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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 24, 2024 17:58:53 GMT
4 from me, WBA obviously watched the Watford game and deployed similar tactics yet we learned nothing. Gouranga.
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Post by marwood on Aug 24, 2024 18:33:56 GMT
2 for starting Koumas Loses points for being outmanoeuvred in most games, last week he failed to adapt at half time, this week he set the team up to fail before kick off
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Post by peterpan1 on Aug 24, 2024 19:18:03 GMT
He's just very, very naive.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 24, 2024 19:22:10 GMT
The tactic of playing Koumas up front was almost a master stroke.
Playing Gooch, not so much.
5/10
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 24, 2024 19:35:38 GMT
3
Was clear from the off that the way we set up, they had an extra man in midfield that stifled our game and meant them breaking through or back line way too easily.
They really aren't very good, just set up well and we gifted them the game
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 24, 2024 19:52:46 GMT
3 Was clear from the off that the way we set up, they had an extra man in midfield that stifled our game and meant them breaking through or back line way too easily. They really aren't very good, just set up well and we gifted them the game Because they have a very good manager
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 24, 2024 21:36:41 GMT
3
Persisting with Gooch. Moving koumas to the wing. Being mugged by a bog standard baggies team.
All very very frustrating
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Post by boweryboy on Aug 24, 2024 21:46:47 GMT
Why would you move him to the wing, when we were getting so much joy going through the middle,he gets booked trying to defend,SS you are beyond a joke with that stupid thinking, you've lost it already!!!
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 24, 2024 21:59:41 GMT
3
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 24, 2024 22:04:02 GMT
3. If WBA is an example of a "top 7 team" then this league is extremely piss-poor. "Possession Football" my arse. Anyone who pressures them on defence will kill them.
Strategy-wise, we were just too chicken to play them.
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Post by loosestools on Aug 24, 2024 22:04:14 GMT
1 The bloke is a chancer, tactically very poor.Thats his job, aint it?
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 24, 2024 22:07:26 GMT
4
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 24, 2024 22:10:09 GMT
Why would you move him to the wing, when we were getting so much joy going through the middle,he gets booked trying to defend,SS you are beyond a joke with that stupid thinking, you've lost it already!!! Because he was trying to get as many forwards on as possible.
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 24, 2024 22:13:00 GMT
2.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 24, 2024 22:17:09 GMT
3
The quality of the front 3 (minus Gooch)at times almost made the approach look like it had been thought out but the defensive side of it was absolutely horrific
And then the subs absolutely killed any remaining momentum.
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Post by boweryboy on Aug 25, 2024 6:00:55 GMT
By all means bring on more forwards (have we got any worth bringing on) but don't move a player who is our biggest threat,he may as well have put him left back,how many players did he change their positions,it really did end up a shambles as Pejic said.
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Post by stokie1947 on Aug 25, 2024 7:17:21 GMT
not even worth rating
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Post by stokie63 on Aug 25, 2024 7:21:37 GMT
2 for me his set up and tactics were awful, the players looked lost and didn't no what their roles were.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 25, 2024 7:26:08 GMT
Why would you move him to the wing, when we were getting so much joy going through the middle,he gets booked trying to defend,SS you are beyond a joke with that stupid thinking, you've lost it already!!! Because he was trying to get as many forwards on as possible. And he’s a wide left forward. I mean fancy putting him there he became a dyed in the wool CF by scoring a goal. Just like Joe Allen became a No10 by scoring a few until the penny dropped that he wasn’t.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 25, 2024 7:31:24 GMT
2. Combination of Million, Koumas and Jun Ho showed promise.
Everything else was a shambolic misuse of the players available.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 25, 2024 7:51:09 GMT
Are they better than Coventry?
I'd say no
Still don't get what we were trying to do
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 25, 2024 8:18:38 GMT
Because he was trying to get as many forwards on as possible. And he’s a wide left forward. I mean fancy putting him there he became a dyed in the wool CF by scoring a goal. Just like Joe Allen became a No10 by scoring a few until the penny dropped that he wasn’t. I can see why people are saying keep him at CF but I think he'd do a lot better for us wide, he got out muscled a few times which I think he could avoid out wide, which as you say, is his position.
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 25, 2024 8:19:57 GMT
3 totally schooled by Corberan.
