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Post by smallthorner on Sept 14, 2024 17:26:02 GMT
Whoever made the decision to take that short corner at end of first half needs bum fuckin with a rusty pole.
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Post by maine on Sept 14, 2024 17:31:46 GMT
I don't!
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Post by jebbstuart on Sept 14, 2024 17:48:55 GMT
1 for turning up, utter clueless tactics we could still be playing and the Oxford keeper would still not have anything to worry about.
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Post by stokemark on Sept 14, 2024 17:55:55 GMT
We have a manager who reflects the inexperience and naivety of our team. Steamrollered by a team of no names who play as a unit and were far more organised and competitive than we were.
I don't understand how we have ended the window needing to play Gooch completely out of position (or at all for that matter) and have a weak as piss midfield.
There is a lot to be annoyed about but how much of that is the managers fault and how much it is due to to the malaise around the club that refuses to budge is difficult to say
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Post by premieraj on Sept 14, 2024 17:58:17 GMT
I always hate losing in any circumstance but this again was the manner of the defeat. Just some inexplicable performances?
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Post by ceejays on Sept 14, 2024 18:52:42 GMT
What concerns me is he talks of playing high risk attacking football. Similar to AN . We will play on the front foot etc . But then gets his kickers in a twist analysing Oxford . Three goals in 5 games says it all . He’s shit scared of the opposition. Today he played Gooch he says to press their left sided centre back . He played Gibson cuz he was up against a lone striker . I think he just goes into negative mode with all these analysis guys that surround modern managers . High intensity compress the play get a few tackles in and score goals . ATM I’ve not seen him play outright attacking football. Coventry dominated the second half Watford blew us away . Now we can’t beat Oxford . I can imagine him giving the players a roasting . He seems too nice a guy . We’ve all said there will be bumps in the road but this one is self inflicted
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Post by ceejays on Sept 14, 2024 18:53:56 GMT
Edit - can’t see him giving the players a roasting
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2024 18:54:35 GMT
Whoever made the decision to take that short corner at end of first half needs bum fuckin with a rusty pole. Well we’re absolutely shite at long ones still so……. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 14, 2024 19:00:47 GMT
One step forward, one step back Schumacher!!!
Strategy doesn't seem to be his forte!!!
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 14, 2024 19:05:57 GMT
Whoever made the decision to take that short corner at end of first half needs bum fuckin with a rusty pole. Well we’re absolutely shite at long ones still so……. The two long corners immediately before actually caused a tremor of fear in their defence. It was at least a perfect opportunity to get the ball into the mix at a crucial time. We are shit though. |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 14, 2024 19:07:46 GMT
One step forward, one step back Schumacher!!! Strategy doesn't seem to be his forte!!! I reckon momentum doesn't come into Stoke's strategy haha. |
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Post by Gunslinger on Sept 14, 2024 20:51:48 GMT
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Very disappointing
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Post by Block 26 on Sept 14, 2024 21:21:09 GMT
1 - Wrong set up… Gooch at number 10 was hilarious, the midfield looked weak before ko for me.
Panic subs - bringing Ennis on is again laughable, he’s proven that he is nowhere near this level.
I’ve seen some really poor performances over the past few years but today is right up there.
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Post by Bagwash on Sept 14, 2024 21:25:51 GMT
More worried about what the opposition is doing in terms of setup and formation that he is about what his own team are doing. Good teams don’t care about the opposition formation. They go out and play to their strengths and win. 4 for me and only because the players also let him down today This,100% Fed up of our managers/coaches waxing lyrically about what strengths the opposition possess. |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 14, 2024 21:32:52 GMT
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Gooch as a 10 is unforgivable.
He definitely has an issue of over thinking coaching
We have a squad easily capable of beating them. Over thinking is killing him.
Play our best players, in the best positions.
It costing points.
