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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2024 1:35:13 GMT
In a cup game, if a lower league club goes away to play a premier league club, the lower club gets a bill of 9 and a half grand for VAR costs. The FA deduct it from their match fee. Appalling.
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Post by pretzel on Oct 10, 2024 6:40:08 GMT
Disgraceful
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Post by thornestein on Oct 10, 2024 6:49:39 GMT
In a cup game, if a lower league club goes away to play a premier league club, the lower club gets a bill of 9 and a half grand for VAR costs. The FA deduct it from their match fee. Appalling. so they’re saying Var costs 19K per game , utter bollocks |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2024 7:04:44 GMT
In a cup game, if a lower league club goes away to play a premier league club, the lower club gets a bill of 9 and a half grand for VAR costs. The FA deduct it from their match fee. Appalling. so they’re saying Var costs 19K per game , utter bollocks Apparently. Lots of skilled people using the technology. Lots of var specific cameras and equipment. 19000 quid. Bloody hell. |
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Post by tuum on Oct 10, 2024 7:51:03 GMT
Gravy train. Like any new idea there are a whole load of 'consultants' charging daft rates.
I work in construction and the amount of networking done by advocates of different forms of contract around the globe is breathtaking. All expenses paid to do a presentation on the latest update to the latest form. Meet the same people on the same gravy train.
AWP is currently in vogue. It is about how to execute more efficiently. Research done by two universities in California and Texas. Next the researchers from the two universities set up online training companies, lobby their mates to ensure you need certification to demonstrate your competence. Sell you the training online. Renew certification by training every two years. Write a book. Update research and training courses. Repeat the cycle. It's a well worn path for all those people who never actually do any projects or construction.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Oct 10, 2024 8:30:30 GMT
Wants fucking off.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 10, 2024 8:36:14 GMT
so they’re saying Var costs 19K per game , utter bollocks Apparently. Lots of skilled people using the technology. Lots of var specific cameras and equipment. 19000 quid. Bloody hell. someone’s ripping them off |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 10, 2024 8:36:18 GMT
It's ludicrous that it's used in the FA Cup for some games but not others.
Mental.
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Post by eddyclamp on Oct 10, 2024 9:05:40 GMT
just dont use it, its the same for all teams then.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2024 9:05:58 GMT
Apparently. Lots of skilled people using the technology. Lots of var specific cameras and equipment. 19000 quid. Bloody hell. someone’s ripping them off Var is the biggest bollox rip off of all in so many ways |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 10, 2024 20:21:03 GMT
VAR coming to the championship soon in some form or other. Gouranga.  |
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Post by desman2 on Oct 11, 2024 8:23:49 GMT
Why should a club have the use of VAR just because they are in the premier league. It should be all or none in what's basically an open competition. It leaves it wide open to accusations of the FA etc using it to manipulate a game in favour of the premier league club. Can't devalue the competition in favour of a giant killer can we. Just wouldn't be cricket.
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 11, 2024 9:26:37 GMT
Gravy train. Like any new idea there are a whole load of 'consultants' charging daft rates. I work in construction and the amount of networking done by advocates of different forms of contract around the globe is breathtaking. All expenses paid to do a presentation on the latest update to the latest form. Meet the same people on the same gravy train. AWP is currently in vogue. It is about how to execute more efficiently. Research done by two universities in California and Texas. Next the researchers from the two universities set up online training companies, lobby their mates to ensure you need certification to demonstrate your competence. Sell you the training online. Renew certification by training every two years. Write a book. Update research and training courses. Repeat the cycle. It's a well worn path for all those people who never actually do any projects or construction. Nowadays you have to go on a week long course on how to use ladders.The course costs an arm and a leg too.Somebody will be making a very good living out of it. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 11, 2024 11:23:19 GMT
It's ludicrous that it's used in the FA Cup for some games but not others. Mental. There’s nothing that makes it ludicrous imo. It’s a technicality of the way a game is officiated, the rules are the same and it favours no one whether you do or don’t have it. It makes no difference. I’d love to see the reaction if, say, Exeter had a goal wrongly flagged offside at the Etihad and Man City went through because, despite having a stadium equipped with up-to-the-minute VAR technology, they were obliged to switch it off for that game. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 11, 2024 11:48:18 GMT
It's ludicrous that it's used in the FA Cup for some games but not others. Mental. There’s nothing that makes it ludicrous imo. It’s a technicality of the way a game is officiated, the rules are the same and it favours no one whether you do or don’t have it. It makes no difference. I’d love to see the reaction if, say, Exeter had a goal wrongly flagged offside at the Etihad and Man City went through because, despite having a stadium equipped with up-to-the-minute VAR technology, they were obliged to switch it off for that game. That would be tough luck. Having a competition where you have different refereeing standards for different games is ludicrous. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 11, 2024 12:41:41 GMT
