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Post by maine on Aug 17, 2024 22:16:02 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 22:20:14 GMT
If the club don’t agree they should sue her and the paper.
Let’s see if they do.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 17, 2024 22:59:29 GMT
If the club don’t agree they should sue her and the paper. Let’s see if they do. Why on earth should Stoke sue the poor girl? What do we have to gain from doing that other than more bad publicity as we take what little money she has left in a pathetic litigation case. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 23:01:45 GMT
If the club don’t agree they should sue her and the paper. Let’s see if they do. Why on earth should Stoke sue the poor girl? What do we have to gain from doing that other than more bad publicity as we take what little money she has left in a pathetic litigation case. Well it’s why you’d go after the paper if they’re publishing lies about your business that are detrimental. I don’t get why you wouldn’t if you did indeed think they are lying? |
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 17, 2024 23:09:05 GMT
Are we now accepting the Guardian as a reputable news source for disaffected sporting minorities ?
Just Fuck Off. 😂😂😂😂
Anyone who does needs certifying. It really is a hideous cult of misinformation.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 17, 2024 23:23:46 GMT
Why on earth should Stoke sue the poor girl? What do we have to gain from doing that other than more bad publicity as we take what little money she has left in a pathetic litigation case. Well it’s why you’d go after the paper if they’re publishing lies about your business that are detrimental. I don’t get why you wouldn’t if you did indeed think they are lying? Because it’s a non story by a rag that has no credibility? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 17, 2024 23:30:35 GMT
If she’s that arsed she’d persue it and not give up and complain to a national shit rag
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 23:37:35 GMT
Well it’s why you’d go after the paper if they’re publishing lies about your business that are detrimental. I don’t get why you wouldn’t if you did indeed think they are lying? Because it’s a non story by a rag that has no credibility? Is it? It sounds inkeeping with how we know that side of the club is run to me and she’s clearly been through the mill as have other female players for us. The stories that come out of the women’s team are consistently pretty horrific. I’d love for it to be bollocks. Sadly I don’t think it is and the retort from the club is pathetic. I’d be mortified if I was accused of such things and would want to quash it immediately. |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 17, 2024 23:41:08 GMT
Are we now accepting the Guardian as a reputable news source for disaffected sporting minorities ? Just Fuck Off. 😂😂😂😂 Anyone who does needs certifying. It really is a hideous cult of misinformation. It’s a first-hand interview. Which part do you suspect to be “misinformation”, bearing in mind we know this exact thing happened with another female Stoke player about a year ago? |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 17, 2024 23:44:04 GMT
Because it’s a non story by a rag that has no credibility? Is it? It sounds inkeeping with how we know that side of the club is run to me and she’s clearly been through the mill as have other female players for us. The stories that come out of the women’s team are consistently pretty horrific. I’d love for it to be bollocks. Sadly I don’t think it is and the retort from the club is pathetic. I’d be mortified if I was accused of such things and would want to quash it immediately. So to be clear, you want to see us crush this poor girl into the ground and ruin her financially in a court of law as a consequence? |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 17, 2024 23:45:47 GMT
Is it? It sounds inkeeping with how we know that side of the club is run to me and she’s clearly been through the mill as have other female players for us. The stories that come out of the women’s team are consistently pretty horrific. I’d love for it to be bollocks. Sadly I don’t think it is and the retort from the club is pathetic. I’d be mortified if I was accused of such things and would want to quash it immediately. So to be clear, you want to see us crush this poor girl into the ground and ruin her financially in a court of law as a consequence? The glaringly obvious point is that that won’t happen because the story is true |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 23:48:14 GMT
Is it? It sounds inkeeping with how we know that side of the club is run to me and she’s clearly been through the mill as have other female players for us. The stories that come out of the women’s team are consistently pretty horrific. I’d love for it to be bollocks. Sadly I don’t think it is and the retort from the club is pathetic. I’d be mortified if I was accused of such things and would want to quash it immediately. So to be clear, you want to see us crush this poor girl into the ground and ruin her financially in a court of law as a consequence? I want us to prove she is lying. I don’t think she is…. |
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Post by Gods on Aug 17, 2024 23:49:55 GMT
What does she want?
