingly awful brand of football and he could well understand the animosity towards our manager despite our results. I have to acknowledge that a neutral fan probably would most likely have turned that game over after 5/10 minutes. I wouldn't have blamed them.
If it is not Fuller, and occasionally Lawrence, on the ball, we are not pretty to watch. Effective, as Grayson conceded on Saturday, yes, but we play far too much of Durban's anti-circus-going football on the whole.
It is sometimes hard to reconcile my love for Stoke City FC and dislike for our style of play - the former, after a bit of a struggle, wins all the time, as it should of course, but it is the results I enjoy far more than the performances.
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Post by mcf on Dec 17, 2007 10:08:46 GMT
Its just a shame you can't see me now Jezza
My feet are wet from the floods of tears and my heart is breaking for your predicament.
Boo fcuking hoo
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 17, 2007 10:27:22 GMT
Nice to know you care, Mr Finney  . J |
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Post by mcf on Dec 17, 2007 10:48:48 GMT
Jezza, where is Uncs?
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Post by jezzascfc on Dec 17, 2007 11:23:50 GMT
Think he must not have got to grips with coming over to the new board (you know how these old folk have trouble with technology!). I'll drop him an e-mail. He's away over Christmas as well (poncy skiing holiday no doubt), as he can't make the annual trip down to Plymuff (or up in my case). I'll be there (just bought tickets this minute), with my old fella in tow. Next trip over for me after that will be Wolves (away) and Southampton (home) in Feb. Maybe see you then. I'll be the one looking depressed as we stick 4 past Wanky Wanderers!!!  |
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Post by wiggey on Dec 17, 2007 11:29:44 GMT
Why dont you all just grow the fuck up?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Dec 17, 2007 12:12:15 GMT
Fickle is those who'll come crawling back after years of non attendance for the Newcastle game or for as long as Stoke look like making a fist of it at the top of the divison.
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