Ridiculous formation, awful subs and muddled tactics. Nor really sure why he gets a 3 to be honest
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Post by idle on Aug 25, 2024 8:37:49 GMT
4
Disclaimer: I only saw the match on the TV for 60 minutes (as I had a derby to attend)
I've been a fan of Schuey since he came in, but the signs for him to get fired are all there.
Changing to a back 5. Of course, it's not really a back 5, as having Bocat as a full-on CB would be madness, it's more of a fluid 5-3-2/4-3-3 where Gooch of all players are the key at LWB/LW. This would have been awesome with someone like Alfie Doughty, but not a right-footed utility player with only work rate to show for. Why not use Gooch at RWB and and Bocat as LWB? We had a WB who's wrong-footed (in more ways than one...) and it showed for both their goals. Is this some wierd inverted wingback tactical ploy? I don't understand it, and neither does the players it seems. The 3 CBs also meant we had no one in front of the defence, and is at fault for the second in a tactical sense.
The other thing is refusing to play Burger in a role he excels at. Again, I didn't see his performance when he came on, but I'm pretty sure he'd be much much better than Thompson was today. JT should never be more than a bench or cup player, he's just not good enough. If you're a tactical manager you tweak your formation to suit your best players. Schuey doesn't seem to be able to do this.
On the plus side (at the risk of jinxing it), Koumas seems like a brilliant loan. Have we finally found our 15-20 goal striker? I thought he was excellent, and miles ahead of some of his fellow players making runs. If we can develop an understanding between him and Bae they'll rip apart defences. Million already gets Koumas. Or Maybe it's because Koumas actually makes runs like a striker. I can't remember the last striker we had that did...
People on here jumping on Laurent today are wrong IMO, and I'm not his biggest fan. He was fine, an average game, but was let down by JT. Also Bae needs more game time and instruction on how to play centrally. He wandered out left way too often and it left Laurent too isolated.
Their goals came from 1. Gooch not being able to function as a LB/LWB and being skinned too easily. And Grants arms were all over Junior and should have been a FK IMO. Junior should be stronger though, which is worrying. The second came from a really simple out to the wing (again Gooch's responsibility) and the failure to intercept the low cross. It was a marvellous finish by Maja though, not much to do about it for Johansson or the defence.
I'm not in panic mode yet, but losing home games like this is worrying. Especially tactically with the constant changing things around. I'd even forgive him using Gooch and Thompson if it meant keeping the formation and playing style. Now's the time to drop them both, and set a formation so the players can develop some understanding and bonds on the pitch.
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Aug 25, 2024 8:44:53 GMT
The only part of our team that worked was Bae Koumas and million. the rest of the team looked disorganized and clueless about what they should be doing, What do they practice in training during the week ?? so want Schumacher to succeed but on yesterdays lineup tactics and sustititions……. 3
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Post by premieraj on Aug 25, 2024 9:08:07 GMT
The only part of our team that worked was Bae Koumas and million. the rest of the team looked disorganized and clueless about what they should be doing, What do they practice in training during the week ?? so want Schumacher to succeed but on yesterdays lineup tactics and sustititions……. 3 And Majorca lost!
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Post by Roger Everyone on Aug 25, 2024 9:20:10 GMT
4
Needs to get training them this week !
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 25, 2024 9:32:18 GMT
His starting 11 formation and his substitutions were bizarre. To move Koumas from the middle to the wing was criminal. For once I actually agree with Micky Pej. The execution of the game was a shambles and the only positive was that we may have found a real striker in Koumas. The lad should have had a hat trick. I'm like Idle above... this is the first time I think SS may be another dud.
I'm struggling to do it but I'll give him a 2/10.
OS.
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Aug 25, 2024 9:57:40 GMT
The only part of our team that worked was Bae Koumas and million. the rest of the team looked disorganized and clueless about what they should be doing, What do they practice in training during the week ?? so want Schumacher to succeed but on yesterdays lineup tactics and sustititions……. 3 And Majorca lost! Shite football weekend, but Mallorca drew with Real Madrid last week…oh and England beat Sri Lanka (cricket I know, but straws are there to be clutched…)..
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 25, 2024 10:07:34 GMT
4
Starting to have doubts now...
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