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Post by emretezzy on Oct 22, 2024 21:19:46 GMT
28 shots 13 Corners
Against.
That's just fucking abysmal. Near enough a shot every 2 minutes (counting the ball being out of play for a 1/3 of the game).
We have to be the easiest team in the league to play against.
Pelach gives it all the nice phrases, pressing, high-intensity. The buzz words that got him the job.
But the fact of the matter is we have zero midfield, you can run through us at will. And when you easily get to our back 4, it's take your fucking pick.
The keeper has single handedly got us two points this week. We should have lost by a fair few to Nowrich and a fair few tonight.
But its 2 home games down the swanny. The reverse fixtures will be 0 points.
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 22, 2024 21:22:01 GMT
We are in trouble, or as they say in Catalonia "merda de merda"
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Post by stokecitydom on Oct 22, 2024 21:23:04 GMT
You are right about certain things in your post, but no way should we have lost by a few to Norwich. Other than the great save from Vik and one header from a corner they created very little.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 22, 2024 21:26:07 GMT
And worryingly we have only played one of the top 6 so far.
Cant see us getting anything at Blades on satdee
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 22, 2024 21:27:54 GMT
Worrying how he thinks that 4-4-2 is the answer because it worked with Gallagher in the team.
All it does without him is see the ball coming back far too often and our midfield getting overrun.
As for this bizarre tactic we have of letting the opposition fire shots in with zero pressure on them...what the fuck is that all about? We just invite them to have a go from dangerous areas. It's suicide.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 22, 2024 21:28:31 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor.
An absolute shambles from start to finish.
Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time)
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 22, 2024 21:30:47 GMT
You definitely look at those stats and think we were lucky to get a point. After going 2 up as well. No discipline and poor talent. Defence is poor (other clubs throw outs) and the midfield has no ability to help in those defensive duties. Business as usual
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Post by delilahwhy on Oct 22, 2024 21:34:02 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor. An absolute shambles from start to finish. Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time) Sidibe appears to be out of favour under Nacho. Very strange game. 2 up at half time and yet bricking it as you knew we were extremely lucky to be ahead. They were all over us. We were far too open and we had Johansson to thank for the lead. It was only a matter of time. We were clinging on. Unbeaten in 4 is the positive. But its tough to watch.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 22, 2024 21:34:05 GMT
On a more positive note that’s 4 unbeaten😉
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 22, 2024 21:34:44 GMT
Embarrassing
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Post by Billy the kid on Oct 22, 2024 21:35:29 GMT
On a more positive note that’s 4 unbeaten😉 yey
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Post by wuzza on Oct 22, 2024 21:36:47 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor. An absolute shambles from start to finish. Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time) When the only solution available is a kid and some poor sod plucked from an obscure league in Asia you have to feel the transfer process was a teeny bit mis directed again this summer.
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 22, 2024 21:36:58 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor. An absolute shambles from start to finish. Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time) It absolutely won't work and isn't working. We need to go 4-3-3 and try to play through midfield - perhaps Burger sitting deep to take the ball off the defence and go from there. Koumas is by far the best option we've got to play the lone striker role, but even he's not ideally suited to it. I think that would make us harder to break down, and give us at least some sort of plan going forward.
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Post by chamberlain on Oct 22, 2024 21:41:51 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor. An absolute shambles from start to finish. Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time) Problem is we've got Thompson who's a squad player at best and 3 flair players .No wonder we look bad defensively.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 22, 2024 21:45:24 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor. An absolute shambles from start to finish. Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time) Without being completely dramatic, that's arguably the most worrying performance I've seen from us since relegation. Even in the Premier League, I've never seen us be so overrun, so passive and to be honest, quite simply so poor. Over 100 shots against us in 6 games is a frightening stat.
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 22, 2024 21:48:09 GMT
We can't defend full stop, he's supposed to be a defensive coach, I've seen nothing of it yet in every game we are cut open with ease!
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Post by mossleypotter on Oct 22, 2024 22:06:24 GMT
Master tactician ? Please can somebody offer a rational explanation of his tactics when it comes to defending corners ?.
Firstly it's always 11 men back so on the off chance we do win the first ball, it's only coming straight back in as there's no outlet and secondly we seem to want the opposition to take a short corner ?
We stick the smallest man on the pitch, Manhoef, in some no mans land between the taker and the near post and he then just watches while the taker knocks it to his mate 10 yards away who then either puts in a cross from a much more dangerous position or knocks it round the ambling Manhoef back to the taker to do this ? It happened about 10 times tonight & probably explains why we conceded so many bloody shots ! 🤬
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 22, 2024 23:10:33 GMT
And worryingly we have only played one of the top 6 so far. Cant see us getting anything at Blades on satdee Keep making the same point the fixtures have bern benign in the last weeks of the year we face Burnley twice , Sunderland , leeds just can’t see 25 points by the turn of the year the survival bench mark we are in serious trouble
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 22, 2024 23:13:18 GMT
And worryingly we have only played one of the top 6 so far. Cant see us getting anything at Blades on satdee Keep making the same point the fixtures have bern benign in the last weeks of the year we face Burnley twice , Sunderland , leeds just can’t see w5 points by the turn of the year the survival bench mark we are in serious trouble I'm very very worried already. Need points on the board quickly.
