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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 16, 2024 22:15:48 GMT
No he didn't Norwich offered us Sheron as we wouldn't sell Scott until we got a replacement . MO'N wanted Scott who he managed at Wycombe He rectified his error though. He didn't have to go with the swap deal. Was Moxey did the deal I spoke to him on the Friday and prob was Sheron's wages but he got a settlement from Norwich He signed the following Monday or Tuesday Scott wanted away so suited all. He used to sit in the bar on his own after games. Obviously didn't want to be here Seem to remember he had a kid in a carry cot with him one time. He never spoke to anyone Moxey was a bit pissed off as that phone line got hold of the story over the weekend. 0898121040..remember that? Someone leaked it |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 16, 2024 22:31:49 GMT
He rectified his error though. He didn't have to go with the swap deal. Was Moxey did the deal I spoke to him on the Friday and prob was Sheron's wages but he got a settlement from Norwich He signed the following Monday or Tuesday Scott wanted away so suited all. He used to sit in the bar on his own after games. Obviously didn't want to be here Seem to remember he had a kid in a carry cot with him one time. He never spoke to anyone Moxey was a bit pissed off as that phone line got hold of the story over the weekend. 0898121040..remember that? Someone leaked it Did Moxey do the deal on Lou's approval? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 16, 2024 22:44:14 GMT
Was Moxey did the deal I spoke to him on the Friday and prob was Sheron's wages but he got a settlement from Norwich He signed the following Monday or Tuesday Scott wanted away so suited all. He used to sit in the bar on his own after games. Obviously didn't want to be here Seem to remember he had a kid in a carry cot with him one time. He never spoke to anyone Moxey was a bit pissed off as that phone line got hold of the story over the weekend. 0898121040..remember that? Someone leaked it Did Moxey do the deal on Lou's approval? No idea to be honest but he wasn't behind the dealbeing put together Sheron was quite a coup. |
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Post by senojbor on Oct 16, 2024 22:47:45 GMT
I don’t like hearing Lou swear so unnecessarily like that. It seems forced and not befitting of the man himself. Think I’m getting old Yeah, I thought that too. Never the less I'm not alone in saying we had some great times and memories. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 17, 2024 2:02:27 GMT
Did Moxey do the deal on Lou's approval? No idea to be honest but he wasn't behind the dealbeing put together Sheron was quite a coup. Putting deals together is what CEOs do. That's part of their roles. I can't imagine Lou being OK with a signing he didn't approve of |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 17, 2024 8:44:42 GMT
No idea to be honest but he wasn't behind the dealbeing put together Sheron was quite a coup. Putting deals together is what CEOs do. That's part of their roles. I can't imagine Lou being OK with a signing he didn't approve of To be fair he would have been mad to turn the deal down Steve Stone another one offered to us , £55k seem to remember . Was a couple of days from happening but Cloughie pulled the plug due to an injury crisis. Was an international a year later |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 17, 2024 8:54:26 GMT
Putting deals together is what CEOs do. That's part of their roles. I can't imagine Lou being OK with a signing he didn't approve of To be fair he would have been mad to turn the deal down Steve Stone another one offered to us , £55k seem to remember . Was a couple of days from happening but Cloughie pulled the plug due to an injury crisis. Was an international a year later Brian Clough sent Peter Taylor to watch an exciting young striker. Taylor didn't rate him so that was that. It was Ian Rush. All managers have some they let get away. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 17, 2024 9:22:56 GMT
To be fair he would have been mad to turn the deal down Steve Stone another one offered to us , £55k seem to remember . Was a couple of days from happening but Cloughie pulled the plug due to an injury crisis. Was an international a year later Brian Clough sent Peter Taylor to watch an exciting young striker. Taylor didn't rate him so that was that. It was Ian Rush. All managers have some they let get away. There was a few shenanigans going on with our signings and non signings with agents. John Gayle in particular. We let Andy Cole who was at Fulham at the time and Mendonca on deadline day get away . That was the beginning of the end for Macari. Robert Codner seem to remember also. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 17, 2024 9:55:33 GMT
From memory, I think Macari struggled balancing his time between managing the club and the impending litigation case he had going on with Celtic. I heard this was having a detrimental effect on the amount of time he was spending at work, which led to tensions between him and Moxey.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 17, 2024 10:02:18 GMT
From memory, I think Macari struggled balancing his time between managing the club and the impending litigation case he had going on with Celtic. I heard this was having a serious effect on the amount of time he was spending at work, which led to tensions between him and Moxey. He didn't turn up that deadline day when we were looking to sign Mendonca and was the final straw I think for Moxey who was trying to push it over the line and was some issue with Mendonca's agent and Macari , can't remember what exactly . Grimsby accepted our offer early afternoon , I think was £625k. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 17, 2024 10:04:40 GMT
