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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 16, 2024 8:55:20 GMT
I suppose that the big question when you change manager is whether you think the tools in the playing squad are adequate for a good manager to make a really good fist of it and improve.
Perhaps the club feel that the players have more potential than they are currently showing. We have:
Johansson
Bonham
Fielding
Tchamadeu
Gooch
Anderson
Gibson
Wilmost
Phillips
Rose (is he still here?)
Dixon
Bocat
Stevens
Pearson
Burger
Seko
Thompson
Lawal
Moran
Sidibe
Koumas
Manhoef
Junho
Vidigal
Cannon
Gallagher
Ennis
Tezgel
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 16, 2024 8:59:07 GMT
It’s as weak as piss. A collection of kids with talent but no experience.
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Post by upthefud on Sept 16, 2024 9:13:45 GMT
I think it’s good.
It’s built to be a high pressing, energetic team. We need a manager to embrace this.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:14:34 GMT
Should be easily mid table.
They’re clearly poorly coached and managed though.
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Post by noustie on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:00 GMT
Our hardest player is probably Manhoef which pretty much points to where the problems lie.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 16, 2024 9:45:20 GMT
Not strong enough for this division.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 16, 2024 9:47:16 GMT
Its ok. Needs a target man and a leader of a centre back though.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 16, 2024 10:07:54 GMT
Its ok. Needs a target man and a leader of a centre back though. I thought Gibson was supposed to be the leader at centre back and Gallagher the target man? |
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Post by Ron on Sept 16, 2024 10:15:17 GMT
I suppose that the big question when you change manager is whether you think the tools in the playing squad are adequate for a good manager to make a really good fist of it and improve. Perhaps the club feel that the players have more potential than they are currently showing. We have: Johansson Bonham Fielding Tchamadeu Gooch Anderson Gibson Wilmost Phillips Rose (is he still here?) Dixon Bocat Stevens Pearson Burger Seko Thompson Lawal Moran Sidibe Koumas Manhoef Junho Vidigal Cannon Gallagher Ennis Tezgel Relegation battlers. Too much inexperience and poor poor quality experienced players. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2024 10:34:25 GMT
I think it’s good. It’s built to be a high pressing, energetic team. We need a manager to embrace this. True but who is the ball winner? I can't think of one player outside the defence who can tackle. |
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Post by damagedswan on Sept 16, 2024 10:38:55 GMT
I don't think we actually know? It's an incredibly young squad, a lot of players who seem to be earmarked as first-choice starters have still barely played for us, we've hardly played any games and those we have played have been an extremely mixed bag. Can't see where people's confidence in their assessments is coming from at all.
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Post by upthefud on Sept 16, 2024 10:41:07 GMT
I think it’s good. It’s built to be a high pressing, energetic team. We need a manager to embrace this. True but who is the ball winner? I can't think of one player outside the defence who can tackle. The intention is clearly that we will dominate the ball, so you need someone in that defensive midfield role who can distribute and link play, as opposed to being a disrupter. Of course we’d all like both but players like Rodri don’t grow on trees. The DM in this system is required to hold position when the other team have the ball. If we all press well someone will win it back. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2024 10:54:04 GMT
True but who is the ball winner? I can't think of one player outside the defence who can tackle. The intention is clearly that we will dominate the ball, so you need someone in that defensive midfield role who can distribute and link play, as opposed to being a disrupter. Of course we’d all like both but players like Rodri don’t grow on trees. The DM in this system is required to hold position when the other team have the ball. If we all press well someone will win it back. In theory. On Saturday the match became a midfield battle which we lost because we were second to every ball. You can't dominate the ball if you can't win it. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 11:15:28 GMT
We will know if the squad is good enough come May.
