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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 24, 2024 20:15:15 GMT
We lost several players with long term injuries. Wasn't It 3 keepers at one stage? I think had we beaten Norwich we would have gone top at one time. Poor bloke was cursed with injuries We lost Angus Gunn and Adam Davies to long term injury at the same time. I think he went more defensive at that time because we had to protect Bursik who was pretty hopeless. We 100% went backs to the wall to protect Bursik. Basically any decent low shot beat him. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 24, 2024 20:19:49 GMT
Still don't have a bad word to say about him. He didn't get all the breaks. But managed to keep our head above water. I wish him well and always welcome back.
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 24, 2024 20:50:34 GMT
He didn’t handle things well after the Campbell injury.
Unable to re-apt the team and keep momentum going.
I don’t think he did anything wrong, just lost the mojo!
It’s a pity, May have gone up that season?
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 24, 2024 21:21:33 GMT
Two lovely stats from the MON era.
His first 12 months in charge we amassed something like 84 points which was the 3rd highest in the championship (maybe the country?)
There was a period in the season we signed baker where we’d scored the most goals from outside the box in the whole of Europe.
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Post by lordb on Sept 24, 2024 21:58:18 GMT
Both of his full seasons were good until injuries/winter, both had huge drop offs in form and results
When he first came in he was very flexible tactically which worked well
He engineered a squad to play wing backs and got far too stubborn with it
Would have him back to replace Walters tomorrow
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Sept 24, 2024 22:01:56 GMT
Suffered a horrific spat of injuries and had form that was split over two seasons rather than 1, but in that year we accumulated close to 90 points in the equivalent of a season. His rescue act post Jones is a pretty underrated achievement, we were buried when he took over. with a third of the season gone.
I still stand by the belief he should have gone at the end of 21/22 and giving him a preseason and window and then sacking him 5 games in (hmmm how odd!) still doesn’t sit right with me.
I think of all the managers we’ve had since relegation he was dealt the toughest hand and managed the club as well as could be.
Have nothing but respect for him and will always wish him well.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 25, 2024 0:46:27 GMT
Lots of respect for MON
Had us playing lovely football at times and kept us up when we looked certain to go down
Think we were 2nd in the table for a brief moment
The Millwall first of season away game (can’t remember the season) game started the doubts, we were shit and it didn’t get much better after that.
It was the right decision to ditch him when we did but I really wished it worked out for him
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 25, 2024 3:07:27 GMT
Lots of respect for MON Had us playing lovely football at times and kept us up when we looked certain to go down Think we were 2nd in the table for a brief moment The Millwall first of season away game (can’t remember the season) game started the doubts, we were shit and it didn’t get much better after that. It was the right decision to ditch him when we did but I really wished it worked out for him His insistance on 5-3-2 when we didn't have the players made me want him out. Unbelievable. But that's a good post. Hard to dislike him, he did good by us until his brain farts and seems a top bloke. |
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Post by Waggy on Sept 25, 2024 4:58:57 GMT
My gripe with him was that we looked good for a few weeks playing 433 and play good football had hope then he would all of a sudden change to 5 at the back and play slow boring football. He should have kept going with the more attacking style.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2024 6:38:27 GMT
I was when Campbell got injured think it was the game against Cardiff we were winning at half time Campbell got injured and I believe at halftime we were either top or 2nd. If you look back then I’m sure we dropped like a stone down the league. He turned everything negative. Up until that point he did really well. We lost several players with long term injuries. Wasn't It 3 keepers at one stage? I think had we beaten Norwich we would have gone top at one time. Poor bloke was cursed with injuries His hip was the main one. |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2024 6:43:28 GMT
He bottled it after Campbell injury and souttar injury He had practically an entire 11 injured at one time Not sure what he bottled, he did well considering the fit players he had to work with Explain what he bottled with Campbell? He turned him from a player who had scored 1 league goal into a player who had a bit of a purple patch The number of cowards we employ is incredible 😀 |
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Post by premieraj on Sept 25, 2024 7:00:04 GMT
I felt for him really as it didn’t work but it was clear he suffered re covid and the worst of the financial restrictions didn’t he?
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Post by professorplump on Sept 25, 2024 7:00:08 GMT
MON was undoubtedly the best manager we have had since relegation although admittedly that bar is set quite low.
The likes of Baker, Powell, Brown, Campbell and Souttar all played their best football under him. In developing Collins and Souttar, he also raised a lot of money for the club which he never got to spend himself. If Campbell hadn't of picked up that injury in his first full season, we would have had a great chance of making the playoffs.
