Too much swearing at the game yesterday!

[panini2001]

Went Blackpool yesterday and personally was disgusted at all the language coming from the mouths of the young chavlets. As a veteran of 30 years following Stoke on those early train journeys and 'special' coaches from Weston Coyney I hope to god I didnt act like these knobs. Dont mind swearing amongst the lads at the right times but I had my 11 year old daughter with me and these people show no respect in front of women or children. I now sit in the family stand at the Brit and the bile is cut down to a minimum.

Maybe its me getting on a bit but yesterday suddenly brought it all home to me why I dont go many away games anymore with the kids.

[Fred Astaire]

'Special' you say?

And yes, the swearing seems to be a sad enditement of todays society. At least it does seem to be worse than "when i were a lad"

[njkk]

I swear as much as the next bloke, but I do tend not to let it slip around women and kids, I wonder if these lads eff and blind in front of their mums, I know I wouldn't dare she'd still give me a good slapping if she heard me come out with it

[y_oh_y_delilah]

Ah, a return to the 'old values', but I'm afraid it will never happen. Swearing seems now so ingrained as part of the culture, I dare say most of the low-lifes that resort to it, simply don't know the difference.

Believe me, the 'problem' is nothing like as bad abroad and unfortunately it's a sad reflection of certain elements of youthful British society.

[terrorofturfmoor]

I was walking down to a game at the Brit last season and could hear some bloke (roughly in his mid 30's to 40) in front of me nattering on, and he was spouting out "effing this and effing that", at first I thought nothing of it, thinking he was probably with his mate, but on hearing his "effing" triad still continuing I noticed he wasn't with his mate at all, he was actually with a kid (no doubt his Son) who looked no older than 7/8 years old!!!

I felt sorry for the lad, what chance have they got for their future when such language becomes the norm' with them!!!

[stokiematt]

i only sware at stoke if somthing pushes me towards it e.g. the reff

home ill get my head kicked in.

[daverichards]

If you don't want your kids to hear swearing, buy them ear plugs , sorry but in today's PC gome mad _TM world , I expect to be able to use expletives at a bloody football game, its bad enough I can't even smoke at the footy anymore

[myleftboot]

There used to be a bald bloke with glasses at the beginning of last season who sat in the JS Upper on the left hand said (he used to change seats per game so don't think he had a season ticket), a legendary swearer that tought me one or two things at my age. This particular bloke thought Gerry was still playing for us one afternoon. How we laughed.

Edit: Every time the opposition used to score he used to sit there going on about how we had lost this now and he wasn't coming next week. This was wether we were in front or not. It became entertaining and kinda miss the old bloke.

[trebor63]

I can't agree at all!

I haven't got kids so don't look at it from that perspective but football for me is still albeit only just the environment for young working class lads and swearing is part and parcel imo.

At the match so far as I'm concerned its the one time a week I can let off steam whether that be at our players their players the ref or the other supporters.

Parents that take kids into pubs and expect everyone on a night out to alter their behaviour to accomadate their kids is wrong and tom be honest the same applies at football.

I'm not a fan of effing and bklinding just for the sake of effing and blinding but I would NEVER be offended if my girlfriend was with me as she would have been told well in advance that my language (and that of others) could be very colourful. They can like it or lump it but that'd be the deal!!

[panini2001]

trebor, like you say, you haven't got kids so you dont understand.

Maybe you will realise one day. I'm not daft enough to know that swearing wont go on but it was the constant, every 10 seconds or so effing blatantly infront of kids.

[daverichards]

my god me n trebor agree on somethink !!!!!!!!

[keels over with shock] .... ;D

[trebor63]

LOL at ID

It is strange! Maybe you'll start worshipping Maggie the great soon?

PS Looking at the vid of the woman I think we've got the same taste in woman!!!

[daverichards]

panini2001 : i don't have any kids, but i do have a younger brother and sister, much younger, i took them to their first stoke games when they were 6, both in the old boothen end , and both were told that some words they would hear were not to be repeated outside of a football ground .... they were fine with that, i didn't hear them use those words outside a football ground till a few years later when they started hearing them in the play ground at school

[PotterLog]

no1stokefan said:

Ah, a return to the 'old values', but I'm afraid it will never happen. Swearing seems now so ingrained as part of the culture, I dare say most of the low-lifes that resort to it, simply don't know the difference.

