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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 10, 2024 10:26:03 GMT
Was just looking at a pic of Ralph Coates on The Shoot magazine site and his hair looks like a cape trailing behind him .
Got me wondering, when did the idea of shaving your head instead of hanging on for dear life become normal and acceptable. I say acceptable as it was seen as funny to be bald when I was a kid. Baldies would have stuff shouted at them , not only by kids but by many folk.
Footballers never shaved their heads. Terry Mancini I vaguely remember was very noticeable watching old clips , Bobby C never gave in and I remember David Armstrong playing at Stoke when I was about 7 and getting it full pelt as he cherished those few remaing locks. .
Was a few on TV, giants of the screen like Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner and Mr Rumbold from Are you being served ,not many.
I remember seeing a band on TOTP when I was about 7 and they had a baldie with a huge beard...think was a band called Gillan. Was a bold look for the day.
Was Errol from Hot Chocolate as well of course, Terry Conroy lifted his book title from one of their songs.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2024 10:32:15 GMT
Was just looking at a pic of Ralph Coates on The Shoot magazine site and his hair looks like a cape trailing behind him . Got me wondering, when did the idea of shaving your head instead of hanging on for dear life become normal and acceptable. I say acceptable as it was seen as funny to be bald when I was a kid. Baldies would have stuff shouted at them , not only by kids but by many folk. Footballers never shaved their heads. Terry Mancini I vaguely remember was very noticeable watching old clips , Bobby C never gave in and I remember David Armstrong playing at Stoke when I was about 7 and getting it full pelt as he cherished those few remaing locks. . Was a few on TV, giants of the screen like Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner and Mr Rumbold from Are you being served ,not many. I remember seeing a band on TOTP when I was about 7 and they had a baldie with a huge beard...think was a band called Gillan. Was a bold look for the day. Was Errol from Hot Chocolate as well of course, Terry Conroy lifted his book title from one of their songs. . The Gillan baldy was bassist Kohn Mcoy. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 10, 2024 10:34:49 GMT
Was just looking at a pic of Ralph Coates on The Shoot magazine site and his hair looks like a cape trailing behind him . Got me wondering, when did the idea of shaving your head instead of hanging on for dear life become normal and acceptable. I say acceptable as it was seen as funny to be bald when I was a kid. Baldies would have stuff shouted at them , not only by kids but by many folk. Footballers never shaved their heads. Terry Mancini I vaguely remember was very noticeable watching old clips , Bobby C never gave in and I remember David Armstrong playing at Stoke when I was about 7 and getting it full pelt as he cherished those few remaing locks. . Was a few on TV, giants of the screen like Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner and Mr Rumbold from Are you being served ,not many. I remember seeing a band on TOTP when I was about 7 and they had a baldie with a huge beard...think was a band called Gillan. Was a bold look for the day. Was Errol from Hot Chocolate as well of course, Terry Conroy lifted his book title from one of their songs. . The Gillan baldy was bassist Kohn Mcoy. It was Gillan then. Wasn't so sure He looked like his head was on upside down Sure yer man Gillan had plenty to spare |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2024 11:09:59 GMT
The Gillan baldy was bassist Kohn Mcoy. It was Gillan then. Wasn't so sure He looked like his head was on upside down Sure yer man Gillan had plenty to spare He did. Swung it around well too. John Mcoy not Kohn. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2024 11:26:52 GMT
Alan Cork was an early pioneer of the bald head/big beard look
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 10, 2024 11:48:32 GMT
Alan Cork was an early pioneer of the bald head/big beard look Good shout I remember the commentator pointing out during the all Sheff cup semi final that he was the same age as the groomed mullet of Chris Waddle |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2024 12:03:50 GMT
Alan Cork was an early pioneer of the bald head/big beard look Good shout I remember the commentator pointing out during the all Sheff cup semi final that he was the same age as the groomed mullet of Chris Waddle We drew 1-1 at Stockport on that day |
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Post by AlliG on Oct 10, 2024 12:40:44 GMT
Was just looking at a pic of Ralph Coates on The Shoot magazine site and his hair looks like a cape trailing behind him . Got me wondering, when did the idea of shaving your head instead of hanging on for dear life become normal and acceptable. I say acceptable as it was seen as funny to be bald when I was a kid. Baldies would have stuff shouted at them , not only by kids but by many folk. Footballers never shaved their heads. Terry Mancini I vaguely remember was very noticeable watching old clips , Bobby C never gave in and I remember David Armstrong playing at Stoke when I was about 7 and getting it full pelt as he cherished those few remaing locks. . Was a few on TV, giants of the screen like Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner and Mr Rumbold from Are you being served ,not many. I remember seeing a band on TOTP when I was about 7 and they had a baldie with a huge