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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 19, 2024 16:11:43 GMT
Must be really frustrating for the gaffer as it’s clear as day what we’re missing.
I like the way he’s setting us up but it’s gutting that the 2 key pieces of the jigsaw are missing.
We’re really missing some physicality in the middle as we do look really lightweight and Gallaghers a huge loss but thought Koumas did well.
After a sticky start Im beginning to warm to the new man.
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 19, 2024 16:14:28 GMT
Thommo whilst limited, did fine today.
He won more tackles and kept it straightforward with the passing - we looked better with him on the pitch than Burger.
We definitely need to strengthen these two areas though.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 19, 2024 16:18:11 GMT
Thommo whilst limited, did fine today. He won more tackles and kept it straightforward with the passing - we looked better with him on the pitch than Burger. We definitely need to strengthen these two areas though. I’m not a fan but he did well and we looked better with him. Imagine what a difference a top DM would make. |
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 19, 2024 16:18:39 GMT
The Gallagher situation is self inflicted.
We willingly paid wads of cash for a player we knew was injured.
He will almost certainly be another Nick Powell.
Sheer madness from Stoke “decision makers”.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 19, 2024 16:24:17 GMT
Thommo whilst limited, did fine today. He won more tackles and kept it straightforward with the passing - we looked better with him on the pitch than Burger. We definitely need to strengthen these two areas though. Same when he came on at Swans. a couple of sarcastic comments re him coming on but we were a lot better |
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Post by stokief on Oct 19, 2024 16:25:04 GMT
Thommo whilst limited, did fine today. He won more tackles and kept it straightforward with the passing - we looked better with him on the pitch than Burger. We definitely need to strengthen these two areas though. JT is much maligned and has been in and out of the team so regularly it must be very frustrating for him. I think this new found camaraderie and positive and honest way of Coaching will probably be a big help. You don't have to play in every match to be an important cog in the machine. It's the way you're managed when you're not playing. I think there's more consistency and understanding from a coaching point of view where you are told what is required of you and you then be the very best you can when called upon. Everyone treated in the same honest way when doing well or not. Man management is a massive part of creating a cohesive, dedicated, all-for-one team. We've been lacking this for a very long time. I'm truely hoping the tide has turned and we may be surprised what we see from some of our 'less' glamorous or 'loved' players. GOARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN STOKE! |
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Post by smithypotter on Oct 19, 2024 16:27:41 GMT
Said this during the second half, it was the perfect game for Gallagher.
People can bash Thompson for his limitations but I've said it before and I'll said it again, it's no coincidence (for the second game running in fact) we have looked the better side when Burger goes off for Thompson.
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Post by stokief on Oct 19, 2024 16:30:43 GMT
The Gallagher situation is self inflicted. We willingly paid wads of cash for a player we knew was injured. He will almost certainly be another Nick Powell. Sheer madness from Stoke “decision makers”. Well, I'm glad we took a huge gamble with a certain Ric Fuller many moons ago when no other team would touch him. You win some, you lose some however, don't underestimate the influence in the dressing room that a player like Gally can have injured or not and that can be very important. Younger, less experienced players have already seen what he was about, his play, his attitude to the game, Doubtless, he will still be playing a cheer-leader/mentor role whilst in recovery and believe it or not that can be worth it's weight in gold. I hope he returns from injury as quickly as possible. We took a risk , so far it's not paid off with minutes in the team but I have the feeling that in this new set up he still won't be far from the action. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 19, 2024 16:31:14 GMT
We were better when Thompson came on. I don’t think he and Birger compliment each other. Hopefully Lawal is on his way back and we may see more of Seko, not sure Pearson will ever be back to what he was.
