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Post by baconburger on Sept 30, 2024 20:17:59 GMT
The team is getting worse & fast The Middlesbrough defeat was no worse than the Oxford or Watford ones. The Hull game could have been different if we'd taken one of our chances first half when we were dominant. People are going way overboard...... Is that in terms of just an outcome?? The Middlesboro game is the first game for quite a while where I've been completely repulsed by what we were trying to do since Gally was caretaker.
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Post by davethebass on Sept 30, 2024 22:09:53 GMT
Next you're going to try to tell me the earth is round! Madness! It's more like a sphere To be exact, it's an oblate spheroid
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Post by davethebass on Sept 30, 2024 22:12:10 GMT
Yes, an oblate spheroid. That is what oblate means, slightly squashed.
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Post by davethebass on Sept 30, 2024 22:13:58 GMT
Actually it’s a oblate spheroid, and yes I’m sad enough to have looked it up. Oh fuck. I should have carried on reading before I posted! Well at least I have confirmation that I was correct lol
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 30, 2024 22:18:13 GMT
I've decided to give Pompey a miss. Really can't be arsed with my club at the moment. I hope there's a loud chorus of "Schumacher's Barmy Army" from those that do bother to turn up. They'll undoubtedly have to suffer another pathetic defeat against a team that hasn't won in the league all season. I can see it coming a mile off. We'll probably get picked off whilst Wilmot and Gibson are fannying around with it at the back. Viva la revolution. With all due respect mate that's a load of defeatist tosh. If you support SCFC and are able to attend you should do. We need the fans to get behind the new coach not pointless cheering for the ex-manager. We will be ok. 1-0 to the mighty Potters and onwards and upwards. Maybe you're right. But I can't be arsed. The club has driven me to apathy. I was fucking pissed off. But now I can't muster any interest. It'll come back at some point no doubt.
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 30, 2024 22:21:21 GMT
With all due respect mate that's a load of defeatist tosh. If you support SCFC and are able to attend you should do. We need the fans to get behind the new coach not pointless cheering for the ex-manager. We will be ok. 1-0 to the mighty Potters and onwards and upwards. Maybe you're right. But I can't be arsed. The club has driven me to apathy. I was fucking pissed off. But now I can't muster any interest. It'll come back at some point no doubt. If you really had no interest in the club you wouldn’t feel the need to be on here telling everyone about it. You’d just not go.
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 30, 2024 22:43:34 GMT
I've decided to give Pompey a miss. Really can't be arsed with my club at the moment. I hope there's a loud chorus of "Schumacher's Barmy Army" from those that do bother to turn up. They'll undoubtedly have to suffer another pathetic defeat against a team that hasn't won in the league all season. I can see it coming a mile off. We'll probably get picked off whilst Wilmot and Gibson are fannying around with it at the back. Viva la revolution. How about go and support the team . Anyone going there and singing SS barmy army needs a word with themselves.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 30, 2024 22:55:52 GMT
The Middlesbrough defeat was no worse than the Oxford or Watford ones. The Hull game could have been different if we'd taken one of our chances first half when we were dominant. People are going way overboard...... Is that in terms of just an outcome?? The Middlesboro game is the first game for quite a while where I've been completely repulsed by what we were trying to do since Gally was caretaker. We stank the place out at Oxford it was equally as bad.......
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 30, 2024 23:24:26 GMT
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 7:58:12 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games.
Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 1, 2024 8:10:22 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. Log before xmas looking at the fixtures and they way he wants to play
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Post by thornestein on Oct 1, 2024 8:13:53 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. didn’t he say in his first interview he would play as system that’s suits the players we have 🤔 ?
