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Post by Glory Hunter on Aug 24, 2024 20:48:41 GMT
I'm struggling, Koumas maybe? Seemed a bright spark. Somehow contrived to become collectively worse all over the pitch. Signed a goalkeeper who doesn't look convincing whatsoever, defensively we look all over the place and offensively we've got no idea. Relegation beckons. Beaten today by a side who looked like they didn't even get out of second gear. Shambles. Rubbish. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 24, 2024 20:51:23 GMT
It's 3 games into the season.
Those 3 games have been against top sides. And we won one of them.
Our squad isn't assembled yet.
We have injured players to come back.
Sooner or later Schumacher or someone who can influence him will see this narrow defending is costing us
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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 24, 2024 20:53:29 GMT
1. Far too early to pass judgement having played 3 of the top 8 sides with strong squads and looking for promotion. 2. The club has still not assembled the full squad and looking for a striker. 3. Unlike previous seasons we have a much younger and less experienced squad who are still learning and will get better with experience and mutual understanding between each other. 4. The manager is young and still learning. 5. We are in a marathon, not a sprint. The club need fans support not criticism, it could get a lot tougher before things get better. Criticism of the owners is misplaced. I can't think of any successful manager who attributed his success to the owners. In fact some of the most successful like Clough and Ramsay were a pain for their bosses! The most successful British manager in modern times was Ferguson. He was ruthless with players and always very complimentary about all his assistants down the years. But even he was sacked early in his career and came within a whisker of losing his job at ManU in his first seasons. I am happy to enjoy some attacking football for a change instead of all the negative side to side and back to the goalie and ending up losing anyway . Where was this “attacking football” you speak of? |
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Post by minnierover on Aug 24, 2024 21:03:38 GMT
We got totally bossed all over the pitch which is becoming a common theme very worrying. Bang on |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 24, 2024 21:06:27 GMT
We got totally bossed all over the pitch which is becoming a common theme very worrying. What game did you watch, they were no better than we were, it was pretty even, they just scored their chances and we hit the post. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 24, 2024 21:11:17 GMT
We got totally bossed all over the pitch which is becoming a common theme very worrying. What game did you watch, they were no better than we were, it was pretty even, they just scored their chances and we hit the post. They were far better, they looked stronger, fitter and more well organised. They looked like they had more gears to go into should they need them, which they did when we equalised. Really deflating after today especially given all of the talk from Schumacher in the off season about getting a good pre-season behind us. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 24, 2024 21:13:56 GMT
What game did you watch, they were no better than we were, it was pretty even, they just scored their chances and we hit the post. They were far better, they looked stronger, fitter and more well organised. They looked like they had more gears to go into should they need them, which they did when we equalised. Really deflating after today especially given all of the talk from Schumacher in the off season about getting a good pre-season behind us. They weren't far better though, it was two average to shit looking sides, if they were so comfortable we wouldn't have had chances we did. |
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Post by minnierover on Aug 24, 2024 22:06:26 GMT
They were far better, they looked stronger, fitter and more well organised. They looked like they had more gears to go into should they need them, which they did when we equalised. Really deflating after today especially given all of the talk from Schumacher in the off season about getting a good pre-season behind us. They weren't far better though, it was two average to shit looking sides, if they were so comfortable we wouldn't have had chances we did. I’m afraid they were very comfortable and far better than us. It happens, very worrying though. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 24, 2024 22:15:31 GMT
On another day we could have got a point out of that game and 4pts would have been a decent return given injuries/squad at the moment and the teams we have faced will all probably finish top half. Our season starts when the window finishes and hopefully we have been able to bring some more quality and numbers in, that said already a huge game against Plymouth, where we have to be positive and go and try and win that game and get something out of it, we still need to be getting points on the board and be careful not to be dropping into a scrap and more importantly start losing confidence. If we can keep Junho & Million, and Koumas keeps playing like today and improving then there is some quality in there and we have a few youngsters we have yet to see, Lawal and Phillips come highly rated. That said we could do with some rock the city signings: central defender, right-back and striker would be nice for starters, but this is a reasons to be optimistic thread so I am not going to mention it  |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 24, 2024 22:24:58 GMT
Koumas, Manhoef, and Bae Junho are exciting players. If we can get someone in midfield (like Cundle) who can work with them to get the ball at their feet in the box we will eventually get some goals.
The centre backs have looked solid IMO. Just need better from the fullbacks and goalkeeper.
We have lots of midfield depth.
That’s about all I can think of.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 24, 2024 22:33:44 GMT
Getting on for a decade since you could say we were in business. The days when we relegated Leicester, Wolves were in the League below, buyers of top class players not sellers, beating the Baggies every time…….and today we see the results of that stagnation
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Post by potter25 on Aug 24, 2024 22:56:40 GMT
Koumas and the seasoned chips they now serve
Both top tier 👌
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Post by Pottersfan on Aug 24, 2024 22:58:02 GMT
Shuey out, we are going nowhere with him! On the last two performances . How old are you ? |
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Post by milton58 on Aug 25, 2024 3:27:17 GMT
I'm struggling, Koumas maybe? Seemed a bright spark. Somehow contrived to become collectively worse all over the pitch. Signed a goalkeeper who doesn't look convincing whatsoever, defensively we look all over the place and offensively we've got no idea. Relegation beckons. Beaten today by a side who looked like they didn't even get out of second gear. Shambles. your unbelievable |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 25, 2024 3:50:22 GMT
The front four has some potential.
Manhoef Moran Bae
Koumas
Sadly, they’re going to have to be exceptional to get us out of trouble based on the 7 we currently have behind them.
If we can get another midfielder in, hopefully between a new midfielder and Lawal we might at least be semi-competent in a few months time. We desperately need to ship some out which would ideally include Laurent but it won’t happen and he’ll continue to be one of the first names on the team sheet.