There’s nothing that makes it ludicrous imo. It’s a technicality of the way a game is officiated, the rules are the same and it favours no one whether you do or don’t have it. It makes no difference. I’d love to see the reaction if, say, Exeter had a goal wrongly flagged offside at the Etihad and Man City went through because, despite having a stadium equipped with up-to-the-minute VAR technology, they were obliged to switch it off for that game. That would be tough luck. Having a competition where you have different refereeing standards for different games is ludicrous. Different "standards" isn't an accurate way to describe it. The standards are the same, just like the rules, and the on-field ref makes the final call. You haven't really explained exactly what it is that you think is "ludicrous" (nobody ever does when this point is made). VAR is a technological option which helps the referee officiate.. some stadia have it and some don't. It's not really any more consequential than whether or not he wears a headset to communicate with his assistants. And indeed, in the event of some technical problem with the system or one of the officials is incapacitated for some reason, they don't suddenly abandon the game because there's no VAR, they just go on without it. It's not that big a deal. I genuinely don't get what you think is ludicrous about it, especially when you're happy to accept "tough luck" as a part of the game anyway. Your luck is the same whether you have VAR or not. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 11, 2024 14:24:20 GMT
That would be tough luck. Having a competition where you have different refereeing standards for different games is ludicrous. Different "standards" isn't an accurate way to describe it. The standards are the same, just like the rules, and the on-field ref makes the final call. You haven't really explained exactly what it is that you think is "ludicrous" (nobody ever does when this point is made). VAR is a technological option which helps the referee officiate.. some stadia have it and some don't. It's not really any more consequential than whether or not he wears a headset to communicate with his assistants. And indeed, in the event of some technical problem with the system or one of the officials is incapacitated for some reason, they don't suddenly abandon the game because there's no VAR, they just go on without it. It's not that big a deal. I genuinely don't get what you think is ludicrous about it, especially when you're happy to accept "tough luck" as a part of the game anyway. Your luck is the same whether you have VAR or not. Because some teams get decisions reviewed and some don't. It's just not a level playing field. Happy to agree to disagree. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 11, 2024 14:52:43 GMT
Different "standards" isn't an accurate way to describe it. The standards are the same, just like the rules, and the on-field ref makes the final call. You haven't really explained exactly what it is that you think is "ludicrous" (nobody ever does when this point is made). VAR is a technological option which helps the referee officiate.. some stadia have it and some don't. It's not really any more consequential than whether or not he wears a headset to communicate with his assistants. And indeed, in the event of some technical problem with the system or one of the officials is incapacitated for some reason, they don't suddenly abandon the game because there's no VAR, they just go on without it. It's not that big a deal. I genuinely don't get what you think is ludicrous about it, especially when you're happy to accept "tough luck" as a part of the game anyway. Your luck is the same whether you have VAR or not. Because some teams get decisions reviewed and some don't. It's just not a level playing field. Happy to agree to disagree. I think to say it's not a level playing field you have to be able to point to who is at the top of the slope and who is kicking uphill - and the answer is nobody, because it doesn't favour anyone in particular. Any team could benefit (or not) from having VAR (or not). But fair enough I'll not labour the debate any more  edit - on Joe's original point, now that is ludicrous! |
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Post by oldschool on Oct 11, 2024 19:14:28 GMT
There’s nothing that makes it ludicrous imo. It’s a technicality of the way a game is officiated, the rules are the same and it favours no one whether you do or don’t have it. It makes no difference. I’d love to see the reaction if, say, Exeter had a goal wrongly flagged offside at the Etihad and Man City went through because, despite having a stadium equipped with up-to-the-minute VAR technology, they were obliged to switch it off for that game. That would be tough luck. Having a competition where you have different refereeing standards for different games is ludicrous. Not sure this point is hugely accurate. The premier league has a better standard of referring than the championship. A championship ref cannot referee a game that involves teams above their league ie a game involving wolves. So our games up til now have involved a shitter standard of referee. To your point, that would also make this ludicrous, right? |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 11, 2024 21:01:39 GMT
That would be tough luck. Having a competition where you have different refereeing standards for different games is ludicrous. Not sure this point is hugely accurate. The premier league has a better standard of referring than the championship. A championship ref cannot referee a game that involves teams above their league ie a game involving wolves. So our games up til now have involved a shitter standard of referee. To your point, that would also make this ludicrous, right? Didn't know that and it doesn't seem fair. And you wouldn't feel it was ludicrous if a few teams in the Championship had var but the rest didn't? |
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