beard...think was a band called Gillan. Was a bold look for the day. Was Errol from Hot Chocolate as well of course, Terry Conroy lifted his book title from one of their songs. . It is an interesting question. Even back in the 1960s I seem to recall that the comb-overs of Charlton, Coates etc were seen as a bit of a joke. I am convinced that the newspaper photographers went out of their way to get an action photo of the "lid" flapping in the wind. In 1960s/70s comedies a comb-over was usually a visual indicator that the character was going to be a jobs-worth. Looking back at old Stoke team photos it is surprising how few players we had back in the 60s & 70s who didn't have a full head of hair (even Howard Kendall had more hair than I recalled). I went bald in 1980 and anyone suggesting that a comb-over was an option would get a very succinct two word response.  Very short haircuts back in those days probably also reminded people of their military service and later being a skinhead was not necessarily seen as a positive. (I went to Germany in 1978 and one of our group was barred from a nightclub in Osnabruk for "looking like a soldier"). It might have even been something as simple as having to wait until home electric hair clippers were readily available for the shaved head look to really become the preferred option? In the 1960s my Mum had a set of manual clippers that she used to trim round the edges of my short back and sides. Gordon Bennett did they hurt. They seemed to pull out more hair than they cut. Whatever the reason I can't say I miss the comb-over.  |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 10, 2024 12:42:53 GMT
Good shout I remember the commentator pointing out during the all Sheff cup semi final that he was the same age as the groomed mullet of Chris Waddle We drew 1-1 at Stockport on that day I remember was at a Stoke game and watched it later on MOTD or whatever. Cork scored as well |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 10, 2024 15:33:02 GMT
On a separate note Bobby Charlton left his wife 600k in his will we’ve won allowing for some prudent IHT planning it’s word as ways from what many are earning in a month now
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Post by desman2 on Oct 10, 2024 15:44:26 GMT
Our own Rooster was a the proud owner of a shiny top.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 10, 2024 17:08:36 GMT
Was just looking at a pic of Ralph Coates on The Shoot magazine site and his hair looks like a cape trailing behind him . Got me wondering, when did the idea of shaving your head instead of hanging on for dear life become normal and acceptable. I say acceptable as it was seen as funny to be bald when I was a kid. Baldies would have stuff shouted at them , not only by kids but by many folk. Footballers never shaved their heads. Terry Mancini I vaguely remember was very noticeable watching old clips , Bobby C never gave in and I remember David Armstrong playing at Stoke when I was about 7 and getting it full pelt as he cherished those few remaing locks. . Was a few on TV, giants of the screen like Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner and Mr Rumbold from Are you being served ,not many. I remember seeing a band on TOTP when I was about 7 and they had a baldie with a huge beard...think was a band called Gillan. Was a bold look for the day. Was Errol from Hot Chocolate as well of course, Terry Conroy lifted his book title from one of their songs. . It is an interesting question. Even back in the 1960s I seem to recall that the comb-overs of Charlton, Coates etc were seen as a bit of a joke. I am convinced that the newspaper photographers went out of their way to get an action photo of the "lid" flapping in the wind. In 1960s/70s comedies a comb-over was usually a visual indicator that the character was going to be a jobs-worth. Looking back at old Stoke team photos it is surprising how few players we had back in the 60s & 70s who didn't have a full head of hair (even Howard Kendall had more hair than I recalled). I went bald in 1980 and anyone suggesting that a comb-over was an option would get a very succinct two word response. Very short haircuts back in those days probably also reminded people of their military service and later being a skinhead was not necessarily seen as a positive. (I went to Germany in 1978 and one of our group was barred from a nightclub in Osnabruk for "looking like a soldier"). It might have even been something as simple as having to wait until home electric hair clippers were readily available for the shaved head look to really become the preferred option? In the 1960s my Mum had a set of manual clippers that she used to trim round the edges of my short back and sides. Gordon Bennett did they hurt. They seemed to pull out more hair than they cut. Whatever the reason I can't say I miss the comb-over. Was the two words response 'sounds cool' ? If someone had a skinhead cut it was deemed daring and dangerous For us well groomed ,Alan Biley style Mulleteers I envied the time it saved in the morning and how much they saved on those purple bottle coloured mousses that cost about £5 as pop. |
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Post by Linx on Oct 10, 2024 18:46:50 GMT
As delicate a question is at what point does the gentleman who is prematurely balding decide to go the whole way and get rid of it?
Plus, I wonder if Prince William has ever been tempted? His current option makes him look like a tribute to Arthur Lowe. The palace would probably not allow him to shave it all off, lest it looks too common.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 10, 2024 19:05:32 GMT
International break, is it?