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Post by Block 26 on Sept 14, 2024 21:33:56 GMT
More worried about what the opposition is doing in terms of setup and formation that he is about what his own team are doing. Good teams don’t care about the opposition formation. They go out and play to their strengths and win. 4 for me and only because the players also let him down today This,100% Fed up of our managers/coaches waxing lyrically about what strengths the opposition possess. Why would you though? I looked at oxfords results before today, I also saw them give Cov a game on sky a few weeks ago, we all knew that they were no mugs. But surely if you were the manager you would know that we’re technically much the better side & would concentrate on our own game rather than the oppositions? |
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Post by idle on Sept 15, 2024 6:31:33 GMT
This,100% Fed up of our managers/coaches waxing lyrically about what strengths the opposition possess. Why would you though? I looked at oxfords results before today, I also saw them give Cov a game on sky a few weeks ago, we all knew that they were no mugs. But surely if you were the manager you would know that we’re technically much the better side & would concentrate on our own game rather than the oppositions? He was probably trying to get the players to take the game seriously. Most of them seemed like we should've strolled past them with no work or determination. And that goes double for the midfield. The players thought we'd beat them easily before the game, just as some on here was. "3 stand stadium", "tinpot", "newly promoted", etc. Everyone should know newly promoted teams are on a high which usually lasts a few months into the season. Look at both Oxford and Derby in the table, they're 7th and 8th, with only Portsmouth in the bottom half (although in relegation as they haven't won yet). I don't think SS was concentrating on hte opposition, he wanted to play attacking football but the players let him down. Well that, and trying Gooch as a 10. But Moran wasn't better at all! |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 15, 2024 6:37:23 GMT
2 Gooch as a 10 is unforgivable. He definitely has an issue of over thinking coaching We have a squad easily capable of beating them. Over thinking is killing him. Play our best players, in the best positions. It costing points. I womdet if gooch as a 10 was a little message |
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 15, 2024 6:50:28 GMT
2 Gooch as a 10 is unforgivable. He definitely has an issue of over thinking coaching We have a squad easily capable of beating them. Over thinking is killing him. Play our best players, in the best positions. It costing points. I womdet if gooch as a 10 was a little message Could the message have been: ‘ I haven’t got a clue what to do’, or: ‘ I don’t think my own plan is good enough to beat Oxford’? My message would be: pick your best players in the positions that suit their skill sets. |
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 15, 2024 6:52:50 GMT
There’s nothing to rate. It’s as clear as daylight he’s just not good enough. Of course I will be shouted down by the ‘in Schuey we trust brigade’. These are the same people who were in the ‘in Nathan we trust’, ‘in O’Neill we trust’, ‘in Neal we trust’ etc brigades. We will not progress until we get a proper continental manager! I’ve said this over and over and over again and will continue to say it. Look at Brighton. Who did they go for ? And it’s paying dividends. Same goes for so many other clubs. Schumacher is barely fit to manage the under 17s and anyone without blinkers can see that
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 15, 2024 6:56:08 GMT
I womdet if gooch as a 10 was a little message Could the message have been: ‘ I haven’t got a clue what to do’, or: ‘ I don’t think my own plan is good enough to beat Oxford’? My message would be: pick your best players in the positions that suit their skill sets. Or" i told you i needdd another attacking midfielder rememner rhe left back issue at blackburn" There seens a delusion hat juno can play there thats been dismantelwd week by week |
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Post by premieraj on Sept 15, 2024 7:03:03 GMT
I did say I would try to review after the hurt of defeat subsides a bit. My only thought on Shoey was the set up re the press I thought worked in the first half.
We needed to score in that period and the game may have been different. Junho had the chance and fluffed it! We just did not create anything and really neither did they. They then get the goal through poor defending and the game has gone.
No defence of the loss but that’s how I saw it. No creativity and anything up top and midfield very weak.
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Post by questionable on Sept 15, 2024 7:07:03 GMT
Carried on exactly from his clueless period from last season with a vengeance .
We’re going nowhere with him in charge and the clubs so called young hungry players
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 15, 2024 7:26:52 GMT
His post match Assessment!
No excuses,” said Schumacher. “All we can do is try to put a game plan together for the lads and tell them what is expected and hope we can carry out what we've been working on. I can honestly say that in the whole of the international break the days' training we've had, this week has been electric in training. But it's no good being electric in training if you can't bring it on a Saturday
I can’t begin to tell you how limp and uninspiring this sounds. If this is the timid language he uses when coaching / leading then the problem is right in front of us.
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Post by RAF on Sept 15, 2024 9:22:30 GMT
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Pedestrian Sunday League arse gravy.
Can't keep possession, can't trap a bag of sand, and can't pass to feet.
Oxford deserved to win and their manager and players had worked out our high press after 10 minutes.
There has to be a process of expedited change when this happens and not just plod on regardless.
Loads of work to be done
H
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Post by Bang Bang Cauliflower on Sept 15, 2024 9:50:12 GMT
More worried about what the opposition is doing in terms of setup and formation that he is about what his own team are doing. Good teams don’t care about the opposition formation. They go out and play to their strengths and win. 4 for me and only because the players also let him down today I like SS but that selection was completely at odds with his “be brave and go and win” msg. Just pick our strongest team. Which doesn’t involve gooch playing #10 to “defend from the front”. |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 15, 2024 10:42:53 GMT
2 Gooch as a 10 is unforgivable. He definitely has an issue of over thinking coaching We have a squad easily capable of beating them. Over thinking is killing him. Play our best players, in the best positions. It costing points. I womdet if gooch as a 10 was a little message Maybe Benj I would honestly have him down as the last person in the squad to play as 10. It's that bad a decision it does make you wonder. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 15, 2024 10:49:00 GMT
On another thread talking about Moran being fit or not I jokingly mentioned that we shouldn’t worry as we had Gooch to play there. I can’t believe it actually happened
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 16, 2024 9:03:59 GMT
Can you give anything other than 0 to a man who thought Gooch starting at number 10 was in any way acceptable? Nobody can survive starting Gooch at CAM. |
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Post by march4 on Sept 16, 2024 9:14:29 GMT
Zero and needs to go pronto Hmmmmm! Your wish……………….. |
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