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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 24, 2024 8:28:39 GMT
Rowett, Jones, MoN, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach.
MoN is the stand out in that list for me, the one who gave me genuine hope back and we were actually in the top six in his last full season here in November.
What on earth went wrong for him? Why did he rip up a winning formula? I honestly can't remember, I'm still mad at him as he should have been "the one."
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 24, 2024 8:37:09 GMT
Rowett, Jones, MoN, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach. MoN is the stand out in that list for me, the one who gave me genuine hope back and we were actually in the top six in his last full season here in November. What on earth went wrong for him? Why did he rip up a winning formula? I honestly can't remember, I'm still mad at him as he should have been "the one." He bottled it after Campbell injury and souttar injury |
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Post by moon on Sept 24, 2024 8:40:37 GMT
I liked MON and we played some nice football under him at times, but things had gone very stale, he made a real mess of recruitment, and the side he left us with was the most unbalanced side in recent years. He completely neglected the defence.
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 24, 2024 8:54:10 GMT
Found his football towards the end completely uninspiring. There may well have been stuff going on, but I found the sideways and backwards passing leading to the inevitable hoof worse than any of the other managers. There just didn’t seem to be any pattern. It was weird because he started out like a breath of fresh air…..probably just the generic malaise of the club where even the very best get brought down to shabby mediocrity at best.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 24, 2024 8:56:14 GMT
Another one who died on the hill of 'possession is king'.
It's an absolute fools game.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Sept 24, 2024 8:58:07 GMT
As with Hughes, the needless switch to a back 5 (just because other teams seemed to be doing it) when everything was going swimmingly, was his downfall IMO.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 24, 2024 9:13:52 GMT
A very good safe pair of hands to steady the ship but didn’t have the personal drive and determination to push us forward once he’d steadied that ship, and kinda lost interest in the end.
Shame really a very likeable and competent man who lacks that something to operate at the very highest level.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 24, 2024 9:27:05 GMT
He'd be a perfect Sporting Director.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 24, 2024 9:45:55 GMT
A very good safe pair of hands to steady the ship but didn’t have the personal drive and determination to push us forward once he’d steadied that ship, and kinda lost interest in the end. Shame really a very likeable and competent man who lacks that something to operate at the very highest level. Lost interest or put off hip surgery that massively affected his health? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 24, 2024 10:12:45 GMT
He'd be a perfect Sporting Director. this |
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 24, 2024 10:31:36 GMT
Think he spent so much time as an underdog manager , playing constantly on the back foot with very limited players, with no real expectation. Think he didn’t know what to do when the situation was completely opposite.
Though he was a very likeable character who initially did a very good job of steadying the ship a bit.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Sept 24, 2024 12:24:59 GMT
A very good safe pair of hands to steady the ship but didn’t have the personal drive and determination to push us forward once he’d steadied that ship, and kinda lost interest in the end. Shame really a very likeable and competent man who lacks that something to operate at the very highest level. Lost interest or put off hip surgery that massively affected his health? Yes you could well be right there. I simply don’t know enough about his personal circumstances to comment on WHY he appeared to me to have lost motivation in his job. |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 24, 2024 12:35:06 GMT
He really promised to be that Lou-SAF-Ancelotti type manager - pragmatic, quiet but authoritative, trusts his players, not overly concerned with micro-managing tactics. All he had to do was keep the team positive and fearless like they were in the first year or so of his tenure. It was all there, and on F all money as well. Missed the chance to go down as a cult hero manager for us.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 24, 2024 12:40:23 GMT
He came to the club and did brilliantly clearing out the dead wood and keeping us on the right side of FFP while still keeping us in this division. As others have said, he did make some errors after that but all in all, he was a decent manager for us. Whether he could have taken further is conjecture now but like a couple of our latest managers, he was not a Nathan Jones or Lambert. I liked him personally.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 24, 2024 12:45:24 GMT
Rowett, Jones, MoN, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach. MoN is the stand out in that list for me, the one who gave me genuine hope back and we were actually in the top six in his last full season here in November. What on earth went wrong for him? Why did he rip up a winning formula? I honestly can't remember, I'm still mad at him as he should have been "the one." He bottled it after Campbell injury and souttar injury He had practically an entire 11 injured at one time Not sure what he bottled, he did well considering the fit players he had to work with Explain what he bottled with Campbell? He turned him from a player who had scored 1 league goal into a player who had a bit of a purple patch |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 24, 2024 16:07:18 GMT
He bottled it after Campbell injury and souttar injury He had practically an entire 11 injured at one time Not sure what he bottled, he did well considering the fit players he had to work with Explain what he bottled with Campbell? He turned him from a player who had scored 1 league goal into a player who had a bit of a purple patch I was when Campbell got injured think it was the game against Cardiff we were winning at half time Campbell got injured and I believe at halftime we were either top or 2nd. If you look back then I’m sure we dropped like a stone down the league. He turned everything negative. Up until that point he did really well. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 24, 2024 16:13:01 GMT