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Post by mcw on Sept 16, 2024 11:19:29 GMT
The intention is clearly that we will dominate the ball, so you need someone in that defensive midfield role who can distribute and link play, as opposed to being a disrupter. Of course we’d all like both but players like Rodri don’t grow on trees. The DM in this system is required to hold position when the other team have the ball. If we all press well someone will win it back. In theory. On Saturday the match became a midfield battle which we lost because we were second to every ball. You can't dominate the ball if you can't win it. Exactly and we have no steel in midfield at the moment to bully the opposition and dominate the ball so the forward players actually get balls and time/space. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Sept 16, 2024 11:21:27 GMT
Defence still extremely suspect, Wilmot starting over Phillips? RB another position desperately needed improving. Lightweight midfield, although the front 3 of Manhoef, Cannon & Koumas looks decent on paper.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 11:24:27 GMT
Young
desperately needs leadership
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Post by philb on Sept 16, 2024 11:29:56 GMT
With the right coaching they should finish mid table easily.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 16, 2024 11:35:22 GMT
Nowhere near as good as some would have you believe.
Build from the back - the defence is weak.
Get some leaders from somewhere.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 16, 2024 11:47:09 GMT
Defence is poor which means we have to attack with the best players we have to take the pressure off them. Playing defensively will see us lose games, so whoever comes in is going to have to play to our strengths rather than trying to cover our weaknesses.
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Post by femark on Sept 16, 2024 11:47:56 GMT
The team that started against Oxford had an average of 69 championship starts per player and a third of those were by Ben Gibson.
We have some really interesting and talented players but team is both young and completely inexperienced at championship level.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 16, 2024 12:15:02 GMT
The championship is tough, and a team with some grit, who take games by the scruff of the neck do well.
We don't have much grit.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 16, 2024 12:18:16 GMT
Better than one shot on target at Oxford.
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Post by cokecystfit on Sept 16, 2024 12:24:48 GMT
The championship is tough, and a team with some grit, who take games by the scruff of the neck do well. We don't have much grit. The few players with a bit of grit we do have are out injured. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 16, 2024 12:33:54 GMT
This would be a very good squad in 2028.
Now 2024, I feel this is too young, lightweight and inexperieced squad for the championship.
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Post by idle on Sept 16, 2024 12:44:21 GMT
Mid table at best.
Too young to have any real consistency.
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Post by jeycov on Sept 16, 2024 14:12:12 GMT
The championship is tough, and a team with some grit, who take games by the scruff of the neck do well. We don't have much grit. Agree Confidence also a very important factor with such a young squad I do hope our incoming manager continues to give these players a chance |
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 16, 2024 14:20:09 GMT
I think a front three of Koumas Cannon and Manouf looks extremely strong especially with Gallagher to support. We do have some good players in mid field too. The defensive squad is strengthened by Johansen GK . The coach will have to work hard with organising a back three or four but we do have the players to achieve clean sheets. The manager will have to achieve the balance of youth and experience. Good luck to who ever takes on the job.
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Post by musik on Sept 16, 2024 14:47:48 GMT
We have:
Johansson -7+ (I want him to catch the ball more often or take it out of play)
Bonham -7
Fielding-6
Tchamadeu -7
Gooch-7
Anderson-?
Gibson -?
Wilmot -7
Phillips-?
Rose (is he still here?) -2
Dixon -?
Bocat -?
Stevens -6
Pearson -5
Burger -6
Seko -?
Thompson -6
Lawal -?
Moran -?
Sidibe -?
Koumas-8
Manhoef -6
Junho -7
Vidigal -6
Cannon -?
Gallagher -?
Ennis -?
Tezgel-6
? means I've seen to little to judge.
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Post by spirered on Sept 16, 2024 14:51:11 GMT
I think a front three of Koumas Cannon and Manouf looks extremely strong especially with Gallagher to support. We do have some good players in mid field too. The defensive squad is strengthened by Johansen GK . The coach will have to work hard with organising a back three or four but we do have the players to achieve clean sheets. The manager will have to achieve the balance of youth and experience. Good luck to who ever takes on the job. I think the midfield is really poor..it's full of players that are either injured, out of form, too inexperienced or just not good enough The rest of the team would have got us to mid table though. |
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