Up front Koumas tried his best and thought he did ok, but we certainly miss the physicality of a Gallagher type
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 19, 2024 16:33:33 GMT
Thompson plays much better when he comes on as a sub. When he starts he seems garbage.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 19, 2024 16:38:47 GMT
Must be really frustrating for the gaffer as it’s clear as day what we’re missing. I like the way he’s setting us up but it’s gutting that the 2 key pieces of the jigsaw are missing. We’re really missing some physicality in the middle as we do look really lightweight and Gallaghers a huge loss but thought Koumas did well. After a sticky start Im beginning to warm to the new man. A sticky start He lost his first game ffs 2 games forgot about boro. It was always going to take him time |
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 19, 2024 16:41:19 GMT
Thompson plays much better when he comes on as a sub. When he starts he seems garbage. Yes I have noticed that too. Don’t think it’s a fitness thing, I think it’s he knows he isn’t the most technical player with incisive passing, driving forward etc. I think it’s the weight of expectation and his self awareness that holds him back when he starts. When he comes on as sub, it’s usually in games where we are weak in midfield so his impact in stabilising things is obvious and much needs. |
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Post by clivey05 on Oct 19, 2024 16:45:50 GMT
Thompson always seems to play well when he comes on as sub or starts the odd game. But when he has a run of starts he seems to get worse.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 19, 2024 16:46:49 GMT
Must be really frustrating for the gaffer as it’s clear as day what we’re missing. I like the way he’s setting us up but it’s gutting that the 2 key pieces of the jigsaw are missing. We’re really missing some physicality in the middle as we do look really lightweight and Gallaghers a huge loss but thought Koumas did well. After a sticky start Im beginning to warm to the new man. A sticky start He lost his first game ffs 2 games forgot about boro. It was always going to take him time start is the first 2 games. I like him I’m not knocking him. |
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Post by potterfox1011 on Oct 19, 2024 16:50:51 GMT
Thompson always seems to play well when he comes on as sub or starts the odd game. But when he has a run of starts he seems to get worse. why is Phillips being ignored far better than Thompson.lets hope youngsters arent being sidelined. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 19, 2024 17:02:51 GMT
Thompson always seems to play well when he comes on as sub or starts the odd game. But when he has a run of starts he seems to get worse. why is Phillips being ignored far better than Thompson.lets hope youngsters arent being sidelined. They play different positions |
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Post by Ron on Oct 19, 2024 17:04:04 GMT
The Gallagher situation is self inflicted. We willingly paid wads of cash for a player we knew was injured. He will almost certainly be another Nick Powell. Sheer madness from Stoke “decision makers”. hes so effective though when he plays. Need another option similar to him. |
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 19, 2024 17:45:00 GMT
The Gallagher situation is self inflicted. We willingly paid wads of cash for a player we knew was injured. He will almost certainly be another Nick Powell. Sheer madness from Stoke “decision makers”. Well, I'm glad we took a huge gamble with a certain Ric Fuller many moons ago when no other team would touch him. You win some, you lose some however, don't underestimate the influence in the dressing room that a player like Gally can have injured or not and that can be very important. Younger, less experienced players have already seen what he was about, his play, his attitude to the game, Doubtless, he will still be playing a cheer-leader/mentor role whilst in recovery and believe it or not that can be worth it's weight in gold. I hope he returns from injury as quickly as possible. We took a risk , so far it's not paid off with minutes in the team but I have the feeling that in this new set up he still won't be far from the action. I love your optimism and comparison with one of our all time legends but come on, Stoke are a basket case in the transfer department and have been for a decade or so. I will stick with my original assessment of the situation. He may well be a decent player on and off the pitch and may score a handful but I think we all know deep down his default position will be in the treatment table. Hope I am horribly wrong |
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Post by stokief on Oct 19, 2024 18:05:29 GMT
Well, I'm glad we took a huge gamble with a certain Ric Fuller many moons ago when no other team would touch him. You win some, you lose some however, don't underestimate the influence in the dressing room that a player like Gally can have injured or not and that can be very important. Younger, less experienced players have already seen what he was about, his play, his attitude to the game, Doubtless, he will still be playing a cheer-leader/mentor role whilst in recovery and believe it or not that can be worth it's weight in gold. I hope he returns from injury as quickly as possible. We took a risk , so far it's not paid off with minutes in the team but I have the feeling that in this new set up he still won't be far from the action. I love your optimism and comparison with one of our all time legends but come on, Stoke are a basket case in the transfer department and have been for a decade or so. I will stick with my original assessment of the situation. He may well be a decent player on and off the pitch and may score a handful but I think we all know deep down his default position will be in the treatment table. Hope I am horribly wrong My comparison was based on the fact we took a huge punt on Ric with his injury history and thank goodness we did not a comparison of either player's ability. I would imagine we went in fuuly knowing that this could be a 50-50. Think he's going to be more important generally more than just on the pitch. I am, however hoping that we see a lot more of him playing obviously. Not every player is a flash harry but they offer other attributes. Just think Gally is that kind of guy. |
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