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Post by stokie1947 on Oct 1, 2024 8:16:14 GMT
changing managers all the time has done nothing he has a 3 year contract let him have at least half that before we judge him
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 1, 2024 8:20:49 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. This is my worry. I think SS would have eventually put getting results first ahead of imposing his style. It'd be hugely admitting defeat to NP now to go to a pragmatic style. He's pretty much said his job is to change our culture.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 8:25:03 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. This is my worry. I think SS would have eventually put getting results first ahead of imposing his style. It'd be hugely admitting defeat to NP now to go to a pragmatic style. He's pretty much said his job is to change our culture. To change a culture you need to recruit players for that culture, our brain dead board decided to bring him in after the window and expect him to play a slow possession based game with some of the worst passers of a ball in the fucking league. Everything we ever do is done upside down, from letting managers appoint their technical director, to changing philosophy’s after 5 games and a transfer window. We don’t have a fucking clue.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 1, 2024 8:25:35 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. The difference is we were three quarters of the way through the season and in a relegation battle - he couldn't afford to lose points while his way of playing bedded in. Given time it did. We may be hovering above the relegation zone but Pelach has the luxury of alot more games to bed his ideas in.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 1, 2024 8:28:05 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. The difference is we were three quarters of the way through the season and in a relegation battle - he couldn't afford to lose points while his way of playing bedded in. Given time it did. We may be hovering above the relegation zone but Pelach has the luxury of alot more games to bed his ideas in. I know what you mean, but lose this next two and we're in a relegation battle already.
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Post by mamathestriker on Oct 1, 2024 8:29:39 GMT
This is my worry. I think SS would have eventually put getting results first ahead of imposing his style. It'd be hugely admitting defeat to NP now to go to a pragmatic style. He's pretty much said his job is to change our culture. To change a culture you need to recruit players for that culture, our brain dead board decided to bring him in after the window and expect him to play a slow possession based game with some of the worst passers of a ball in the fucking league. Everything we ever do is done upside down, from letting managers appoint their technical director, to changing philosophy’s after 5 games and a transfer window. We don’t have a fucking clue. I'm really hoping we win tomorrow just ease the pressure off everything. Lose and you literally can't see where the next point is coming from. I say that with a lot of respect for Portsmouth too, who have had a tough fixture list. We mustn't underestimate them.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Oct 1, 2024 8:32:53 GMT
I've decided to give Pompey a miss. Really can't be arsed with my club at the moment. I hope there's a loud chorus of "Schumacher's Barmy Army" from those that do bother to turn up. They'll undoubtedly have to suffer another pathetic defeat against a team that hasn't won in the league all season. I can see it coming a mile off. We'll probably get picked off whilst Wilmot and Gibson are fannying around with it at the back. Viva la revolution. How about go and support the team . Anyone going there and singing SS barmy army needs a word with themselves. Are people actually planning on singing that?? 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 9:03:23 GMT
To change a culture you need to recruit players for that culture, our brain dead board decided to bring him in after the window and expect him to play a slow possession based game with some of the worst passers of a ball in the fucking league. Everything we ever do is done upside down, from letting managers appoint their technical director, to changing philosophy’s after 5 games and a transfer window. We don’t have a fucking clue. I'm really hoping we win tomorrow just ease the pressure off everything. Lose and you literally can't see where the next point is coming from. I say that with a lot of respect for Portsmouth too, who have had a tough fixture list. We mustn't underestimate them. They will beat us mate, they're not won yet, they're playing Charity FC bang at the right time as we don't have a frigging clue how to get the ball out of our half. It's hard to believe that 5-0 away at Boro was only a month ago, given the massive differences we see now.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 1, 2024 9:08:44 GMT
You can't blame Palach for the timing of his appointment, but he should have enough sense as an experienced coach, to see that a slow build up type game just doesn't suit this squad..Stoke fans generally warm to aggressive front foot football, can't see a methodical slow build up being put up with for too long, unless we start winning of course😉
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 1, 2024 9:15:46 GMT
Last season Schuey listened to the players, abandoned his principles and got the results needed before switching back to a style he was more fond of for the final 3/4 games. Can anyone see Narcis doing the same? because I absolutely can't and for that reason I genuinely believe he'll be gone before Christmas. This is my worry. I think SS would have eventually put getting results first ahead of imposing his style. It'd be hugely admitting defeat to NP now to go to a pragmatic style. He's pretty much said his job is to change our culture. He can choose evolution or revolution. My opinion is, if he chooses revolution, he'll fail. Hopefully he'll suss this out. I'm getting too old to endure the third tier again.
