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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 7, 2024 13:46:52 GMT
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Post by Gods on Oct 7, 2024 13:49:47 GMT
Does it mean we can over-charge Bet365 for the shirt and stadium sponsorships and generate some additional cash to spend on players that way?
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Post by sportsman on Oct 7, 2024 13:50:37 GMT
I wonder if it suites the premier league more to lose this in the long term. If they would have won their crown jewel would have gone right down. Now they and others can probably spend more which is good for the premier league
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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 7, 2024 13:53:57 GMT
Does it mean we can over-charge Bet365 for the shirt and stadium sponsorships and generate some additional cash to spend on players that way? Exactly, rendering ffp futile. |
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Post by sportsman on Oct 7, 2024 13:56:45 GMT
Does it mean we can over-charge Bet365 for the shirt and stadium sponsorships and generate some additional cash to spend on players that way? They’ll probably close a loop hole just applying to Stoke |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2024 13:59:18 GMT
Does it mean we can over-charge Bet365 for the shirt and stadium sponsorships and generate some additional cash to spend on players that way? Exactly, rendering ffp futile. They'll ban betting sponsorship first  |
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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 7, 2024 14:00:08 GMT
“ Within the ruling it also emerged that Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, and West Ham gave evidence in favour of the Premier League, along with Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, and Wolves.”
Big clubs who don’t want outside investment to compete with them and mostly wankey clubs likely to yo-yo who don’t want the rest of the championship competing with them financially when they inevitably plummet. Fairly transparent
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 7, 2024 14:03:48 GMT
Quite a performance from Man City, win that ruling whilst their main rivals could be doing some unlawful.
Haaland whacking the ball on Salibas head would fit quite well with that if it’s being read out in the news.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2024 14:04:46 GMT
“ Within the ruling it also emerged that Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, and West Ham gave evidence in favour of the Premier League, along with Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, and Wolves.” Big clubs who don’t want outside investment to compete with them and mostly wankey clubs likely to yo-yo who don’t want the rest of the championship competing with them financially when they inevitably plummet. Fairly transparent You do realise we are a wanky yo-yo club? We would have definitely been one of clubs giving evidence in favour of the PL if we were still in the league. |
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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 7, 2024 14:09:28 GMT
“ Within the ruling it also emerged that Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, and West Ham gave evidence in favour of the Premier League, along with Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, and Wolves.” Big clubs who don’t want outside investment to compete with them and mostly wankey clubs likely to yo-yo who don’t want the rest of the championship competing with them financially when they inevitably plummet. Fairly transparent You do realise we are a wanky yo-yo club? We would have definitely been one of clubs giving evidence in favour of the PL if we were still in the league. Not of the ilk of Bournemouth Fulham and Brentford no we're not and I Disagree as I think our owners actually see the bigger picture and aren't as short sighted as that. |
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 7, 2024 14:18:40 GMT
Capitalism - justice only for the rich. Whoever can afford the best lawyers wins.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2024 14:29:27 GMT
You do realise we are a wanky yo-yo club? We would have definitely been one of clubs giving evidence in favour of the PL if we were still in the league. Not of the ilk of Bournemouth Fulham and Brentford no we're not and I Disagree as I think our owners actually see the bigger picture and aren't as short sighted as that. What's the bigger picture? Sustainability? |
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Post by roscoepcoltrane on Oct 7, 2024 14:38:38 GMT
Not of the ilk of Bournemouth Fulham and Brentford no we're not and I Disagree as I think our owners actually see the bigger picture and aren't as short sighted as that. What's the bigger picture? Sustainability? Agreed if the vote was 15 years ago and Stoke were only sustainable by PL cash. Bigger picture being we do now have the money to blow those clubs out of the water should the Coates family want too. We aren’t where we used to be. I’d view it similar to Chelsea pre abramovich with Ken Bates. |
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Post by anchorman on Oct 7, 2024 14:44:31 GMT
Manchester City were never going to lose & the Premier League will be celebrating "losing"..... The Prem is a brand and Citeh are currently the leading player in that brand.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2024 14:45:31 GMT
What's the bigger picture? Sustainability? Agreed if the vote was 15 years ago and Stoke were only sustainable by PL cash. Bigger picture being we do now have the money to blow those clubs out of the water should the Coates family want too. We aren’t where we used to be. I’d view it similar to Chelsea pre abramovich with Ken Bates. They had money to spend and spent it. Then turned the tap off in the name of sustainability. Then realised, too late, that they'd fucked it up and started panic spending. You can't honestly believe they'd spend the mega mega money (which would be needed) if we got back? |