From memory, I think Macari struggled balancing his time between managing the club and the impending litigation case he had going on with Celtic. I heard this was having a serious effect on the amount of time he was spending at work, which led to tensions between him and Moxey. He didn't turn up that deadline day when we were looking to sign Mendonca and was the final straw I think for Moxey who was trying to push it over the line and was some issue with Mendonca's agent and Macari , can't remember what exactly . Grimsby accepted our offer early afternoon , I think was £625k. Would have been a good signing, and I suppose things like that would start to grate and affect relationships with the hierarchy at the club. |
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Post by monsoonmoon on Oct 17, 2024 13:17:00 GMT
Bertie Biggins’ pigeon story is well worth a watch Carl Dicko been on it aswell…turned into him and Parkin regaling stories of TPs traing sessions…excellent viewing! Dean Crowe also been on more recently too. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 17, 2024 13:37:03 GMT
From memory, I think Macari struggled balancing his time between managing the club and the impending litigation case he had going on with Celtic. I heard this was having a serious effect on the amount of time he was spending at work, which led to tensions between him and Moxey. He didn't turn up that deadline day when we were looking to sign Mendonca and was the final straw I think for Moxey who was trying to push it over the line and was some issue with Mendonca's agent and Macari , can't remember what exactly . Grimsby accepted our offer early afternoon , I think was £625k. Where were we ever going get 625000 from? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 17, 2024 16:00:34 GMT
He didn't turn up that deadline day when we were looking to sign Mendonca and was the final straw I think for Moxey who was trying to push it over the line and was some issue with Mendonca's agent and Macari , can't remember what exactly . Grimsby accepted our offer early afternoon , I think was £625k. Where were we ever going get 625000 from? Peschisolido was costing us a lot of money He had a goal clause amongst others in his contract as well. Would have been cheaper to buy Mendonca apparently . Fees are not paid in one lump sum 150k odd a year was cheaper than keeping Peschisolido who in the long run could have ended up costing up to around 1.2 million pounds. We still owed Birmingham a good chunk of his fee as well. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 17, 2024 16:48:37 GMT
Where were we ever going get 625000 from? Peschisolido was costing us a lot of money He had a goal clause amongst others in his contract as well. Would have been cheaper to buy Mendonca apparently . Fees are not paid in one lump sum 150k odd a year was cheaper than keeping Peschisolido who in the long run could have ended up costing up to around 1.2 million pounds. We still owed Birmingham a good chunk of his fee as well. So was Mendonca the deadline day of 96, the day we sold Pesch? For some reason Id thought it was the season after. But thinking about it, given how close we were to the new ground move, that would probably be unlikely Agree Mendonca would have been a great signing |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 17, 2024 17:03:35 GMT
Peschisolido was costing us a lot of money He had a goal clause amongst others in his contract as well. Would have been cheaper to buy Mendonca apparently . Fees are not paid in one lump sum 150k odd a year was cheaper than keeping Peschisolido who in the long run could have ended up costing up to around 1.2 million pounds. We still owed Birmingham a good chunk of his fee as well. So was Mendonca the deadline day of 96, the day we sold Pesch? For some reason Id thought it was the season after. But thinking about it, given how close we were to the new ground move, that would probably be unlikely Agree Mendonca would have been a great signing Was the same day although Pesch was really sold a month or two before. I was sat talking to Rob and I think Wayne was there in Rob's office , the commercial manager when the offer was accepted. They'd rejected the same offer previously. I think 2 days prior hoping for a better offer elsewhere. Pesch was costing us a fortune and him going back wrote off money we owed them apparently. |
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 17, 2024 18:31:11 GMT
Bottom line is we were third tier and beating really poor sides forvyhe most. Peschisolido wasn't sold without his knowledge, that myth, he had plenty of time to find a replacement and didn't. Messing around with agents etc, let's not go there He did a good job but the best manager ever etc...absolutely not . I guess if you're winning games is all that matters at time no matter what level He did a very good job but let's not get carried away We lost our last 7 away games , scoring once. Are our favourite or most enjoyable managers always the most successful? I'm not sure anyone was saying he was necessarily the best? I enjoyed Boskamp but he was nowhere near our best. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 17, 2024 19:13:10 GMT
Bottom line is we were third tier and beating really poor sides forvyhe most. Peschisolido wasn't sold without his knowledge, that myth, he had plenty of time to find a replacement and didn't. Messing around with agents etc, let's not go there He did a good job but the best manager ever etc...absolutely not . I guess if you're winning games is all that matters at time no matter what level He did a very good job but let's not get carried away We lost our last 7 away games , scoring once. Are our favourite or most enjoyable managers always the most successful? I'm not sure anyone was saying he was necessarily the best? I enjoyed Boskamp but he was nowhere near our best. Asa Hartford was my favourite. 75% win record. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 17, 2024 21:43:45 GMT
I really liked Kamara despite his record . A lot of bad luck as well on the pitch
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Post by Scouse on Oct 18, 2024 11:37:46 GMT
Waddo .. it was his team that ultimately got me into Stoke ..topped with success
Durban - ( first time ) The right age to really enjoy my aways ..turned our team into professionals ..topped with success ..
