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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 13, 2024 16:26:20 GMT
I could watch Kemi Badenoch all day. The gulf between what she is & what she thinks she is could not be wider...If Badenoch was even a hundredth as good as she thinks she is, she'd be formidable.
Labour must be loving that Badenoch's first move as Conservative leader is to remind everyone of the ineptitude of the Brexit years by talking of oven ready deals and fawning over the US.
Badenoch seemed weirdly more nervous than she was last week, during her first PMQs. What is emerging is that the theme Badenoch wants to perpetuate is that Starmer is not in charge of his brief and can’t think on his feet. It would help were she not prone to garbling her own words while reading from a script when claiming that.
Can we really see Badenoch making it to the next election as leader? đź‘‹ It's one thing being obnoxious and having demented politics, but the incompetence will be too much even for the Tories.
Have the Tories elected another pup?
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Post by salopstick on Nov 13, 2024 16:29:59 GMT
not my first choice but she isnt experienced enough yet. Im sure she will grow into the role
and i think she will have a go at the election but unless they deal with reform labour are in for at least two terms
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Post by flea79 on Nov 13, 2024 16:55:20 GMT
not my first choice but she isnt experienced enough yet. Im sure she will grow into the role and i think she will have a go at the election but unless they deal with reform labour are in for at least two terms dunno, as i posted previously this labour government have made themselves wildly unpopular in record fast time, Snell was elected round here and within a week most people wanted too lynch him i predict the next election will deliver no actual majority and the likes of reform will become the kingmaker at the end of it all
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Post by salopstick on Nov 13, 2024 19:05:30 GMT
Parliament hasn’t had a great talent pool across all parties in years
Now it’s who you know to get a seat
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 13, 2024 19:08:24 GMT
Yes and yes…. Bloody awful appointment
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2024 19:11:14 GMT
She should have just joined Nige’s Revolution when she had the chance
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Nov 13, 2024 19:46:18 GMT
I could watch Kemi Badenoch all day. The gulf between what she is & what she thinks she is could not be wider...If Badenoch was even a hundredth as good as she thinks she is, she'd be formidable. Labour must be loving that Badenoch's first move as Conservative leader is to remind everyone of the ineptitude of the Brexit years by talking of oven ready deals and fawning over the US. Badenoch seemed weirdly more nervous than she was last week, during her first PMQs. What is emerging is that the theme Badenoch wants to perpetuate is that Starmer is not in charge of his brief and can’t think on his feet. It would help were she not prone to garbling her own words while reading from a script when claiming that. Can we really see Badenoch making it to the next election as leader? 👋 It's one thing being obnoxious and having demented politics, but the incompetence will be too much even for the Tories. Have the Tories have elected another pup. Have never thought that Starmer is any good at PMQ's but against Badenoch it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Reckon Johnson will be back in 2029.
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Post by probably on Nov 13, 2024 19:58:10 GMT
....and she beat Robert Jenrick, the nearest candidate, by a country mile.
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 13, 2024 20:06:26 GMT
not my first choice but she isnt experienced enough yet. Im sure she will grow into the role and i think she will have a go at the election but unless they deal with reform labour are in for at least two terms It's definitely fingers crossed time for the Tories. She was just so bad today. For the sake of Parliamentary process and procedure we need a reasonably strong Tory opposition.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 13, 2024 20:10:23 GMT
Amazing how you lot have so much time to watch PMQ’s
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Post by frasier37 on Nov 13, 2024 20:14:55 GMT
I could watch Kemi Badenoch all day. The gulf between what she is & what she thinks she is could not be wider...If Badenoch was even a hundredth as good as she thinks she is, she'd be formidable. Labour must be loving that Badenoch's first move as Conservative leader is to remind everyone of the ineptitude of the Brexit years by talking of oven ready deals and fawning over the US. Badenoch seemed weirdly more nervous than she was last week, during her first PMQs. What is emerging is that the theme Badenoch wants to perpetuate is that Starmer is not in charge of his brief and can’t think on his feet. It would help were she not prone to garbling her own words while reading from a script when claiming that. Can we really see Badenoch making it to the next election as leader? 👋 It's one thing being obnoxious and having demented politics, but the incompetence will be too much even for the Tories. Have the Tories have elected another pup. We all thought the same with trump and look how that ended
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 13, 2024 20:17:22 GMT
I could watch Kemi Badenoch all day. The gulf between what she is & what she thinks she is could not be wider...If Badenoch was even a hundredth as good as she thinks she is, she'd be formidable. Labour must be loving that Badenoch's first move as Conservative leader is to remind everyone of the ineptitude of the Brexit years by talking of oven ready deals and fawning over the US. Badenoch seemed weirdly more nervous than she was last week, during her first PMQs. What is emerging is that the theme Badenoch wants to perpetuate is that Starmer is not in charge of his brief and can’t think on his feet. It would help were she not prone to garbling her own words while reading from a script when claiming that. Can we really see Badenoch making it to the next election as leader? 👋 It's one thing being obnoxious and having demented politics, but the incompetence will be too much even for the Tories. Have the Tories have elected another pup. We all thought the same with trump and look how that ended I thought he often got the better of Hilary Clinton.....not that it was ever difficult not to...