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 22, 2024 23:45:19 GMT
Master tactician ? Please can somebody offer a rational explanation of his tactics when it comes to defending corners ?. Firstly it's always 11 men back so on the off chance we do win the first ball, it's only coming straight back in as there's no outlet and secondly we seem to want the opposition to take a short corner ? We stick the smallest man on the pitch, Manhoef, in some no mans land between the taker and the near post and he then just watches while the taker knocks it to his mate 10 yards away who then either puts in a cross from a much more dangerous position or knocks it round the ambling Manhoef back to the taker to do this ? It happened about 10 times tonight & probably explains why we conceded so many bloody shots ! 🤬 I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s a bloody ridiculous way to set up for a corner. I’m still absolutely dumbfounded
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 6:06:58 GMT
To be honest, if you'd said after Oxford we'd have 113 shots against us you'd wonder what the hell we'd done.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2024 7:53:58 GMT
To be honest, if you'd said after Oxford we'd have 113 shots against us you'd wonder what the hell we'd done. To be fair if you said in the away end after Oxford we woild get another point or score you’d could easily have been sectioned
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Post by vidigoals on Oct 23, 2024 8:40:55 GMT
I spent most of the match with my jaw on the floor. An absolute shambles from start to finish. Not sure this 442 has got a prayer of working without Gallagher, and to basically shut up shop and play for a draw with half an hour left shows he was all out of answers on the night (not that surprising when you look at the bench - but if you were Sidibe or Seko, you'd be scratching your head and asking why he didn't think you were potentially part of the solution at half-time) Without being completely dramatic, that's arguably the most worrying performance I've seen from us since relegation. That comment gets thrown about on here nearly every week.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 8:55:39 GMT
Without being completely dramatic, that's arguably the most worrying performance I've seen from us since relegation. That comment gets thrown about on here nearly every week. That's probably true, we just keep stretching the point! 28 attempts though on our goal, in a home match, we've not had that many before have we?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 23, 2024 8:59:09 GMT
We've only conceded that number of shots once since relegation, in a tonking at Swansea under Nathan Jones, when we had Edwards and BMI sent off at the start of the second half.
In a home match, I've never seen anything like it.
The home match that it reminded me of was Leeds under Bielsa, where we just looked stupid, but just checked and they only had 21 shots in that game
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 23, 2024 9:06:31 GMT
We've only conceded that number of shots once since relegation, in a tonking at Swansea under Nathan Jones, when we had Edwards and BMI sent off at the start of the second half. In a home match, I've never seen anything like it. The home match that it reminded me of was Leeds under Bielsa, where we just looked stupid, but just checked and they only had 21 shots in that game It was as bad on the eye test as in the data lab then. This clubs just a joke.
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 23, 2024 9:07:11 GMT
We've only conceded that number of shots once since relegation, in a tonking at Swansea under Nathan Jones, when we had Edwards and BMI sent off at the start of the second half. In a home match, I've never seen anything like it. The home match that it reminded me of was Leeds under Bielsa, where we just looked stupid, but just checked and they only had 21 shots in that game 113 shots in 6 games. I'd say most teams wouldn't concede that in half a season.
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Post by vidigoals on Oct 23, 2024 9:08:14 GMT
That comment gets thrown about on here nearly every week. That's probably true, we just keep stretching the point! 28 attempts though on our goal, in a home match, we've not had that many before have we? Probably not but that's why we've got a top keeper. I'd rather have 50 shots against us on goal and draw 3-3 than concede 1 shot against and lose 1-0.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 9:18:44 GMT
We've only conceded that number of shots once since relegation, in a tonking at Swansea under Nathan Jones, when we had Edwards and BMI sent off at the start of the second half. In a home match, I've never seen anything like it. The home match that it reminded me of was Leeds under Bielsa, where we just looked stupid, but just checked and they only had 21 shots in that game To be honest, I'd be disappointed giving up that many chances in a home match against a top PL side, let alone Bristol City. It's a massive worry, and unsustainable.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 23, 2024 9:20:10 GMT
That's probably true, we just keep stretching the point! 28 attempts though on our goal, in a home match, we've not had that many before have we? Probably not but that's why we've got a top keeper. I'd rather have 50 shots against us on goal and draw 3-3 than concede 1 shot against and lose 1-0. So it's ok to give up so many shots as we've got a decent keeper? That's a strange argument.
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