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Post by loustokiefc on Oct 4, 2024 1:42:46 GMT
Anyone else watched Sam Gallagher’s ruled out goal back? That has to be one of the worst officiating decisions i’ve seen. Its not even close. Two Portsmouth defenders keep him on. Even so, its not even a tight one. Ridiculous 🤣
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 4, 2024 1:57:52 GMT
Anyone else watched Sam Gallagher’s ruled out goal back? That has to be one of the worst officiating decisions i’ve seen. Its not even close. Two Portsmouth defenders keep him on. Even so, its not even a tight one. Ridiculous 🤣 It’s the definition of a tight one 🤣 he looks level but his boot could easily be ahead and there’s no clear angle that shows it conclusively either way |
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Post by dirtclod on Oct 4, 2024 2:07:58 GMT
Is this another one of those "his right big toenail was offside"?
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 4, 2024 2:14:43 GMT
Anyone else watched Sam Gallagher’s ruled out goal back? That has to be one of the worst officiating decisions i’ve seen. Its not even close. Two Portsmouth defenders keep him on. Even so, its not even a tight one. Ridiculous 🤣 100% |
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Post by ceejays on Oct 4, 2024 3:36:31 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it
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Post by 36dd on Oct 4, 2024 3:43:48 GMT
The positive side to the offside goal was the clinical finish by Gallagher before it was ruled out.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 4, 2024 6:25:43 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it It was a stone wall penalty |
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Post by stokefanone on Oct 4, 2024 6:57:26 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it It was a foul, the keeper caught the man not the ball, but they are not usually given in the box? |
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2024 7:04:46 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it It was a stone wall penalty Watching it live was amazed it was a penalty Seen the replay yup stonewall Thought the offside goal was inside but it was a close one |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 4, 2024 7:07:18 GMT
Looked pretty tight to me but didn’t see all angles. Clinical finish mind. He really was superb.
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Post by a on Oct 4, 2024 7:11:50 GMT
That’s a tight call, definitely not miles on or off
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 4, 2024 7:12:57 GMT
That’s a tight call, definitely not miles on or off Looks on from that angle |
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Post by a on Oct 4, 2024 7:14:49 GMT
That’s a tight call, definitely not miles on or off Looks on from that angle I think he is just about on too But I can see why it might be given as offside, it’s marginal imo |
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Post by questionable on Oct 4, 2024 7:42:08 GMT
It was a stone wall penalty Watching it live was amazed it was a penalty Seen the replay yup stonewall Thought the offside goal was inside but it was a close one Same here I was stunned when he awarded the penalty but on closer inspection their keeper made no attempt to take the ball, there was also little if any objection from their players which is a telling sign. |
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Post by stokienorthants on Oct 4, 2024 7:44:25 GMT
Is this another one of those "his right big toenail was offside"? If you’re offside you’re offside, just as you can’t be a little bit pregnant. |
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Post by apb1 on Oct 4, 2024 7:47:53 GMT
Watching it live was amazed it was a penalty Seen the replay yup stonewall Thought the offside goal was inside but it was a close one Same here I was stunned when he awarded the penalty but on closer inspection their keeper made no attempt to take the ball, there was also little if any objection from their players which is a telling sign. They were both sliding in and collided, much less clear cut than if he'd touched it round the keeper while still on his feet. I think I'd have been miffed if it had been given against us. Their resigned reaction was probably due to shell shock from our pre half time blitz. Anyway about time we got a contentious one our way. The 'offside' goal reminded me of Bojan's v Arsenal in how long it took for the - wrong - decision to sink in both times. I still can't forgive that little prick of a ref for ruining our chance to properly spank those wankers. |
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Post by redstriper on Oct 4, 2024 7:50:22 GMT
That’s a tight call, definitely not miles on or off Looks onside, closer than I thought at the time admittedly, but onside. Should never have been ruled out and could have been so important in the context of our season, fortunately it wasn't. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 4, 2024 9:00:59 GMT
Given the two we've had go against us in recent weeks, it's onside all day.
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 4, 2024 9:07:06 GMT
The old rule was far simpler, if you were in an offside position anywhere on the pitch you were offside
In trying to make it more realistic and fair it has become more complicated. Now you have to receive the ball having been in an offside position or otherwise be interfering with play.
This means that the linesman instead of immediately raising the flag for offside when the ball is passed to the player, has to wait until he receives it. Of course by this stage he will have moved.
This is a more difficult decision to make and easier to get wrong as you need to watch both players at once rather than concentrate on the receiving player with the passing player in your peripheral vision.
That said, mistakes are made and as much as I hate VAR for its disruption and overuse, it can be useful for important decisions such as goals,penalties and sending offs.
In athletics in a race its the chest that counts in a photo finish and it should be the chest in football for offsides.
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Post by mattythestokie on Oct 4, 2024 9:21:49 GMT
His run and Cannons run seemed to be a carbon copy of each other in terms of timing.