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Post by metalhead on Nov 13, 2024 20:34:19 GMT
I could watch Kemi Badenoch all day. The gulf between what she is & what she thinks she is could not be wider...If Badenoch was even a hundredth as good as she thinks she is, she'd be formidable. Labour must be loving that Badenoch's first move as Conservative leader is to remind everyone of the ineptitude of the Brexit years by talking of oven ready deals and fawning over the US. Badenoch seemed weirdly more nervous than she was last week, during her first PMQs. What is emerging is that the theme Badenoch wants to perpetuate is that Starmer is not in charge of his brief and can’t think on his feet. It would help were she not prone to garbling her own words while reading from a script when claiming that. Can we really see Badenoch making it to the next election as leader? 👋 It's one thing being obnoxious and having demented politics, but the incompetence will be too much even for the Tories. Have the Tories have elected another pup. I think it's less about Bad Enoch and more, this simply isn't a good time for the Tories. It feels like we're in some sort of Tory in-between state generationally. All the old boys are legitimately old now, so they're either finished or not interested. All of 'less old' boys are still visibly tarnished or sufficiently in hiding. Kemi was a terrible choice from an awful list of candidates that makes up the shittest Tory leadership election on paper that has been witnessed in 30+ years. A bunch of absolute nobodies, D list politicians scrapping it out over a position that they are keeping warm until 2029 and beyond.
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Post by adri2008 on Nov 13, 2024 21:25:12 GMT
PMQs has always been a complete waste of time. They are politicians so never directly answer anything.
As for Badenoch, she'll have a chance (as will Farage) if public services arent showing significant improvement come 2029. People will grudgingly pay more but not if they are getting bugger all for it.
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Post by lordb on Nov 13, 2024 22:05:52 GMT
Out of interest does anyone think she's a good choice?
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 13, 2024 23:52:51 GMT
Amazing how you lot have so much time to watch PMQ’s It’s essential Wednesday lunchtime viewing, man! 🤓
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 13, 2024 23:54:33 GMT
Out of interest does anyone think she's a good choice? In the end it came down to a choice about whether it was either her or Robert “Leave the ECHR” Jenrick.
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 14, 2024 1:29:33 GMT
Out of interest does anyone think she's a good choice? Yes. Of course she is out of her depth but give her time. Anyone who steps up to a role that is slightly alien to them, can't do it overnight and will look inept at first. But I've heard her speak a lot on various subjects, and comes across as a grounded individual. I don't get the straight off hate for her. Think she sounds more human than many politicians do.
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Post by wannabee on Nov 14, 2024 3:01:52 GMT
Out of interest does anyone think she's a good choice? Yes. Of course she is out of her depth but give her time. Anyone who steps up to a role that is slightly alien to them, can't do it overnight and will look inept at first. But I've heard her speak a lot on various subjects, and comes across as a grounded individual. I don't get the straight off hate for her. Think she sounds more human than many politicians do. Totally grounded is our Kemi
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Nov 14, 2024 3:21:01 GMT
Yes. Of course she is out of her depth but give her time. Anyone who steps up to a role that is slightly alien to them, can't do it overnight and will look inept at first. But I've heard her speak a lot on various subjects, and comes across as a grounded individual. I don't get the straight off hate for her. Think she sounds more human than many politicians do. Totally grounded is our Kemi Slightly weird soundbite ye. Now if she was in her 20s and working at McDonald’s whilst living in a bedsit then maybe she’d have a point.
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Post by knype on Nov 14, 2024 5:15:02 GMT
I think both Starmer and Badenoch are as bad as each other, Starmer is an arrogant clown who follows on in the tradition of script reading and non-answering of questions
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 14, 2024 8:20:28 GMT
Out of interest does anyone think she's a good choice? Yes. Of course she is out of her depth but give her time. Anyone who steps up to a role that is slightly alien to them, can't do it overnight and will look inept at first. But I've heard her speak a lot on various subjects, and comes across as a grounded individual. I don't get the straight off hate for her. Think she sounds more human than many politicians do. Do you agree with her that autistic children shouldn’t get any different treatment in school then?
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Post by lordb on Nov 14, 2024 8:27:05 GMT
Out of interest does anyone think she's a good choice? Yes. Of course she is out of her depth but give her time. Anyone who steps up to a role that is slightly alien to them, can't do it overnight and will look inept at first. But I've heard her speak a lot on various subjects, and comes across as a grounded individual. I don't get the straight off hate for her. Think she sounds more human than many politicians do. That's a fascinating point of view purely because every time I've heard her speak she sounds batshit crazy
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Post by flea79 on Nov 14, 2024 9:01:36 GMT
not my first choice but she isnt experienced enough yet. Im sure she will grow into the role and i think she will have a go at the election but unless they deal with reform labour are in for at least two terms It's definitely fingers crossed time for the Tories. She was just so bad today. For the sake of Parliamentary process and procedure we need a reasonably strong Tory opposition. do we? Labour have been a woeful opposition for a very long time!
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Post by Ariel Manto on Nov 14, 2024 11:50:17 GMT
It's definitely fingers crossed time for the Tories. She was just so bad today. For the sake of Parliamentary process and procedure we need a reasonably strong Tory opposition. do we? Labour have been a woeful opposition for a very long time! Labour are the government, mate.
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Post by flea79 on Nov 14, 2024 11:52:50 GMT
do we? Labour have been a woeful opposition for a very long time! Labour are the government, mate. sorry were a woeful opposition! and they absolutely were terrible in opposition
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2024 12:30:30 GMT
Labour are the government, mate. sorry were a woeful opposition! and they absolutely were terrible in opposition So terrible that people voted them in!
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Post by noustie on Nov 14, 2024 13:17:18 GMT
Could I just seek a clarification - questioning Harris's competence and suitability was generalized as stemming from underlying misogyny, racism and stupidity but Badenoch is fair game?
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Post by Northy on Nov 14, 2024 14:27:37 GMT
sorry were a woeful opposition! and they absolutely were terrible in opposition So terrible that people voted them in! Only because of our first past the post system.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2024 15:38:00 GMT
So terrible that people voted them in! Only because of our first past the post system. I think getting more votes than any other party helped them a lot as well.
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