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Post by Gods on Nov 22, 2024 23:41:44 GMT
Luton got relegated as soon as they got rid of theirs. Which says something. I have a square of Luton's plastic pitch which still serves as a door mat in the passage outside the kitchen door. It is hard wearing, I'll give it that! |
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 23, 2024 2:37:59 GMT
The away support that day was out of this world. Happy memories You've fucked this right up. |
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Post by citynickscfc on Nov 23, 2024 7:06:28 GMT
Vale park. They put so much shit on it every other week they needed a combine harvester to cut it. Is it only me who is really bored with this supposed rivalry? I would rather they have great facilities and the area have 2 half decent teams. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by pavel on Nov 23, 2024 9:02:59 GMT
Didn’t we lose 6-0 at QPR on their plastic pitch mid ‘80’s? I’m pretty sure I was there and pretty sure it was 6-0. Excruciating experience sat in the home end with 2 friends who were QPR season ticket holders. Embarrassing wasn’t the word I would use to describe our performance that day. Only highlight was the Fullers ESB before and after the match! |
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 23, 2024 9:25:48 GMT
When Ball was in charge we played a pre season friendly at Oldham on the plastic pitch. He gave a substitute debut to “play me or sell me Tony Kelly. He was completely unable to get to the pace of the pitch or able to control the ball. He was that bad that he took him back off after only a few minutes!
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Post by RWChris on Nov 23, 2024 9:55:50 GMT
Wasn't our game at FC Thun in the Europa League on a plastic pitch?
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Post by Gods on Nov 23, 2024 10:05:09 GMT
Didn’t we lose 6-0 at QPR on their plastic pitch mid ‘80’s? I’m pretty sure I was there and pretty sure it was 6-0. Excruciating experience sat in the home end with 2 friends who were QPR season ticket holders. Embarrassing wasn’t the word I would use to describe our performance that day. Only highlight was the Fullers ESB before and after the match! I was there too, best pal at Uny was a QPR fan. It was the season we just survived in the top flight as Richie Barker handed the reigns to Bill Asprey. 17 January 1984 Gregory, Charles and Stewart all beat Fox from 20 yards. Stainrod scored an unmarked header. Dyson had a header ruled out for us for pushing. |
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Post by logdog on Nov 23, 2024 10:17:03 GMT
To be fair, the 4G stuff they play on these days is light years ahead of the plastic pitches back then. It literally was like having a kick about on your front room carpet.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 23, 2024 10:24:54 GMT
To be fair, the 4G stuff they play on these days is light years ahead of the plastic pitches back then. It literally was like having a kick about on your front room carpet. I asked a copper at Oldham if I could walk along the touch line behind the goal. He surprisingly consented, and it was like walking on a springy, bouncy rice pudding skin. It just felt unnatural. The link I posted earlier has some interesting comments about how these pitches aided QPR, Luton, Oldham and Preston above and beyond normal turf pitches. |
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Post by brighton1982 on Nov 23, 2024 10:36:21 GMT
We played on plastic at Oldham in 1990 relegation season. George and Noel really struggled to turn!
For a non-Stoke game, I saw one of the earliest games at QPR in 1982, and the bounce was ridiculous. Every long ball into the box caused chaos. They soon started sanding them to reduce the bounce.