He had practically an entire 11 injured at one time Not sure what he bottled, he did well considering the fit players he had to work with Explain what he bottled with Campbell? He turned him from a player who had scored 1 league goal into a player who had a bit of a purple patch I was when Campbell got injured think it was the game against Cardiff we were winning at half time Campbell got injured and I believe at halftime we were either top or 2nd. If you look back then I’m sure we dropped like a stone down the league. He turned everything negative. Up until that point he did really well. We lost several players with long term injuries. Wasn't It 3 keepers at one stage? I think had we beaten Norwich we would have gone top at one time. Poor bloke was cursed with injuries |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 24, 2024 16:15:50 GMT
I was when Campbell got injured think it was the game against Cardiff we were winning at half time Campbell got injured and I believe at halftime we were either top or 2nd. If you look back then I’m sure we dropped like a stone down the league. He turned everything negative. Up until that point he did really well. We lost several players with long term injuries. Wasn't It 3 keepers at one stage? I think had we beaten Norwich we would have gone too at one time. Poor bloke was cursed with injuries He was I agree and I liked him although after the Campbell injury I soon realised he wasn’t the man to take us forward but yes he’s probably the best we have had since relegation. He was the longest serving one also. Maybe 2 keepers I’m not sure |
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Post by jokker on Sept 24, 2024 16:16:43 GMT
Rowett, Jones, MoN, Neil, Schumacher and Pelach. MoN is the stand out in that list for me, the one who gave me genuine hope back and we were actually in the top six in his last full season here in November. What on earth went wrong for him? Why did he rip up a winning formula? I honestly can't remember, I'm still mad at him as he should have been "the one." He bottled it after Campbell injury and souttar injury The injuries and subsequent loss of form plus lack of seriousness by Powell, his best and worst player, also ålayed a huge part. |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 24, 2024 16:19:36 GMT
I was when Campbell got injured think it was the game against Cardiff we were winning at half time Campbell got injured and I believe at halftime we were either top or 2nd. If you look back then I’m sure we dropped like a stone down the league. He turned everything negative. Up until that point he did really well. We lost several players with long term injuries. Wasn't It 3 keepers at one stage? I think had we beaten Norwich we would have gone top at one time. Poor bloke was cursed with injuries We lost Angus Gunn and Adam Davies to long term injury at the same time. I think he went more defensive at that time because we had to protect Bursik who was pretty hopeless. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 24, 2024 16:20:04 GMT
He bottled it after Campbell injury and souttar injury The omjuries and subsequent loss of form plus lack of seriousness by Powell, his best and worst player, also ålayed a huge part. Was never big on Powell myself probably due to him being inconsistent and Stoke fans rimming him. Ultimately mon went to negative line ups after the Campbell injury. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 24, 2024 16:22:28 GMT
He'd be a perfect Sporting Director. Agree. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 24, 2024 16:24:31 GMT
As others have said he would have been the ideal sporting director for us.
Surprised it didn't happen the summer before he was sacked.
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 24, 2024 16:41:30 GMT
I liked MON, was gutted when it didn’t work out.
Really likeable bloke unlike AN who was a complete piss ant.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Sept 24, 2024 17:57:19 GMT
Worked a minor miracle keeping us up when I thought we were done.
Played some really entertaining stuff and got the best out of a desultory,lopsided squad.
Then,I think like most good managers he attempted to rebuild from the back,only succeeding in leaving us almost as fragile as ever (hence the back 5 to try and shore things up by throwing bodies at it,) while simultaneously virtually neutering our creativity,hence the stale football that ensued.
A likeable man,thought he possessed a lot of integrity and decency.
Gave young players a chance and dealt with a lot of dead wood.As said above,a man to be trusted to put in place an over-arching structure for the entire football side of the club.
Gutted it didn't work out for him here as the good times were really enjoyable.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 24, 2024 18:04:00 GMT
Ran out of ideas and energy towards the end. I said the other week that someone should have taken the unusual step of sending him away on holiday for a couple of weeks. Looked ill at the end of his reign.
Agree with Sporting Director. Perfect for the role.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 24, 2024 18:07:05 GMT
The biggest thing with MON is that we could not hold onto a lead for love nor money. I think in his last full season we dropped well over 30pts from winning positions. If we'd have kept hold of those leads we'd have been promoted by Easter
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 24, 2024 18:35:29 GMT
I like MON, he's a solid manager who had a knack of being able to get a win against a team we shouldn't beat. We were always in the game with him, I'm surprised he isn't managing a Prem team because he's more than good enough. I've always believed we would be better off with him playing some sort of role in the club. He was as hands on as possible for a manager by the sounds of it too, he seemed to be carrying this club whilst he was here. He's a class act
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Post by sutt on Sept 24, 2024 19:04:51 GMT
The biggest thing with MON is that we could not hold onto a lead for love nor money. I think in his last full season we dropped well over 30pts from winning positions. If we'd have kept hold of those leads we'd have been promoted by Easter Spot on is this. Is what we always put his reign down to. Even with half of those points we’d have been in play offs. Shame because like most of the comments above I really wanted it to work out. And could have seen him being as popular as Lou. Sadly it wasn’t to be. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 24, 2024 19:11:01 GMT
He had a good first few months when he was hired.... After that, God knows!!!
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