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Post by kerouac on Oct 1, 2024 9:33:51 GMT
Kompany changed the Dyche style quite successfully didn’t he,slow possession based build up(not my cup of tea to be honest) but it worked. Now Pelach is going to have to be given time and we are going to have to be very fucking patient if this is the way it’s going. Ultimately it could pan out well but unfortunately for us it’s going to be a long,frustrating journey.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 9:35:13 GMT
Kompany changed the Dyche style quite successfully didn’t he,slow possession based build up(not my cup of tea to be honest) but it worked. Now Pelach is going to have to be given time and we are going to have to be very fucking patient if this is the way it’s going. Ultimately it could pan out well but unfortunately for us it’s going to be a long,frustrating journey. Kompany got a full pre season and £50m to do it though
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Post by waltersobchak on Oct 1, 2024 9:44:00 GMT
You can't blame Palach for the timing of his appointment, but he should have enough sense as an experienced coach, to see that a slow build up type game just doesn't suit this squad..Stoke fans generally warm to aggressive front foot football, can't see a methodical slow build up being put up with for too long, unless we start winning of course😉 They key is in your last few words. I don't think anyone really gives a monkeys at this stage what tactics, formations and personnel are employed, we just want/need to see winning football again! Tomorrow night is massive. Seems daft after only two games in charge but we have to pick up the points to relieve the pressure. Narcis needs time but sadly he doesn't have that luxury unless he delivers points in the short term.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 1, 2024 9:45:45 GMT
A project is admirable, but in a results driven business, where league 1 is not an option in worse case scenario, he simply has to be winning these types of games coming up
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Post by vidigoals on Oct 1, 2024 9:51:47 GMT
I hope there's a loud chorus of "Schumacher's Barmy Army" from those that do bother to turn up. Utterly embarrassing.
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Post by kerouac on Oct 1, 2024 9:57:35 GMT
Kompany changed the Dyche style quite successfully didn’t he,slow possession based build up(not my cup of tea to be honest) but it worked. Now Pelach is going to have to be given time and we are going to have to be very fucking patient if this is the way it’s going. Ultimately it could pan out well but unfortunately for us it’s going to be a long,frustrating journey. Kompany got a full pre season and £50m to do it though True,I think the pre season point is important.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 1, 2024 9:58:49 GMT
Kompany changed the Dyche style quite successfully didn’t he,slow possession based build up(not my cup of tea to be honest) but it worked. Now Pelach is going to have to be given time and we are going to have to be very fucking patient if this is the way it’s going. Ultimately it could pan out well but unfortunately for us it’s going to be a long,frustrating journey. Kompany got a full pre season and £50m to do it though They still got relegated though didn't they? I'm really not convinced we have the players for this playing it out lark. Watched Southampton doing it last night with little success. And as a fan you're constsntly sat there with your heart in your mouth. I'm struggling to convince myself we're ready for this to be honest. And I worry about the crowd getting on board with it. One mis control or wayward pass leading to a soft goal will test the crowd tomorrow night. Its unfair on Pelach but Walters has managed this so badly its loaded massive extra pressure onto a young coach. I pray he can manage to do it 🙏
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 1, 2024 10:00:01 GMT
Kompany got a full pre season and £50m to do it though They still got relegated though didn't they? I'm really not convinced we have the players for this playing it out lark. Watched Southampton doing it last night with little success. And as a fan you're constsntly sat there with your heart in your mouth. I'm struggling to convince myself we're ready for this to be honest. And I worry about the crowd getting on board with it. One mis control or wayward pass leading to a soft goal will test the crowd tomorrow night. Its unfair on Pelach but Walters has managed this so badly its loaded massive extra pressure onto a young coach. I pray he can manage to do it 🙏 Stoke fans will never accept it mate.
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