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Oct 10, 2024 19:08:27 GMT
Plus, I wonder if Prince William has ever been tempted? His current option makes him look like a tribute to Arthur Lowe. The palace would probably not allow him to shave it all off, lest it looks too common. I’ve wondered this too. Ironically, having patchy hair like that makes you look older than just having a shiny bald head. In his situation there’s probably protocol or etiquette preventing it. I can never understand a normal bloke though in 2024 rocking the combover. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Oct 10, 2024 19:13:24 GMT
Did the wonderful Brian Murphy go down the comb over route before losing the middle bit and just sticking with the sides 🤔. Just looked him up, 92 now.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 10, 2024 19:19:43 GMT
Did the wonderful Brian Murphy go down the comb over route before losing the middle bit and just sticking with the sides 🤔. Just looked him up, 92 now. Was reading the book Hellraisers When Richard Butilon died, he had crystalised alcohol on his spine Was shocked to read that Brian Murphy was his drinking buddy. Yootha loved a drink as well. Very insecure about her looks , hence the gaudy clothes. Read her book a few years back. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Oct 11, 2024 11:38:17 GMT
My old hairdresser( I don't require one anymore)told me that the Mitchell brothers (EastEnders) did a lot for making baldness acceptable by appearing on TV 5 nights a week on mainstream TV. I agree when we were young we used to shout at bald people in the street 😂
It's quite rare to see a combe over nowadays. And having a shaven/or a grade 1 haircut is quite cool (or so I tell myself).
Never had anyone call me baldie 😏 !
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 11, 2024 11:50:06 GMT
On a separate note Bobby Charlton left his wife 600k in his will we’ve won allowing for some prudent IHT planning it’s word as ways from what many are earning in a month now Football didn't bring in the millions it does now or the equivalent of for the day . Pretty much how it works |
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Post by AlliG on Oct 11, 2024 15:08:40 GMT
It is an interesting question. Even back in the 1960s I seem to recall that the comb-overs of Charlton, Coates etc were seen as a bit of a joke. I am convinced that the newspaper photographers went out of their way to get an action photo of the "lid" flapping in the wind. In 1960s/70s comedies a comb-over was usually a visual indicator that the character was going to be a jobs-worth. Looking back at old Stoke team photos it is surprising how few players we had back in the 60s & 70s who didn't have a full head of hair (even Howard Kendall had more hair than I recalled). I went bald in 1980 and anyone suggesting that a comb-over was an option would get a very succinct two word response. Very short haircuts back in those days probably also reminded people of their military service and later being a skinhead was not necessarily seen as a positive. (I went to Germany in 1978 and one of our group was barred from a nightclub in Osnabruk for "looking like a soldier"). It might have even been something as simple as having to wait until home electric hair clippers were readily available for the shaved head look to really become the preferred option? In the 1960s my Mum had a set of manual clippers that she used to trim round the edges of my short back and sides. Gordon Bennett did they hurt. They seemed to pull out more hair than they cut. Whatever the reason I can't say I miss the comb-over. Was the two words response 'sounds cool' ? If someone had a skinhead cut it was deemed daring and dangerous For us well groomed ,Alan Biley style Mulleteers I envied the time it saved in the morning and how much they saved on those purple bottle coloured mousses that cost about £5 as pop. The only skinhead I can remember playing for Stoke was the young Jackie Marsh. All the others seemed to prefer the Englebert Humperdink look.  The other option was the "Robinson Crusoe" as so spectacularly modelled by Trevor Hockey.  |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 11, 2024 18:05:31 GMT
Was the two words response 'sounds cool' ? If someone had a skinhead cut it was deemed daring and dangerous For us well groomed ,Alan Biley style Mulleteers I envied the time it saved in the morning and how much they saved on those purple bottle coloured mousses that cost about £5 as pop. The only skinhead I can remember playing for Stoke was the young Jackie Marsh. All the others seemed to prefer the Englebert Humperdink look. The other option was the "Robinson Crusoe" as so spectacularly modelled by Trevor Hockey. Bill Oddie never hit it off at Villa |
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Post by Gods on Oct 11, 2024 22:51:40 GMT
Can't think of too many Stoke players with a comb over.
Only the late great Howard Kendall springs to mind.