Lou - bonded with most supporters a bond not seen since the Durban days , made going games exciting again again topped with success
TP .. Galvanised our support , even gave success to those that weren’t galvanised
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 18, 2024 11:43:16 GMT
Waddo .. it was his team that ultimately got me into Stoke ..topped with success Durban - ( first time ) The right age to really enjoy my aways ..turned our team into professionals ..topped with success .. Lou - bonded with most supporters a bond not seen since the Durban days , made going games exciting again again topped with success TP .. Galvanised our support , even gave success to those that weren’t galvanised Durban did fantastic things. 6 defeats that season. A bit outspoken but always talked sense. Mid table finish in Division 1 as well. After Hughes and Pulis for me the best times. |
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Post by Scouse on Oct 18, 2024 11:58:17 GMT
Waddo .. it was his team that ultimately got me into Stoke ..topped with success Durban - ( first time ) The right age to really enjoy my aways ..turned our team into professionals ..topped with success .. Lou - bonded with most supporters a bond not seen since the Durban days , made going games exciting again again topped with success TP .. Galvanised our support , even gave success to those that weren’t galvanised Durban did fantastic things. 6 defeats that season. A bit outspoken but always talked sense. Mid table finish in Division 1 as well. After Hughes and Pulis for me the best times. Indeed I still see 6 defeats as the bench mark for teams aiming for Championship success |
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Oct 18, 2024 14:22:29 GMT
Taking us from a struggling league position and the aftermath of the catastrophic Blyth Spartans defeat to promotion into the top flight in the space of 15 months will always make Durban one of my most favourite Stoke managers. No huge tinkering, just key signings ( Doyle, Irvine, O'Callaghan ) and a total transformation.
On the original point of the thread, I've been trying to find Under The Cosh but when I Google it, it brings up loads of episodes but nothing about Lou, TP, etc so I'm clearly doing something wrong !
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Post by SteveWyman on Oct 18, 2024 14:40:39 GMT
On the original point of the thread, I've been trying to find Under The Cosh but when I Google it, it brings up loads of episodes but nothing about Lou, TP, etc so I'm clearly doing something wrong ! If you're spelling "under" with an "e", that's probably where you're going wrong. That used (or should that be "usd"?) to trip me up until I got into the habit. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 18, 2024 16:54:11 GMT
Durban did fantastic things. 6 defeats that season. A bit outspoken but always talked sense. Mid table finish in Division 1 as well. After Hughes and Pulis for me the best times. Indeed I still see 6 defeats as the bench mark for teams aiming for Championship success I'll take 6 home defeats,that would be huge progress from the 10 to 12 we've had last few years We've had 2 already 😑 |
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Post by Scouse on Oct 18, 2024 20:16:53 GMT
Indeed I still see 6 defeats as the bench mark for teams aiming for Championship success I'll take 6 home defeats,that would be huge progress from the 10 to 12 we've had last few years We've had 2 already 😑 Me too .🙂..tho 6 is overall , It stands as a barometer of just how far we are ( or have been ) from making a challenge , if you want success ( or stay out of trouble ) especially with 3 points for a win , you have to first become hard to beat , not least to stop gifting rivals 3 points.. |
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Oct 19, 2024 20:32:29 GMT
On the original point of the thread, I've been trying to find Under The Cosh but when I Google it, it brings up loads of episodes but nothing about Lou, TP, etc so I'm clearly doing something wrong ! If you're spelling "under" with an "e", that's probably where you're going wrong. That used (or should that be "usd"?) to trip me up until I got into the habit. Ah....GOOD spot, I hadn't noticed the lack of "e" Cheers mate |
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