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Phillips
Sept 18, 2024 19:19:37 GMT
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Post by kevkj on Sept 18, 2024 19:19:37 GMT
Our best defender for me.
Will he be out Friday with concussion protocols.
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Phillips
Sept 18, 2024 19:26:26 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2024 19:26:26 GMT
Yes he will
It's not clear if he will be back for the game after
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2024 21:33:38 GMT
Yes he will It's not clear if he will be back for the game after Is that for definite? I ssumed he went off as a precaution but if he gets the all clear on the follow up checks doesn't that clear him to play? |
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Phillips
Sept 18, 2024 21:37:03 GMT
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 18, 2024 21:37:03 GMT
Yes he will It's not clear if he will be back for the game after Is that for definite? I ssumed he went off as a precaution but if he gets the all clear on the follow up checks doesn't that clear him to play? Not that I remember think it happened last season to someone if you’ve gone off then you miss the next match. Hope I’m wrong |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 18, 2024 21:40:23 GMT
We made a 6th substitute which can only happen specifically when a player goes off as part of the concussion protocol, so I can't see how he won't have to miss Friday's game, as he should.......
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2024 21:40:33 GMT
Is that for definite? I ssumed he went off as a precaution but if he gets the all clear on the follow up checks doesn't that clear him to play? Not that I remember think it happened last season to someone if you’ve gone off then you miss the next match. Hope I’m wrong Ok I've no idea how they work it. It's just what I thought I remembered. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2024 21:43:42 GMT
We made a 6th substitute which can only happen specifically when a player goes off as part of the concussion protocol, so I can't see how he won't have to miss Friday's game, as he should....... I get that we'd take him off as a precaution but I thought they then did proper scan/checks the next day. Surely if they show no signs of concussion he'd be clear to play? And if they do then he quite rightly isn't. I've no idea how it actually works but that seems sensible to me. |
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 18, 2024 22:04:52 GMT
We made a 6th substitute which can only happen specifically when a player goes off as part of the concussion protocol, so I can't see how he won't have to miss Friday's game, as he should....... I get that we'd take him off as a precaution but I thought they then did proper scan/checks the next day. Surely if they show no signs of concussion he'd be clear to play? And if they do then he quite rightly isn't. I've no idea how it actually works but that seems sensible to me. yeah they definitely do tests after, it happened to Burger at Sheffield Wednesday at the end of last season, he was deemed to not have concussion and played the following game against Plymouth. That was a week after though, with this only being 3 days I suspect Phillips will miss Friday but hopefully be back for Boro |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 18, 2024 22:14:40 GMT
I get that we'd take him off as a precaution but I thought they then did proper scan/checks the next day. Surely if they show no signs of concussion he'd be clear to play? And if they do then he quite rightly isn't. I've no idea how it actually works but that seems sensible to me. yeah they definitely do tests after, it happened to Burger at Sheffield Wednesday at the end of last season, he was deemed to not have concussion and played the following game against Plymouth. That was a week after though, with this only being 3 days I suspect Phillips will miss Friday but hopefully be back for Boro I think teams have to withdraw a player if they suspect he may have concussion hence the head injury substitution law. He should then rest completely and be assessed by a health official to diagnose whether he has concussion. If he has then I think there is a compulsory 14 day period during which he cannot train or play. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2024 22:33:19 GMT
yeah they definitely do tests after, it happened to Burger at Sheffield Wednesday at the end of last season, he was deemed to not have concussion and played the following game against Plymouth. That was a week after though, with this only being 3 days I suspect Phillips will miss Friday but hopefully be back for Boro I think teams have to withdraw a player if they suspect he may have concussion hence the head injury substitution law. He should then rest completely and be assessed by a health official to diagnose whether he has concussion. If he has then I think there is a compulsory 14 day period during which he cannot train or play. But if the tests show he doesn't have concussion then surely he's clear to play straight away? |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 18, 2024 23:26:24 GMT
I think teams have to withdraw a player if they suspect he may have concussion hence the head injury substitution law. He should then rest completely and be assessed by a health official to diagnose whether he has concussion. If he has then I think there is a compulsory 14 day period during which he cannot train or play. But if the tests show he doesn't have concussion then surely he's clear to play straight away? I assume so but can't find confirmation. There may be some preventative guidance about resting even in the case of no diagnosis but having had suspected concussion but I can't imagine they have to sit out for two weeks. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 19, 2024 0:46:43 GMT
I think teams have to withdraw a player if they suspect he may have concussion hence the head injury substitution law. He should then rest completely and be assessed by a health official to diagnose whether he has concussion. If he has then I think there is a compulsory 14 day period during which he cannot train or play. But if the tests show he doesn't have concussion then surely he's clear to play straight away? Seems like that could be hacked though? If you could fake a concussion to get a sixth sub. You know arsenal would be all over that. |
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Post by Marchin’ Already on Sept 19, 2024 5:26:59 GMT
I think they have to show no signs of concussion for 48hrs, then once cleared they can join back in, pretty sure that’s what happened to burger last year.
