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Post by wannabee on Oct 31, 2024 21:21:24 GMT
The answer is not to continue to top up Housing Benefits which are then paid to Private Landlords who then have an incentive to continue to increase Rents The answer is to build more Social and affordable Housing In 1976 Government spent £22.3Bn on housing £21.3Bn on Building Houses £1Bn on Housing Benefits . In 2022 Government spent £30.5Bn on Housing £3.7Bn Building Houses £26.8Bn on Housing Benefits This is the Black Hole - to continue to pour £Billions into the coffers of Private Landlords and disgracefully at least one is a Labour MP www.bigissue.com/news/housing/local-housing-allowance-benefits-autumn-budget/You don't turnaround an Oil Tanker easily and reversing decades of stupidity from all Party's will take time and is multi faceted You and I can be sceptical but the well known phrase, doing the same thing etc The attached gives some detail of the holistic plan which to be fair is yet to be fully developed www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/news/budget-2024-chancellor-commits-5bn-to-housebuilders/There isn't the capacity and capability to build in the volumes they want. Modular's a dead duck and the infrastructure needs as much investment as the stock, much like the EV debacle The alternative to finding a solution it to just give up The scale of houses to be built needs to include this It needs to be transformational over the next 10 years dwfgroup.com/en-ie/news-and-insights/insights/2024/8/labour-new-towns-initiative |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 31, 2024 21:35:46 GMT
There isn't the capacity and capability to build in the volumes they want. Modular's a dead duck and the infrastructure needs as much investment as the stock, much like the EV debacle The alternative to finding a solution it to just give up The scale of houses to be built needs to include this It needs to be transformational over the next 10 years dwfgroup.com/en-ie/news-and-insights/insights/2024/8/labour-new-towns-initiativeI'll follow this with interest. This is not the post ww2 period when previous new towns were commenced and believe me planning is in no shape or form similar to how it was back in those days. The current process is in short a living nightmare of gargantuan proportions. And these new, new towns in any event wont be contributing any housing numbers for at least 10 years. At least....If they ever get off the ground at all that is. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 31, 2024 21:38:35 GMT
Looks like they’ve upset the farmers big time
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 21:44:13 GMT
There isn't the capacity and capability to build in the volumes they want. Modular's a dead duck and the infrastructure needs as much investment as the stock, much like the EV debacle The alternative to finding a solution it to just give up The scale of houses to be built needs to include this It needs to be transformational over the next 10 years dwfgroup.com/en-ie/news-and-insights/insights/2024/8/labour-new-towns-initiativeThat's great, but nothing in it details the issues with the practical aspect of constructing such a place. Inflation post COVID, in relation to both labour and materials costs, runs at a bare minimum of 20% - and that's for shit labour too. Finishing HS2 and the other civils projects they're promising (schools, hospitals, etc) and all the retrofit they're already delivering on the existing housing stock will provide stiff competition for scant resources, again in relation to materials, labour and the supply chain in general. They need 10 years to create a workforce, nevermind upskill one, to deliver on the scale they're promising. I predict they're going to have to bite the bullet and prioritise what they try to support and drive through and housing will be sacrificed in their first term. I highly recommend anyone who is interested in obtaining a trade or profession in the construction or civils industries to seriously look at pursuing it. It'll be like printing money because they're in such short supply. |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 31, 2024 21:46:18 GMT
I'll follow this with interest. This is not the post ww2 period when previous new towns were commenced and believe me planning is in no shape or form similar to how it was back in those days. The current process is in short a living nightmare of gargantuan proportions. And these new, new towns in any event wont be contributing any housing numbers for at least 10 years. At least....If they ever get off the ground at all that is. Of course planning laws need reform which they are attempting to do Everybody knows there no quick fix I'm just highlighting what's being attempted The negativity is a bit wearisome, it's almost like people would rather retain the status quo and piss and moan about it My comments aren't directed towards you mate |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 31, 2024 21:48:58 GMT
Looks like they’ve upset the farmers big time And they're upset for good reason. We should be helping farmers as much as possible to help us become more food self sufficient anyway. Especially a net zero fixated govt like this you'd have thought. Instead they are ruining them which will lead to even more co2 heavy imports of food. Maybe they are wanting to ruin them to compulsory purchase their land for some of these new towns they want to build 🤔 I love a conspiracy 😆 |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 21:50:25 GMT