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2024 9:26:22 GMT
Same here I was stunned when he awarded the penalty but on closer inspection their keeper made no attempt to take the ball, there was also little if any objection from their players which is a telling sign. They were both sliding in and collided, much less clear cut than if he'd touched it round the keeper while still on his feet. I think I'd have been miffed if it had been given against us. Their resigned reaction was probably due to shell shock from our pre half time blitz. Anyway about time we got a contentious one our way. The 'offside' goal reminded me of Bojan's v Arsenal in how long it took for the - wrong - decision to sink in both times. I still can't forgive that little prick of a ref for ruining our chance to properly spank those wankers. having seen the replay from two angles its a stonewaller, keeper takes him out nowhere near the ball seeing it live & from first replay cant see that at all, replay from behind the goal is very clear, great refereeing |
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Post by lordb on Oct 4, 2024 9:28:45 GMT
The old rule was far simpler, if you were in an offside position anywhere on the pitch you were offside In trying to make it more realistic and fair it has become more complicated. Now you have to receive the ball having been in an offside position or otherwise be interfering with play. This means that the linesman instead of immediately raising the flag for offside when the ball is passed to the player, has to wait until he receives it. Of course by this stage he will have moved. This is a more difficult decision to make and easier to get wrong as you need to watch both players at once rather than concentrate on the receiving player with the passing player in your peripheral vision. That said, mistakes are made and as much as I hate VAR for its disruption and overuse, it can be useful for important decisions such as goals,penalties and sending offs. In athletics in a race its the chest that counts in a photo finish and it should be the chest in football for offsides. 'if you were in an offside position anywhere on the pitch you were offside ' year that was the old rule & it was much simpler but it was also rubbish as players absolutely nowhere near the action were given offside VAR is appalling however tech re offsides if they can perfect it or at least make it pretty good could be a winner |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 4, 2024 9:44:47 GMT
The old rule was far simpler, if you were in an offside position anywhere on the pitch you were offside In trying to make it more realistic and fair it has become more complicated. Now you have to receive the ball having been in an offside position or otherwise be interfering with play. This means that the linesman instead of immediately raising the flag for offside when the ball is passed to the player, has to wait until he receives it. Of course by this stage he will have moved. ***This is a more difficult decision to make and easier to get wrong as you need to watch both players at once rather than concentrate on the receiving player with the passing player in your peripheral vision.*** That said, mistakes are made and as much as I hate VAR for its disruption and overuse, it can be useful for important decisions such as goals,penalties and sending offs. In athletics in a race its the chest that counts in a photo finish and it should be the chest in football for offsides. Don’t understand your 4th paragraph here - offside has always been based on the player’s position at the moment the ball is played. All the lino does is delay for longer to make sure the receiving player becomes involved in active play, but that doesn’t mean he’s focussing on anything different at the moment of the offence itself |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 4, 2024 9:49:25 GMT
The old rule was far simpler, if you were in an offside position anywhere on the pitch you were offside In trying to make it more realistic and fair it has become more complicated. Now you have to receive the ball having been in an offside position or otherwise be interfering with play. This means that the linesman instead of immediately raising the flag for offside when the ball is passed to the player, has to wait until he receives it. Of course by this stage he will have moved. This is a more difficult decision to make and easier to get wrong as you need to watch both players at once rather than concentrate on the receiving player with the passing player in your peripheral vision. That said, mistakes are made and as much as I hate VAR for its disruption and overuse, it can be useful for important decisions such as goals,penalties and sending offs. In athletics in a race its the chest that counts in a photo finish and it should be the chest in football for offsides. It wasn't the rule. The rule was if you interfering with play. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 4, 2024 10:47:26 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it It was a stone wall penalty If an outfield player had made that tackle, two footed and uncontrolled, they could have had a red card |
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 4, 2024 10:50:50 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it I would be going mental if that pen was given against us!!! |
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 4, 2024 11:55:39 GMT
The old rule was far simpler, if you were in an offside position anywhere on the pitch you were offside In trying to make it more realistic and fair it has become more complicated. Now you have to receive the ball having been in an offside position or otherwise be interfering with play. This means that the linesman instead of immediately raising the flag for offside when the ball is passed to the player, has to wait until he receives it. Of course by this stage he will have moved. This is a more difficult decision to make and easier to get wrong as you need to watch both players at once rather than concentrate on the receiving player with the passing player in your peripheral vision. That said, mistakes are made and as much as I hate VAR for its disruption and overuse, it can be useful for important decisions such as goals,penalties and sending offs. In athletics in a race its the chest that counts in a photo finish and it should be the chest in football for offsides. It wasn't the rule. The rule was if you interfering with play. That did come later to be fair |
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 4, 2024 11:59:48 GMT
It was a stone wall penalty Watching it live was amazed it was a penalty Seen the replay yup stonewall Thought the offside goal was inside but it was a close one Interesting that, where do you sit? I sit in the boothen, and it looked like Cannon got there first to me, I had probably the same line of sight as the ref (but 100m further away), who at first seemed to point for a foul on the keeper, and reach for his top pocket, before changing his mind. So perhaps the lineman gave it. |
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Post by AlliG on Oct 4, 2024 12:10:55 GMT
It wasn't the rule. The rule was if you interfering with play. That did come later to be fair The explanation when the 2 player off-side Law was introduced was as follows: "When a player plays the ball, any player of the same side who at such moment of playing is nearer to his opponents' goal-line is out of play, and may not touch the ball himself, nor in any way whatever interfere with an opponent, or with the play, until the ball has been again played, unless there are at such moment of playing at least two [previously three] of his opponents nearer their own goal-line" It would seem that "interfering with play" has been in force for the best part of 100 years and maybe longer (I haven't looked at the 3 player off-side Law) The big change over the years has been the interpretation of "interfering" to where we now have a very narrow definition. There is the famous 1970/71 Leeds v West Brom game where "interfering with play" nearly clause a riot.  |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Oct 4, 2024 12:11:50 GMT
Perhaps we got a penalty to compensate ? From where I was sitting I couldn’t see how it was a penalty but I’ll take it It was a stone wall penalty Keeper shits the bed and goes feet first, misses the ball and takes the man. anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick and a yellow. |
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