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 20, 2024 5:56:25 GMT
Yes he will It's not clear if he will be back for the game after He was a concussion sub wasn’t he? So so I think it’s 2 weeks he won’t be available for. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 20, 2024 8:38:22 GMT
Yes he will It's not clear if he will be back for the game after He was a concussion sub wasn’t he? So so I think it’s 2 weeks he won’t be available for. that doesn't appear to be clear either |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 20, 2024 8:54:39 GMT
We made a 6th substitute which can only happen specifically when a player goes off as part of the concussion protocol, so I can't see how he won't have to miss Friday's game, as he should....... I get that we'd take him off as a precaution but I thought they then did proper scan/checks the next day. Surely if they show no signs of concussion he'd be clear to play? And if they do then he quite rightly isn't. I've no idea how it actually works but that seems sensible to me. Wouldn't clubs use it to get an extra sub on? I remember all the hoo har about concussion and immediately players started holding their heads for anything in order to stop the game. |
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Phillips
Sept 20, 2024 8:55:32 GMT
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Post by premieraj on Sept 20, 2024 8:55:32 GMT
We don’t know re presser not released yet and no comments on line re injuries.
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Phillips
Sept 20, 2024 10:15:46 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 20, 2024 10:15:46 GMT
I get that we'd take him off as a precaution but I thought they then did proper scan/checks the next day. Surely if they show no signs of concussion he'd be clear to play? And if they do then he quite rightly isn't. I've no idea how it actually works but that seems sensible to me. Wouldn't clubs use it to get an extra sub on? I remember all the hoo har about concussion and immediately players started holding their heads for anything in order to stop the game. Yeah I don’t know mate. It could as you say be abused in that way. |
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Post by karl on Sept 20, 2024 10:27:36 GMT
If it was a concussion he will miss the game tonight.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 20, 2024 10:44:34 GMT
He was a concussion sub wasn’t he? So so I think it’s 2 weeks he won’t be available for. that doesn't appear to be clear either I think concussion subs were introduced not for obvious cases of concussion but for when the medical people can't be sure and the manager has used all his subs so they keep the player on rather than going down to ten men. It was saying if you think there is a chance a player is concussed because of the nature of the impact, then be safe and take them off. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 20, 2024 10:46:45 GMT
I get that we'd take him off as a precaution but I thought they then did proper scan/checks the next day. Surely if they show no signs of concussion he'd be clear to play? And if they do then he quite rightly isn't. I've no idea how it actually works but that seems sensible to me. Wouldn't clubs use it to get an extra sub on? I remember all the hoo har about concussion and immediately players started holding their heads for anything in order to stop the game. With five permissable subs I don't really think that scenario would arise very often now and the ref has to think it may be concussion too. You can't be too cautious with head injuries as symptoms don't always show up immediately. |
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Phillips
Sept 20, 2024 10:59:30 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 20, 2024 10:59:30 GMT
Wouldn't clubs use it to get an extra sub on? I remember all the hoo har about concussion and immediately players started holding their heads for anything in order to stop the game. With five permissable subs I don't really think that scenario would arise very often now and the ref has to think it may be concussion too. You can't be too cautious with head injuries as symptoms don't always show up immediately. I think you're underestimating the lengths people will go to to win a football match! |
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