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 7, 2024 15:04:45 GMT
Capitalism - justice only for the rich. Whoever can afford the best lawyers wins. There should be no such thing as a “best” lawyer. Just like comprehensives should provide the same standards of teaching as a private school. Frankly if you’re not good enough to win a case, you shouldn’t be a lawyer. |
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Post by upthefud on Oct 7, 2024 15:11:17 GMT
Great news
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2024 15:12:53 GMT
Capitalism - justice only for the rich. Whoever can afford the best lawyers wins. There should be no such thing as a “best” lawyer. Just like comprehensives should provide the same standards of teaching as a private school. Frankly if you’re not good enough to win a case, you shouldn’t be a lawyer. Are you from the BO school of penalty taking? |
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Post by roscoepcoltrane on Oct 7, 2024 15:13:02 GMT
Agreed if the vote was 15 years ago and Stoke were only sustainable by PL cash. Bigger picture being we do now have the money to blow those clubs out of the water should the Coates family want too. We aren’t where we used to be. I’d view it similar to Chelsea pre abramovich with Ken Bates. They had money to spend and spent it. Then turned the tap off in the name of sustainability. Then realised, too late, that they'd fucked it up and started panic spendi You can't honestly believe they'd spend the mega mega money (which would be needed) if we got back? Maybe it’s hope over experience but I think they would. They desperately want to be up there again. PC ain’t getting any younger and DC/JC have the wherewithal to give him his dream. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2024 15:16:47 GMT
They had money to spend and spent it. Then turned the tap off in the name of sustainability. Then realised, too late, that they'd fucked it up and started panic spendi You can't honestly believe they'd spend the mega mega money (which would be needed) if we got back? Maybe it’s hope over experience but I think they would. They desperately want to be up there again. PC ain’t getting any younger and DC/PC have the wherewithal to give him his dream. He lived his dream then tried to dream on the cheap. And look where we are. Hope you're right though. |
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 7, 2024 15:36:19 GMT
Not all media are reporting this as a Manchester City win though?
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Post by roscoepcoltrane on Oct 7, 2024 15:38:30 GMT
Maybe it’s hope over experience but I think they would. They desperately want to be up there again. PC ain’t getting any younger and DC/PC have the wherewithal to give him his dream. He lived his dream then tried to dream on the cheap. And look where we are. Hope you're right though. Fingers crossed, buddy, we all want the same thing really just I suppose all think differently about how it’s gonna be achieved. Completely agree about sustainability thing. Said for years that buying dogs home players wasn’t sustainable. One in three players that are actively recruited and cost lots of money work out. It must be closer to one in 10 for dogs home players. How they couldn’t see that is an absolute mystery to me as it was at the time. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 7, 2024 15:52:47 GMT
Not all media are reporting this as a Manchester City win though?
"These elements can quickly and effectively be remedied by the League and clubs." [Sky news]
So, if they fix these 'elements' does that mean it's back to square 1? |
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 7, 2024 16:06:57 GMT
I cant see how this is going to make any difference to Stoke?
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 7, 2024 16:09:16 GMT
“ Within the ruling it also emerged that Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, and West Ham gave evidence in favour of the Premier League, along with Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, and Wolves.” Big clubs who don’t want outside investment to compete with them and mostly wankey clubs likely to yo-yo who don’t want the rest of the championship competing with them financially when they inevitably plummet. Fairly transparent Which is a description of virtually every other team in the PL, as well as those aspiring to get into it? |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Oct 7, 2024 16:31:05 GMT
So we can go and get Klopp in, chuck him 2 billion out of Denise's loose change and Bobs y'uncle and Fanny's y'auntie.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 7, 2024 16:38:29 GMT
So we can go and get Klopp in, chuck him 2 billion out of Denise's loose change and Bobs y'uncle and Fanny's y'auntie. Not if he's gonna play that inverted wing back shite 😉 |
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 7, 2024 16:50:32 GMT
I think people are missing the very very small print where is say it only applies to very rich Arab owners providing the team is in the Premier league.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 7, 2024 17:12:56 GMT
Errr...no. it's a very specific rule, it doesn't undermine the core principle of FFP at all and Man City are still facing sanction for breaching rules that have nothing to do with this ruling. |
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Post by jokker on Oct 7, 2024 17:21:34 GMT
"Premier League says verdict is in essence a victory for it, because it “upheld the need for the APT system as a whole and rejected the majority of Manchester City’s challenges”. The league said it planned to “quickly and effectively” adjust its rulebook in discussion with its shareholder clubs"
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