Believe me, the 'problem' is nothing like as bad abroad and unfortunately it's a sad reflection of certain elements of youthful British society.

And how many languages have you studied this in y_o_y?

[boothenendboy]

bloody mardarse.

[yorkpotter]

Can't comment on the swearing but me and my brothers remember the speacial from weston coyney. All part of the magic match day experience

[visunitafortior]

your getting some negative karma for that. a football ground is not a theatre.

fuck shit bollocks

[panini2001]

you're clever youth

[stokieboy1]

im sorry panini but your totally wrong.
At football matches,when i go i dont think to myself i hope theres going to be no swearing.At a football match its natural.If you dont want to let your daughter hear bad words dont take her:simple as.
effing this and effing that is a bit over the top but thats why you go in the family stand-no atmosphere,no singing,no chanting,no swearing, no nothing!

[panini2001]

You miss the point. I have been going Stoke a lot longer than you probably and know exactly what to expect at footie games. I am referring to the effing and jeffing at yesterdays game every few seconds in front of women and kids. Is this behaviour right?

Of course there is swearing and will be at every game, the thing is these young Stone Islanders were way over the top displaying no respect with a constant barrage.

Even in my more laddish days there was no way I would spew the bile infront of kids or women.

[stokieg]

Was there bollox ???

[stokieboy1]

panini... i understand what your saying aswell,but like i say dont like the swearing,dont come.the behavior isnt right but youre going to have to put up with it and theres nothing we can do about it

[DansViews]

Women and kids shouldnt be allowed end of.. Swearing is part and parcel of the game.. Cant smoke it grounds, cant have a beer in the stand.. cant swear.. What next? Football is dying on its arse because they are kicking the heart and sould out of it!

[Northy]

I've heard some rubbish lately and to say swearing is part and parcel of watching the game and women and children shouldn't be allowed is absolute rubbish; for a hundred years people used to go to the game with their wives, girlfriends and children, mix happily with the opposition fans on the terraces and anybody who swore had the wrath of everybody around them to deal with, it's only the self obsessed unsociable society that this country is turning into think it's the norm !
Respect for others please
where are the next generation of supporters coming from if you all say don't bring your children along? if dads can't take their children then they will stop going, hence 12,000 gates
Engage brain before mouth please

[algor]

boothenendbrit said:

Women and kids shouldnt be allowed end of.

WTF? Do you think that football is just for 16 to 35 year old men without a family? Do you own Stoke? How the hell would the club have a future if people didn't take their children, where would the next generation of stoke fans come from?

[Thank you from Moorlander1]

daverichards said:

If you don't want your kids to hear swearing, buy them ear plugs , sorry but in today's PC gome mad _TM world , I expect to be able to use expletives at a bloody football game, its bad enough I can't even smoke at the footy anymore

You would would,nt you Ilfred but then you are unstable and with a family. Swear near my grandaughters who do go occasionally to the match,and I will give you a slap and I mean slap.

[cousindupree]

There has always been swearing at football matches..its a working mans sport. The sad fact about todays british society now is that swearing is acceptable everywhere...and sadly on this board too. I have never really understood the appeal of using expletives in normal conversational language when the english language has so many alternative words to express ourselves.
Bad language used to be shocking...now its a lazy and really pointless way of speaking and the f word is now just another word. Its about time that the swearers came up with a new and shocking word for todays modern society....

[RipRoaringPotter]

Unless your kids are under the age of six they'll probabley already be familiar with all the words they heard yesterday.

[Deleted]

Good post Northwich.

You only have to take a look at the ones that cant say a four word sentance without having 3 expletives in it to see the background they've come from.

Its all about respect for others, or lack of!

[Jamo on the wing]

I didn't think there was any more or any less swearing at the game to be honest. It may be true that away from home the bulk of the support is of the hard-core full blooded variety but then I don't expect anything else.
In all honesty I lost the plot a couple of times with that tubby linesman and a couple of the over zealous stewards but I don't see it as any indication of peoples backgound.
Lots of people get paid to be civil all week and football is a release mechanism for them to get most of the expletives out that have been simmering away during their 40+ hours at work.
I don't think anyone can ever say "if you don't like it don't go" because that's plain daft but I think it's fair to say "If you do go, please don't be surprised at what you are hearing or indeed be offended by it"