Looks like they’ve upset the farmers big time And they're upset for good reason. We should be helping farmers as much as possible to help us become more food self sufficient anyway. Especially a net zero fixated govt like this you'd have thought. Instead they are ruining them which will lead to even more co2 heavy imports of food. Maybe they are wanting to ruin them to compulsory purchase their land for some of these new towns they want to build 🤔 I love a conspiracy 😆 They CPO'd farmers land to build the big council estates around Stoke during the 50s and 60s. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 31, 2024 21:54:34 GMT
I'll follow this with interest. This is not the post ww2 period when previous new towns were commenced and believe me planning is in no shape or form similar to how it was back in those days. The current process is in short a living nightmare of gargantuan proportions. And these new, new towns in any event wont be contributing any housing numbers for at least 10 years. At least....If they ever get off the ground at all that is. Of course planning laws need reform which they are attempting to do Everybody knows there no quick fix I'm just highlighting what's being attempted The negativity is a bit wearisome, it's almost like people would rather retain the status quo and piss and moan about it My comments aren't directed towards you mate My negativity comes from dealing with planning depts daily. I welcome reform. I am just highly skeptical that its just the usual rhetoric whereby what they actually end up doing is introducing yet more barriers to development that slows the process down even more. I'll be watching with interest as I say. Hopefully they succeed. I just doubt it will sadly.. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 31, 2024 21:56:35 GMT
And they're upset for good reason. We should be helping farmers as much as possible to help us become more food self sufficient anyway. Especially a net zero fixated govt like this you'd have thought. Instead they are ruining them which will lead to even more co2 heavy imports of food. Maybe they are wanting to ruin them to compulsory purchase their land for some of these new towns they want to build 🤔 I love a conspiracy 😆 They CPO'd farmers land to build the big council estates around Stoke during the 50s and 60s. I've got nothing against cpo's. I was just musing they are lining the farms up for CP orders by devaluing them in readiness...proper cynic me 😆 |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 21:59:11 GMT
They CPO'd farmers land to build the big council estates around Stoke during the 50s and 60s. I've got nothing against cpo's. I was just musing they are lining the farms up for CP orders by devaluing them in readiness...proper cynic me 😆 Like a rural pathfinder project? |
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Post by questionable on Oct 31, 2024 21:59:45 GMT
The Martin Lewis money show is a must watch for anyone not up to speed with the Budget and other financial matters he can pick holes in anything tbh...it was not a bad budget for the working class imo I’m yet to see/read anything remotely that states it’s a good budget for the working class, far from it actually. Employers NI increase with Min wage increase spells job losses, no/smaller wage increases elsewhere and higher prices according to everything I’ve read and understood |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 31, 2024 22:01:50 GMT
I've got nothing against cpo's. I was just musing they are lining the farms up for CP orders by devaluing them in readiness...proper cynic me 😆 Like a rural pathfinder project? Not sure what one of those is cranny 🤔 |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 31, 2024 22:08:32 GMT
That's great, but nothing in it details the issues with the practical aspect of constructing such a place. Inflation post COVID, in relation to both labour and materials costs, runs at a bare minimum of 20% - and that's for shit labour too. Finishing HS2 and the other civils projects they're promising (schools, hospitals, etc) and all the retrofit they're already delivering on the existing housing stock will provide stiff competition for scant resources, again in relation to materials, labour and the supply chain in general. They need 10 years to create a workforce, nevermind upskill one, to deliver on the scale they're promising. I predict they're going to have to bite the bullet and prioritise what they try to support and drive through and housing will be sacrificed in their first term. I highly recommend anyone who is interested in obtaining a trade or profession in and the construction or civils industries to seriously look at pursuing it. It'll be like printing money because they're in such short supply. I don't disagree with any of that mate It will be remarkable if Labour push through anything transformative in NHS, Education, Housing and I'll add fundamentally the Economy in the next 10 and out of the question in the term of this Parliament Labour know that It's a huge task. It will need charismatic leadership in each Department committed to cut through the impediments. Are they in place? Who knows. The focus on Starmer is pointless, his role is to support with resources any of the above 4 departments that look like they may make a difference, not all will. I can't foretell the future anymore than you but more of the same will only take us backwards |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 22:09:12 GMT
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Post by questionable on Oct 31, 2024 22:14:14 GMT