Hopefully, this Ashley Phillips can add some competence to the back four (praying that the back 5 experiment is done and dusted) and the ‘keeper starts performing how he has the last few seasons before signing for us!
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 25, 2024 3:52:52 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 25, 2024 6:17:53 GMT
Koumas, Manhoef, and Bae Junho are exciting players. If we can get someone in midfield (like Cundle) who can work with them to get the ball at their feet in the box we will eventually get some goals. The centre backs have looked solid IMO. Just need better from the fullbacks and goalkeeper. We have lots of midfield depth. That’s about all I can think of. After yesterday the biggest issue for me are the midfield and full backs. Junior is a million miles off and Bocat has been a big disappointment so far. Not sure if it’s what they’re being told to do or that they’re just not very good but in the case of LB at least we have Stevens if he can ever play a run of games. In respect to RB we simply have to get someone in. CM is a car crash we don’t have anyone who excels at any aspect of what a midfielder should do. Laurent and Thompson are so beige. I didn’t notice either yesterday which says it all. Neither get goals, rarely create much or even pass forwards and don’t seem to cover the defence much. Thompsons an OK squad player but shouldn’t be starting and Laurent rarely shows up but is always the first name on the team sheet it appears. Thankfully we have Lawal to come in to offer some steel but for me we need someone else too. In respect to the AM role it’s to early to make a call on Moran but I’d still try and get Cundle in as Bae needs to play wide left predominantly. |
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Post by scfcadams on Aug 25, 2024 6:25:36 GMT
I’m going to get hate for this, but we weren’t anywhere near as bad as people are making out yesterday. On another day we win 3-2 against a top 6 team.
Some sloppy defending cost us the goals (shock horror), but otherwise we defended well and really limited their chances. Whilst at the other end hitting the post twice.
We were absolutely made worse with every single substitute. That’s our big problem; strength in depth.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 25, 2024 7:24:19 GMT
He played the whole 90 minutes , both up front and out wide, scored and could have easily had a hat trick. Why would Liverpool have an issue with that? I’m sure it will be fine for now but the demoralising effect of our season going into its usual tailspin might be something they wish to avoid long term ! .....especially if it brings with it the usual coaching casualties. If koumas keeps playing, and playing well in a dross of a side, and scoring. Why the hell would Liverpool be unhappy? |
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Post by wuzza on Aug 25, 2024 10:46:20 GMT
I’m sure it will be fine for now but the demoralising effect of our season going into its usual tailspin might be something they wish to avoid long term ! .....especially if it brings with it the usual coaching casualties. If koumas keeps playing, and playing well in a dross of a side, and scoring. Why the hell would Liverpool be unhappy? Significant change in the coaching set up at the host club (let’s not kid ourselves it could happen) , desire to see how he performs in a set up that isn’t constantly struggling - who knows. It happens - we’ve benefited from it in the past. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 25, 2024 11:59:05 GMT
Only Koumas who looked a proper player and with a bit of luck could have had a hat trick. Million looked ok and Gibson was solid, the rest jeez… Funny how people see a different game me and my son thought million was terrible |
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Post by Marc01 on Aug 25, 2024 12:41:57 GMT
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 25, 2024 12:42:58 GMT
If koumas keeps playing, and playing well in a dross of a side, and scoring. Why the hell would Liverpool be unhappy? Significant change in the coaching set up at the host club (let’s not kid ourselves it could happen) , desire to see how he performs in a set up that isn’t constantly struggling - who knows. It happens - we’ve benefited from it in the past. Surely if he's doing well in a struggling side then that shows Liverpool more about Koumas, than if he was doing the same in a table topping, free flowing, scoring side. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 25, 2024 12:47:24 GMT
Yeah there were spells in the first hslf where Manhoef and Koumas (and to a lesser degree Bae) linked up really well together. Definately something to work on there. A focal point for them to play off, whether that be Gallagher or not coukd be just the ticket. Lawal in midfield coukd make a big difference to us aswell CHs were ok, and Im probs in the minority but I think theres a player in Bocat |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Aug 25, 2024 12:56:03 GMT
Very fine margins in the Championship, those two shots from Koumas bounce in instead of out and we win 3-2 and everyone is talking about what an amazing striker we have.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 25, 2024 12:58:39 GMT
Significant change in the coaching set up at the host club (let’s not kid ourselves it could happen) , desire to see how he performs in a set up that isn’t constantly struggling - who knows. It happens - we’ve benefited from it in the past. Surely if he's doing well in a struggling side then that shows Liverpool more about Koumas, than if he was doing the same in a table topping, free flowing, scoring side. Totally agree but if the team doesn’t get its act together so he can’t maximise his potential then it could easily be in their interest to place him elsewhere. All ifs buts and maybes and I hope it’s never an issue and SCFC doesn’t become as toxic as it has the potential to be. |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Aug 25, 2024 12:59:05 GMT
Million looked ok and Gibson was solid, the rest jeez… Funny how people see a different game me and my son thought million was terrible I thought we didn't get the ball to him nearly enough. Looked our main threat, put Koumas in and worked his arse off. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 25, 2024 13:23:51 GMT
Funny how people see a different game me and my son thought million was terrible I thought we didn't get the ball to him nearly enough. Looked our main threat, put Koumas in and worked his arse off. Having seen it back it was a great ball through to koumas but apart from that our opinion was he was poor. Don’t get me wrong I think he is our best player just to us wasn’t at it. |
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 25, 2024 13:32:32 GMT
hopefully we can get rid of a few this week what would be good news and the lads who we have signed will have another week to settle in and try and get a few off the injury list ie Gallagher and the Celtic lad,
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