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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2024 16:22:37 GMT
Only because of our first past the post system. I think getting more votes than any other party helped them a lot as well. As we know, reform split the Tory vote, there could have been parties joining forces in another type of system. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 14, 2024 16:28:59 GMT
I think right now with only 120 Tory MP's the job is to get attention.
In the words on Bob Dylan 'you can be beautiful or you can be ugly, but you can't be plain'!
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Post by ian57 on Nov 14, 2024 16:33:51 GMT
If these two are the best leaders that our political system can produce we are truly in serious shit as a country.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 14, 2024 17:15:08 GMT
If these two are the best leaders that our political system can produce we are truly in serious shit as a country. Can’t disagree But we could of been worse We could of had Harris and trump |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 14, 2024 17:17:15 GMT
So terrible that people voted them in! Only because of our first past the post system. Labour received between 2-3 million votes more than their nearest rivals mate |
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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2024 18:55:58 GMT
Only because of our first past the post system. Labour received between 2-3 million votes more than their nearest rivals mate Yep, but as I said above, as we know, reform split the Tory vote, there could have been parties joining forces in another type of system, - like proportional representation. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 14, 2024 20:37:15 GMT
Labour received between 2-3 million votes more than their nearest rivals mate Yep, but as I said above, as we know, reform split the Tory vote, there could have been parties joining forces in another type of system, - like proportional representation. Maybe. But there is not necessarily a direct correlation between the voting behaviours of one set people in one voting system and another. If people are voting according to a binary choice in a constituency, they won't necessarily vote the same way if they're suddenly given a whole portfolio of options to choose from under. Whichever PR system you implement also has an influence on voting behaviour. |
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 14, 2024 20:39:15 GMT
Yes. Of course she is out of her depth but give her time. Anyone who steps up to a role that is slightly alien to them, can't do it overnight and will look inept at first. But I've heard her speak a lot on various subjects, and comes across as a grounded individual. I don't get the straight off hate for her. Think she sounds more human than many politicians do. Do you agree with her that autistic children shouldn’t get any different treatment in school then? No but it wasn't her that wrote that was it. She did put her name to the literature though. I was more pissed off at her saying that the parties at Downing Street were no big deal. I know what side of the bed she sleeps on but as a politician, she comes across to me as someone who seems more honest than not. No matter what here personal policies may be. And so ,for the Tories I think she is a decent, if inexperienced candidate. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2024 21:57:44 GMT
I think getting more votes than any other party helped them a lot as well. As we know, reform split the Tory vote, there could have been parties joining forces in another type of system. And Lib Dems, Greens and SNP split the Labour vote, as always. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 14, 2024 23:18:26 GMT
Amazing how you lot have so much time to watch PMQ’s If it were more entertaining like in New Zealand I think you would find time to engage |
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