The NHS in its current form is totally out of date and despite any amount you throw at it it’ll still yield the same results.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 31, 2024 22:16:30 GMT
Ah I get you now. And you've highlighted the risks with these things in that an awful lot of tax payers money can be wasted on this kind of stuff. Your HS2 example being the prime candidate. And it all links back to the god awful planning system that we have. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 31, 2024 22:16:46 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 31, 2024 22:19:56 GMT
A bad day for farmers
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 22:22:21 GMT
That's great, but nothing in it details the issues with the practical aspect of constructing such a place. Inflation post COVID, in relation to both labour and materials costs, runs at a bare minimum of 20% - and that's for shit labour too. Finishing HS2 and the other civils projects they're promising (schools, hospitals, etc) and all the retrofit they're already delivering on the existing housing stock will provide stiff competition for scant resources, again in relation to materials, labour and the supply chain in general. They need 10 years to create a workforce, nevermind upskill one, to deliver on the scale they're promising. I predict they're going to have to bite the bullet and prioritise what they try to support and drive through and housing will be sacrificed in their first term. I highly recommend anyone who is interested in obtaining a trade or profession in and the construction or civils industries to seriously look at pursuing it. It'll be like printing money because they're in such short supply. I don't disagree with any of that mate It will be remarkable if Labour push through anything transformative in NHS, Education, Housing and I'll add fundamentally the Economy in the next 10 and out of the question in the term of this Parliament Labour know that It's a huge task. It will need charismatic leadership in each Department committed to cut through the impediments. Are they in place? Who knows. The focus on Starmer is pointless, his role is to support with resources any of the above 4 departments that look like they may make a difference, not all will. I can't foretell the future anymore than you but more of the same will only take us backwards My cynicism is based on 20 odd years of realism at the coalface. When you work in and around the political sector, to me at least, it just feels like the same old platitudes rehashed every so often by people sporting a different colour tie. They just want the latest set of numbers, KPIs, stats etc to rehash and fudge that provides so semblance of a truth that looks a little bit like what they promised, or that will allow them to back pedal from that as gracefully as possible. I'd be more forgiving if they all admitted it's what they want to happen but they generally don't have a clue how it will or how to make it happen give they've only ever studied P.P.E and then gone straight into the political industry. Their honesty, and being willing to listen to people who actually understood the reality of a situation would send them up in my estimation. As it is I'm no more inclined to vote for any of them at a national level than I was before. At a local level it's a different matter. Interestingly I get the impression they're worried about getting a fucking in the local polls come May. They'll have pissed people off how normally couldn't be arsed to vote locally, enough to get out and show their displeasure. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 22:25:20 GMT
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Post by questionable on Oct 31, 2024 22:31:26 GMT
I don't disagree with any of that mate It will be remarkable if Labour push through anything transformative in NHS, Education, Housing and I'll add fundamentally the Economy in the next 10 and out of the question in the term of this Parliament Labour know that It's a huge task. It will need charismatic leadership in each Department committed to cut through the impediments. Are they in place? Who knows. The focus on Starmer is pointless, his role is to support with resources any of the above 4 departments that look like they may make a difference, not all will. I can't foretell the future anymore than you but more of the same will only take us backwards My cynicism is based on 20 odd years of realism at the coalface. When you work in and around the political sector, to me at least, it just feels like the same old platitudes rehashed every so often by people sporting a different colour tie. They just want the latest set of numbers, KPIs, stats etc to rehash and fudge that provides so semblance of a truth that looks a little bit like what they promised, or that will allow them to back pedal from that as gracefully as possible. I'd be more forgiving if they all admitted it's what they want to happen but they generally don't have a clue how it will or how to make it happen give they've only ever studied P.P.E and then gone straight into the political industry. Their honesty, and being willing to listen to people who actually understood the reality of a situation would send them up in my estimation. As it is I'm no more inclined to vote for any of them at a national level than I was before. At a local level it's a different matter. Interestingly I get the impression they're worried about getting a fucking in the local polls come May. They'll have pissed people off how normally couldn't be arsed to vote locally, enough to get out and show their displeasure. People complain but rarely put pen to paper when it comes to election voting in my experience, Tories antics are still fresh in people’s minds so people won’t bother as there’s no other alternatives out there. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 22:37:32 GMT