One of the 'holy trinity' of Stoke City midfield players in my lifetime...Hudson Kendall, N'Zonzi.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 11, 2024 23:34:08 GMT
Was just looking at a pic of Ralph Coates on The Shoot magazine site and his hair looks like a cape trailing behind him . Got me wondering, when did the idea of shaving your head instead of hanging on for dear life become normal and acceptable. I say acceptable as it was seen as funny to be bald when I was a kid. Baldies would have stuff shouted at them , not only by kids but by many folk. Footballers never shaved their heads. Terry Mancini I vaguely remember was very noticeable watching old clips , Bobby C never gave in and I remember David Armstrong playing at Stoke when I was about 7 and getting it full pelt as he cherished those few remaing locks. . Was a few on TV, giants of the screen like Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner and Mr Rumbold from Are you being served ,not many. I remember seeing a band on TOTP when I was about 7 and they had a baldie with a huge beard...think was a band called Gillan. Was a bold look for the day. Was Errol from Hot Chocolate as well of course, Terry Conroy lifted his book title from one of their songs. . It is an interesting question. Even back in the 1960s I seem to recall that the comb-overs of Charlton, Coates etc were seen as a bit of a joke. I am convinced that the newspaper photographers went out of their way to get an action photo of the "lid" flapping in the wind. In 1960s/70s comedies a comb-over was usually a visual indicator that the character was going to be a jobs-worth. Looking back at old Stoke team photos it is surprising how few players we had back in the 60s & 70s who didn't have a full head of hair (even Howard Kendall had more hair than I recalled). I went bald in 1980 and anyone suggesting that a comb-over was an option would get a very succinct two word response. Very short haircuts back in those days probably also reminded people of their military service and later being a skinhead was not necessarily seen as a positive. (I went to Germany in 1978 and one of our group was barred from a nightclub in Osnabruk for "looking like a soldier"). It might have even been something as simple as having to wait until home electric hair clippers were readily available for the shaved head look to really become the preferred option? In the 1960s my Mum had a set of manual clippers that she used to trim round the edges of my short back and sides. Gordon Bennett did they hurt. They seemed to pull out more hair than they cut. Whatever the reason I can't say I miss the comb-over. This is a good documentary about the combover m.imdb.com/title/tt1024980/ |
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Post by marrer on Oct 12, 2024 6:17:08 GMT
On a separate note Bobby Charlton left his wife 600k in his will we’ve won allowing for some prudent IHT planning it’s word as ways from what many are earning in a month now If love to know what the bloody he’ll you’re trying to say here Benj. Fucked if I know…,, |
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Post by outspaced on Oct 12, 2024 6:20:23 GMT
Noel Brotherston of Blackburn and Northern Ireland had the most unique barnet of the time. Tight curls that prevented a comb over then as he aged the balding went straight through the middle with two banks of hair either side a bit like a railway cutting look if you like.
Sad to read that he was just 38 when he died and worked as a painter and decorator in Blackburn when he finished playing.
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Post by Linx on Oct 12, 2024 7:11:44 GMT
Wasn’t Lee Carsley in a baldie lookalike midfield duo with Thomas Gravesen at Everton? If I’m mistaken, and someone tells me that Carsley was never at Everton, I’ll put it down to me running out of coffee this morning.
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Post by liathroid on Oct 12, 2024 8:48:10 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 12, 2024 8:52:24 GMT
Noel Brotherston of Blackburn and Northern Ireland had the most unique barnet of the time. Tight curls that prevented a comb over then as he aged the balding went straight through the middle with two banks of hair either side a bit like a railway cutting look if you like. Sad to read that he was just 38 when he died and worked as a painter and decorator in Blackburn when he finished playing. Great little winger . Had the egg in the nest look I always remember an 80 s band, Blancmange on the Tube.. Obviously from Blackburn as chose Noel Brotherson as their hero and one of them told his Mum to get the potato pie on and going home after the show |
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Post by Gods on Oct 12, 2024 10:08:39 GMT
Noel Brotherston of Blackburn and Northern Ireland had the most unique barnet of the time. Tight curls that prevented a comb over then as he aged the balding went straight through the middle with two banks of hair either side a bit like a railway cutting look if you like. Sad to read that he was just 38 when he died and worked as a painter and decorator in Blackburn when he finished playing. Great little winger . Had the egg in the nest look I always remember an 80 s band, Blancmange on the Tube.. Obviously from Blackburn as chose Noel Brotherson as their hero and one of them told his Mum to get the potato pie on and going home after the show 'Waves' was a fantastic track, an absolute belter! |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 12, 2024 10:29:34 GMT
Great little winger . Had the egg in the nest look I always remember an 80 s band, Blancmange on the Tube.. Obviously from Blackburn as chose Noel Brotherson as their hero and one of them told his Mum to get the potato pie on and going home after the show 'Waves' was a fantastic track, an absolute belter! They were like a gritty Pet Shop Boys but liked girls, football and pie. |
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