Towards the end, he looked mentally and physically exhausted. I think his ongoing hip issues and the stress of club football had ground him down and I'm not too surprised that he has gone back to international management where he seems happier.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 25, 2024 7:45:46 GMT
He had practically an entire 11 injured at one time Not sure what he bottled, he did well considering the fit players he had to work with Explain what he bottled with Campbell? He turned him from a player who had scored 1 league goal into a player who had a bit of a purple patch The number of cowards we employ is incredible 😀 Never mentioned coward at all so stop making shit up. He went from attacking football to defensive football after Campbell got injured |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2024 7:48:44 GMT
The number of cowards we employ is incredible 😀 Never mentioned coward at all so stop making shit up. He went from attacking football to defensive football after Campbell got injured So someone who bottles it isn't a coward? What are they? |
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Post by Fred Merger on Sept 25, 2024 8:22:16 GMT
Going into a full season with only Bursik and Bonham as keepers was suicidal. A decent guy who did a very good job initially just lost his way on recruitment and bad injuries to our three key players of his time here, ie Campbell, Souttar and Powell.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 25, 2024 8:38:22 GMT
Never mentioned coward at all so stop making shit up. He went from attacking football to defensive football after Campbell got injured So someone who bottles it isn't a coward? What are they? Negative. Negative with his team selections hence the drop from top 6 to bottom half. |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2024 8:55:54 GMT
So someone who bottles it isn't a coward? What are they? Negative. Negative with his team selections hence the drop from top 6 to bottom half. That's what 'bottler' means in British slang: a person who lacks the courage to go through with something. But why? It all goes back to a rather strange use of 'bottle' to mean 'bravery' or 'nerve', which has been around for nearly a century now |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 25, 2024 9:01:02 GMT
Still don't have a bad word to say about him. He didn't get all the breaks. But managed to keep our head above water. I wish him well and always welcome back. This. One of the sad things about his era was that because a large chunk of it was behind closed doors during the Covid period I always felt a bit of a disconnect between some fans and the players/management team at that time, we were all watching on laptops on the kitchen table instead of being in the stands and if you think back to those games away to Barnsley and Huddersfield, home to Sheff Wed and Hull there was great buzz around the place........ |
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 25, 2024 9:08:47 GMT
I always liked the way he spoke and handled himself. To save us from where we were after the Jones debacle, should assure him a place in Stoke folklore at the very least..He just happened to be in charge in a particularly difficult phase in our history.
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Post by miltonpotter on Sept 25, 2024 9:20:35 GMT
Worked with hardly any money, made us as competitive as possible, brought in some fantastic loan players and freebies and I know for a fact that he and the coaching staff were very well liked by the lads we had at that time. Would have liked seen how he would have done with some money to spend.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 25, 2024 9:20:42 GMT
Negative. Negative with his team selections hence the drop from top 6 to bottom half. That's what 'bottler' means in British slang: a person who lacks the courage to go through with something. But why? It all goes back to a rather strange use of 'bottle' to mean 'bravery' or 'nerve', which has been around for nearly a century now Nice copy and paste from Google 😂 It’s ok I did the same 😂 Ok the n mon turned negative 👍 |
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Post by crowey on Sept 25, 2024 10:08:19 GMT
Still don't have a bad word to say about him. He didn't get all the breaks. But managed to keep our head above water. I wish him well and always welcome back. This. One of the sad things about his era was that because a large chunk of it was behind closed doors during the Covid period I always felt a bit of a disconnect between some fans and the players/management team at that time, we were all watching on laptops on the kitchen table instead of being in the stands and if you think back to those games away to Barnsley and Huddersfield, home to Sheff Wed and Hull there was great buzz around the place........ …. the team were probably better off during the COVID lockdown as they didn’t have the crowd “not behind” then and booing 😉 |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 25, 2024 10:30:47 GMT
Never mentioned coward at all so stop making shit up. He went from attacking football to defensive football after Campbell got injured So someone who bottles it isn't a coward? What are they? He didn't bottle anything He simply lost the player who was in goalscoring form through injury |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2024 11:43:50 GMT
Still don't have a bad word to say about him. He didn't get all the breaks. But managed to keep our head above water. I wish him well and always welcome back. This. One of the sad things about his era was that because a large chunk of it was behind closed doors during the Covid period I always felt a bit of a disconnect between some fans and the players/management team at that time, we were all watching on laptops on the kitchen table instead of being in the stands and if you think back to those games away to Barnsley and Huddersfield, home to Sheff Wed and Hull there was great buzz around the place........ Barnsley and Hudds away were amazing. Wednesday at home was one of the best endings to a game I've ever seen. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 25, 2024 12:08:06 GMT
Makes you angry when you think the money spanked up the wall by Rowett & Jones,yet MON had no money to work with.
I wonder how he would have done if he'd have had that money that was wasted.
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Post by sutt on Sept 25, 2024 18:17:47 GMT
A lot for him swung on that late equaliser we conceded at Forest.
Look where they are now and where we are. Fine margins.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 25, 2024 18:26:48 GMT
Makes you angry when you think the money spanked up the wall by Rowett & Jones,yet MON had no money to work with. I wonder how he would have done if he'd have had that money that was wasted. MON spent on Brown and Surridge and we (more than?) got our money back. He played Collins and Souttar for development. No one has perfect recruitment but MON did a good job stabilising us. |
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