My cynicism is based on 20 odd years of realism at the coalface. When you work in and around the political sector, to me at least, it just feels like the same old platitudes rehashed every so often by people sporting a different colour tie. They just want the latest set of numbers, KPIs, stats etc to rehash and fudge that provides so semblance of a truth that looks a little bit like what they promised, or that will allow them to back pedal from that as gracefully as possible. I'd be more forgiving if they all admitted it's what they want to happen but they generally don't have a clue how it will or how to make it happen give they've only ever studied P.P.E and then gone straight into the political industry. Their honesty, and being willing to listen to people who actually understood the reality of a situation would send them up in my estimation. As it is I'm no more inclined to vote for any of them at a national level than I was before. At a local level it's a different matter. Interestingly I get the impression they're worried about getting a fucking in the local polls come May. They'll have pissed people off how normally couldn't be arsed to vote locally, enough to get out and show their displeasure. People complain but rarely put pen to paper when it comes to election voting in my experience, Tories antics are still fresh in people’s minds so people won’t bother as there’s no other alternatives out there. Local elections tend to rest on the grey vote, removing their WFA won't have enamoured Labour to them. Independent candidates don't need to move the bar too much to get in. You're only looking at 600 votes for example in some wards to win it. As far as I know, and it's only anecdotal, they're getting a thrashing locally and nationally from their voters who feel misled. Add to that absolutely nothing changes for the better around here whether you stay loyal to Labour or chance your arm with the Tories. That probably means that people are likely to say fuck it and vote for the independents and other outliers because what difference will it make, either way we're still fucked and it's the opportunity to piss the two supposed safe bets off. |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 31, 2024 22:43:44 GMT
I don't disagree with any of that mate It will be remarkable if Labour push through anything transformative in NHS, Education, Housing and I'll add fundamentally the Economy in the next 10 and out of the question in the term of this Parliament Labour know that It's a huge task. It will need charismatic leadership in each Department committed to cut through the impediments. Are they in place? Who knows. The focus on Starmer is pointless, his role is to support with resources any of the above 4 departments that look like they may make a difference, not all will. I can't foretell the future anymore than you but more of the same will only take us backwards My cynicism is based on 20 odd years of realism at the coalface. When you work in and around the political sector, to me at least, it just feels like the same old platitudes rehashed every so often by people sporting a different colour tie. They just want the latest set of numbers, KPIs, stats etc to rehash and fudge that provides so semblance of a truth that looks a little bit like what they promised, or that will allow them to back pedal from that as gracefully as possible. I'd be more forgiving if they all admitted it's what they want to happen but they generally don't have a clue how it will or how to make it happen give they've only ever studied P.P.E and then gone straight into the political industry. Their honesty, and being willing to listen to people who actually understood the reality of a situation would send them up in my estimation. As it is I'm no more inclined to vote for any of them at a national level than I was before. At a local level it's a different matter. Interestingly I get the impression they're worried about getting a fucking in the local polls come May. They'll have pissed people off how normally couldn't be arsed to vote locally, enough to get out and show their displeasure. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 31, 2024 22:52:15 GMT
Looks like they’ve upset the farmers big time And they're upset for good reason. We should be helping farmers as much as possible to help us become more food self sufficient anyway. Especially a net zero fixated govt like this you'd have thought. Instead they are ruining them which will lead to even more co2 heavy imports of food. Maybe they are wanting to ruin them to compulsory purchase their land for some of these new towns they want to build 🤔 I love a conspiracy 😆 Most farmers around here are using their land for visitors to attract money/income on top of the yields. Those with farmland benefited from Agricultural Property Relief (APR, which meant there was zero inheritance tax on their land when passing it down to future generations. Labour changed it so farms worth up to £1 million will still benefit from the inheritance tax relief, but those worth more will have to pay an inheritance tax rate of 20%. It is perfectly understandable why farmers not using their land solely for farming should be taxed the same (if not more) inheritance tax rate for land worth over £1m as someone with domestic property or land worth £500k not subject to APR or farming subsidies. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 22:56:27 GMT