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Post by idle on Nov 23, 2024 10:38:43 GMT
Yeh that’s a fair point. I remember a lot of players wore tracksuit bottoms. Is that the case in Norway Rob? No, I don't think so, but they don't tackle any more! The reason why is that astro turf surfaces rarely are watered enough before young kids play so if they tackle they will get hurt because of the friction. Because of this we have stopped creating enough top central defenders like Ronny Johnsen and Henning Berg in my opinion. Now we only have central defenders like Østigård, and as you all know he isn't much of a footballer!  TBF he's the only one who does slides tackles though (plus Thorsby, but he's a midfielder)! All the big clubs have hybrid grass/plastic pitches now, see Old Trafford who uses Desso GrassMaster. Really cheezy name IMO. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 23, 2024 10:42:48 GMT
To be fair, the 4G stuff they play on these days is light years ahead of the plastic pitches back then. It literally was like having a kick about on your front room carpet. I asked a copper at Oldham if I could walk along the touch line behind the goal. He surprisingly consented, and it was like walking on a springy, bouncy rice pudding skin. It just felt unnatural. The link I posted earlier has some interesting comments about how these pitches aided QPR, Luton, Oldham and Preston above and beyond normal turf pitches. They definitely gave them an advantage as they trained on the pitch. Without looking I’m sure QPR and Luton had really good home records not sure about the other 2. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 23, 2024 10:45:09 GMT
We played on plastic at Oldham in 1990 relegation season. George and Noel really struggled to turn! For a non-Stoke game, I saw one of the earliest games at QPR in 1982, and the bounce was ridiculous. Every long ball into the box caused chaos. They soon started sanding them to reduce the bounce. Yes I remember the bounce it was so false and yeh it caused chaos |
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 23, 2024 11:47:02 GMT
No, I don't think so, but they don't tackle any more! The reason why is that astro turf surfaces rarely are watered enough before young kids play so if they tackle they will get hurt because of the friction. Because of this we have stopped creating enough top central defenders like Ronny Johnsen and Henning Berg in my opinion. Now we only have central defenders like Østigård, and as you all know he isn't much of a footballer! TBF he's the only one who does slides tackles though (plus Thorsby, but he's a midfielder)! All the big clubs have hybrid grass/plastic pitches now, see Old Trafford who uses Desso GrassMaster. Really cheezy name IMO. That's right, but he isn't very good at that either. His best part is duels in the air, but also here he struggles when he meets the right players. His biggest problem though is that he struggles so much on the ground when put under any kind of pressure. I honestly think the national manager should look elsewhere when he is trying to shore up the Norwegian defence.  |
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Post by Stoke711 on Nov 23, 2024 11:55:08 GMT
Played on Oldhams as a kid. Always remember the bounce of the balls was just insane. |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 23, 2024 12:00:17 GMT
Think we only once on plastic,at PNE? I thought I saw us play against Oldham on a plastic pitch. Shredded knees for us, them bouncing the ball into ground. Utterly farcical that it was allowed. |
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Post by tpholloway1 on Nov 23, 2024 12:07:37 GMT
Played on Oldhams as a kid. Always remember the bounce of the balls was just insane. Didn't they used to have piles of sand/sawdust to rest the ball on when taking goal kicks as it tended to be a bit windy at Oldham? |
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Post by Picasso on Nov 23, 2024 12:19:08 GMT
With so many plastic fans about, you’d have thought more of the ‘top’ clubs would have gone down this route.
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Post by Picasso on Nov 23, 2024 12:25:07 GMT
Vale park. They put so much shit on it every other week they needed a combine harvester to cut it. Is it only me who is really bored with this supposed rivalry? I would rather they have great facilities and the area have 2 half decent teams. 🤷♂️ Currently, it’s not much of a rivalry, is it? But if the clubs crossed paths in the league again, then the rivalry would be huge. It’s typical of any two team city, really. It’s well and good wishing them well, but I imagine that if they had great facilities and a half decent team, it would impact us to a degree. For example, look at one team cities and their attendance v population ratios, compared to two team cities. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 23, 2024 12:49:16 GMT
I asked a copper at Oldham if I could walk along the touch line behind the goal. He surprisingly consented, and it was like walking on a springy, bouncy rice pudding skin. It just felt unnatural. The link I posted earlier has some interesting comments about how these pitches aided QPR, Luton, Oldham and Preston above and beyond normal turf pitches. They definitely gave them an advantage as they trained on the pitch. Without looking I’m sure QPR and Luton had really good home records not sure about the other 2. The link I posted earlier will answer your question ref Oldham and Preston. It’s a good overview of those clubs that went ‘plastic’. |
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Post by Middle White Stripe on Nov 23, 2024 12:51:46 GMT
I remember Robbie James (RIP) boldly declaring the plastic pitch at QPR would suit his smooth passing style just before we got absolutely rinsed 6-0 at QPR!!! Unfortunately,I remember it well! |
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 23, 2024 13:02:20 GMT
They definitely gave them an advantage as they trained on the pitch. Without looking I’m sure QPR and Luton had really good home records not sure about the other 2. The link I posted earlier will answer your question ref Oldham and Preston. It’s a good overview of those clubs that went ‘plastic’. Good read that and just confirms it was an advantage. Interesting how uefa wouldn’t let them play European games on it. The question still stands of who allowed these pitches. It’s like playing 12 v 11 |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Nov 23, 2024 13:06:28 GMT
Good read that and just confirms it was an advantage. Interesting how uefa wouldn’t let them play European games on it. The question still stands of who allowed these pitches. It’s like playing 12 v 11 Back in the day they were compared with the home advantage that Derby had with their ‘pitch’ in the 70s. QPRs omniturf when you read about it was simply not fit for purpose in the football league. |
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