My cynicism is based on 20 odd years of realism at the coalface. When you work in and around the political sector, to me at least, it just feels like the same old platitudes rehashed every so often by people sporting a different colour tie. They just want the latest set of numbers, KPIs, stats etc to rehash and fudge that provides so semblance of a truth that looks a little bit like what they promised, or that will allow them to back pedal from that as gracefully as possible. I'd be more forgiving if they all admitted it's what they want to happen but they generally don't have a clue how it will or how to make it happen give they've only ever studied P.P.E and then gone straight into the political industry. Their honesty, and being willing to listen to people who actually understood the reality of a situation would send them up in my estimation. As it is I'm no more inclined to vote for any of them at a national level than I was before. At a local level it's a different matter. Interestingly I get the impression they're worried about getting a fucking in the local polls come May. They'll have pissed people off how normally couldn't be arsed to vote locally, enough to get out and show their displeasure. 20 years ago I was told be somebody high up in local government that I'd be dead before Stoke regenerated. I was affronted by this and saw it as a challenge to immerse myself in a field that I naively believed would make a difference to people. I still aim to do that as best I can, but I now agree with that person, who was probably just trying to warn me anyway. You can't be in it for the money, Jesus Christ you can earn far more dealing with the commercial sides of the industry, but it helps me sleep at night and at least I'm using what I know to try and improve everybody's lot, rather than just my own. It just gets a bit tiring when you're shat on from a great height constantly by people who really should just be their to support you to do your job to the best of your professional ability - leaving them to benefit from any positive outcome that you facilitate. If that's not what people want to hear then fair do's but I'm afraid that's the reality of the situation for most people directly involved in this shambles. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 22:58:05 GMT
And they're upset for good reason. We should be helping farmers as much as possible to help us become more food self sufficient anyway. Especially a net zero fixated govt like this you'd have thought. Instead they are ruining them which will lead to even more co2 heavy imports of food. Maybe they are wanting to ruin them to compulsory purchase their land for some of these new towns they want to build 🤔 I love a conspiracy 😆 Most farmers around here are using their land for visitors to attract money/income on top of the yields. Those with farmland benefited from Agricultural Property Relief, which meant there was zero inheritance tax on their land when passing it down to future generations. Labour changed it so farms worth up to £1 million will still benefit from the inheritance tax relief, but those worth more will have to pay an inheritance tax rate of 20%. It is perfectly understandable why farmers not using their land solely for farming should be taxed the same (if not more) inheritance tax rate for land worth over £1m as someone with land worth £500k. How about somebody like the Duke of Westminster, or even Charlie's boys. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 31, 2024 23:02:54 GMT
20 years ago I was told be somebody high up in local government that I'd be dead before Stoke regenerated. I was affronted by this and saw it as a challenge to immerse myself in a field that I naively believed would make a difference to people. I still aim to do that as best I can, but I now agree with that person, who was probably just trying to warn me anyway. You can't be in it for the money, Jesus Christ you can earn far more dealing with the commercial sides of the industry, but it helps me sleep at night and at least I'm using what I know to try and improve everybody's lot, rather than just my own. It just gets a bit tiring when you're shat on from a great height constantly by people who really should just be their to support you to do your job to the best of your professional ability - leaving them to benefit from any positive outcome that you facilitate. If that's not what people want to hear then fair do's but I'm afraid that's the reality of the situation for most people directly involved in this shambles. There isn’t much going for Stoke as a city in terms of regeneration. Outside of Bet365 and the NHS it’s a dead duck. Local councillors and politicians generally are too busy protecting their own jobs rather than creating any new ones for other people. It’s one of the reasons I intensely dislike Gareth Snell as he’s the personification of that attitude. |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 31, 2024 23:05:41 GMT
That's great, but nothing in it details the issues with the practical aspect of constructing such a place. Inflation post COVID, in relation to both labour and materials costs, runs at a bare minimum of 20% - and that's for shit labour too. Finishing HS2 and the other civils projects they're promising (schools, hospitals, etc) and all the retrofit they're already delivering on the existing housing stock will provide stiff competition for scant resources, again in relation to materials, labour and the supply chain in general. They need 10 years to create a workforce, nevermind upskill one, to deliver on the scale they're promising. I predict they're going to have to bite the bullet and prioritise what they try to support and drive through and housing will be sacrificed in their first term. I highly recommend anyone who is interested in obtaining a trade or profession in the construction or civils industries to seriously look at pursuing it. It'll be like printing money because they're in such short supply. Absolutely correct. I have related my story before of a young 23 year old bricklayer who told me in 2019, he had just got a mortgage and paid a deposit on a house. He left school at 16, did an apprenticeship, and when qualified went freelance working for whoever paid him the most. He was laughing at his school mates who were coming out of uni with £10,000s of debt. The country is desperately short of craftsmen of all sorts. The electrician who lives across the road from me running his own business, works all over the country, whoever will pay him a packet. You don't even need to be a craftsman, there are loads of jobs people don't want to do even window cleaning. If investment returns to the level of the 1980s which I want to happen, it will also be a return to 1980s "loadsamoney" for those smart enough to seize the opportunity. Where is the government going to get all the people to do the work in schools, hospitals, etc.? When AI gets seriously underway it will sweep away millions of jobs of those people employed looking at computer screens. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 23:14:37 GMT
That's great, but nothing in it details the issues with the practical aspect of constructing such a place. Inflation post COVID, in relation to both labour and materials costs, runs at a bare minimum of 20% - and that's for shit labour too. Finishing HS2 and the other civils projects they're promising (schools, hospitals, etc) and all the retrofit they're already delivering on the existing housing stock will provide stiff competition for scant resources, again in relation to materials, labour and the supply chain in general. They need 10 years to create a workforce, nevermind upskill one, to deliver on the scale they're promising. I predict they're going to have to bite the bullet and prioritise what they try to support and drive through and housing will be sacrificed in their first term. I highly recommend anyone who is interested in obtaining a trade or profession in the construction or civils industries to seriously look at pursuing it. It'll be like printing money because they're in such short supply. Absolutely correct. I have related my story before of a young 23 year old bricklayer who told me in 2019, he had just got a mortgage and paid a deposit on a house. He left school at 16, did an apprenticeship, and when qualified went freelance working for whoever paid him the most. He was laughing at his school mates who were coming out of uni with £10,000s of debt. The country is desperately short of craftsmen of all sorts. The electrician who lives across the road from me running his own business, works all over the country, whoever will pay him a packet. You don't even need to be a craftsman, there are loads of jobs people don't want to do even window cleaning. If investment returns to the level of the 1980s which I want to happen, it will also be a return to 1980s "loadsamoney" for those smart enough to seize the opportunity. Where is the government going to get all the people to do the work in schools, hospitals, etc.? When AI gets seriously underway it will sweep away millions of jobs of those people employed looking at computer screens. £760 a day for a decent QS, £460 for one who doesn't want much travel. £2k a week for a renderer/plasterer just out of their time and able to keep a decent pace up. Write your own ticket if you're prepared to get your hands dirty. |
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Post by wannabee on Oct 31, 2024 23:58:24 GMT
20 years ago I was told be somebody high up in local government that I'd be dead before Stoke regenerated. I was affronted by this and saw it as a challenge to immerse myself in a field that I naively believed would make a difference to people. I still aim to do that as best I can, but I now agree with that person, who was probably just trying to warn me anyway. You can't be in it for the money, Jesus Christ you can earn far more dealing with the commercial sides of the industry, but it helps me sleep at night and at least I'm using what I know to try and improve everybody's lot, rather than just my own. It just gets a bit tiring when you're shat on from a great height constantly by people who really should just be their to support you to do your job to the best of your professional ability - leaving them to benefit from any positive outcome that you facilitate. If that's not what people want to hear then fair do's but I'm afraid that's the reality of the situation for most people directly involved in this shambles. I have absolutely no experience or knowledge of what you are describing within Local Government but fully accept what you are saying to be true With respect what you are describing is less talented people than yourself taking credit for the valuable work you perform This is hardly a new phenomenon in Local Government, Private Industry or any organization you could think of. This is a structural management failure. |
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