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 17, 2024 23:50:43 GMT
So to be clear, you want to see us crush this poor girl into the ground and ruin her financially in a court of law as a consequence? I want us to prove she is lying. I don’t think she is…. I want us to just leave it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 23:52:04 GMT
Better rights for women’s footballers? Damn her! |
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Post by Gods on Aug 17, 2024 23:57:10 GMT
Better rights for women’s footballers? Damn her! Specifically I mean? |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Aug 17, 2024 23:57:18 GMT
Never read that rubbish rag
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 18, 2024 1:04:40 GMT
Because it’s a non story by a rag that has no credibility? Is it? It sounds inkeeping with how we know that side of the club is run to me and she’s clearly been through the mill as have other female players for us. The stories that come out of the women’s team are consistently pretty horrific. I’d love for it to be bollocks. Sadly I don’t think it is and the retort from the club is pathetic. I’d be mortified if I was accused of such things and would want to quash it immediately. We "might" be trying to do things better with the women's team now (about time), but as you say they look to have been pretty shabbily treated for many years, from what we have probably both heard from several sources. |
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 18, 2024 1:20:30 GMT
Are we now accepting the Guardian as a reputable news source for disaffected sporting minorities ? Just Fuck Off. 😂😂😂😂 Anyone who does needs certifying. It really is a hideous cult of misinformation. It’s a first-hand interview. Which part do you suspect to be “misinformation”, bearing in mind we know this exact thing happened with another female Stoke player about a year ago? I don’t trust ANYTHING written by the Guardian. I also have no direct knowledge of the incident. I suspect you also have no direct knowledge of the incident. Therefore I will reserve judgement but stick with my instincts that the shit rag in questions deliberately omits certain facts to adhere to its agenda. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 18, 2024 1:23:25 GMT
It’s a first-hand interview. Which part do you suspect to be “misinformation”, bearing in mind we know this exact thing happened with another female Stoke player about a year ago? I don’t trust ANYTHING written by the Guardian. I also have no direct knowledge of the incident. I suspect you also have no direct knowledge of the incident. Therefore I will reserve judgement but stick with my instincts that the shit rag in questions deliberately omits certain facts to adhere to its agenda. You are dismissing the one person who does have a first account. The other party that has a first account chooses not to mention what that is…. |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 18, 2024 2:08:39 GMT
It’s a first-hand interview. Which part do you suspect to be “misinformation”, bearing in mind we know this exact thing happened with another female Stoke player about a year ago? I don’t trust ANYTHING written by the Guardian. I also have no direct knowledge of the incident. I suspect you also have no direct knowledge of the incident. Therefore I will reserve judgement but stick with my instincts that the shit rag in questions deliberately omits certain facts to adhere to its agenda. I’m not sure you’re grasping how interviews work - this is one person’s account of what happened to her. Of course there might be some facts omitted - if that’s the case it’s up to other people to put that right isn’t it. The club were asked for comment and said they couldn’t comment on individual players’ injuries (better tell the successive managers that give detailed updates on the men every week) I think the simplest explanation right now is that we’re still not insuring the women’s team for injuries just like we weren’t the last time this happened. |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 18, 2024 2:38:21 GMT
I don’t trust ANYTHING written by the Guardian. I also have no direct knowledge of the incident. I suspect you also have no direct knowledge of the incident. Therefore I will reserve judgement but stick with my instincts that the shit rag in questions deliberately omits certain facts to adhere to its agenda. I’m not sure you’re grasping how interviews work - this is one person’s account of what happened to her. Of course there might be some facts omitted - if that’s the case it’s up to other people to put that right isn’t it. The club were asked for comment and said they couldn’t comment on individual players’ injuries (better tell the successive managers that give detailed updates on the men every week) I think the simplest explanation right now is that we’re still not insuring the women’s team for injuries just like we weren’t the last time this happened. Reputationally seems quite risky to not have insurance in place. Is that standard practice for teams at that level? I have no idea |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 18, 2024 3:01:34 GMT
I’m not sure you’re grasping how interviews work - this is one person’s account of what happened to her. Of course there might be some facts omitted - if that’s the case it’s up to other people to put that right isn’t it. The club were asked for comment and said they couldn’t comment on individual players’ injuries (better tell the successive managers that give detailed updates on the men every week) I think the simplest explanation right now is that we’re still not insuring the women’s team for injuries just like we weren’t the last time this happened. Reputationally seems quite risky to not have insurance in place. Is that standard practice for teams at that level? I have no idea I wouldn’t know either tbh. But I struggle to see a justification for an elite professional sports club owned by gigantizillionaires not insuring their semi-professional athletes for injuries sustained while representing the club. |
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Post by davethebass on Aug 18, 2024 6:32:38 GMT
Do we, or the club, really think that Abby Hunt is lying about this? Or that the Guardian has misrepresented her story? You'd think that that would be highly unlikely, considering how simple it would be to investigate the truth of it. Plus if she was lying it would be all over social media by now. So common sense would seem to tell us that the Guardian has likely reported this correctly. So what is it that the club think is incorrect about this Guardian article? The only thing I can find in the article that seems to be incorrect is the following quoted statement from the club: "The club said: “All of Stoke’s women’s team, regardless of injury or contract status, were offered an end-of-season meeting with the head coach and her coaching team. The club’s investment in women’s football has increased year-on-year with the women’s team achieving semi-professional status from the 2023-24 season onwards – the team are paid, fully insured and benefit from investment in, and improvement to, the infrastructure and support available to them. Stoke City supports and is fully committed to the growth of women’s football.” " ...where it would seem the club are stating that the women's team were insured from the 2023-24 season onwards. But they weren't insured, as we know from the case of Kayleigh McDonald, who suffered an ACL injury in March 2024, and was not insured. And the Guardian article about Kayleigh, linked below, is known to be correct, it was all over social media and verified by umpteen people. So, are the club standing by their quoted statement? - and saying that it is incorrect to say that Abby Hunt was not insured? Or are the club saying that the quote of their statement is incorrect, and that they weren't actually stating that the women's team were insured from that date? If it is the latter, then the club can't argue with Abby's story as represented by that Guardian article. The fact of the matter is the quoted club statement is incorrect. Abby Hunt was not insured. www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/17/stoke-to-pay-for-kayleigh-mcdonalds-acl-surgery-after-her-gofundme-plea |
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Post by chipsaway on Aug 18, 2024 8:01:43 GMT
That's an horrific story which shows the Club in a very poor light. Well done to the Guardian for revealing this, perhaps it will incentivise the Club to treat people more fairly in future.
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 18, 2024 8:09:22 GMT
What's her problem? She's had to wait for NHS appointments and surgery, the same as the rest of the UK population?
What a fucking non-story. Unless The Guardian is planning on publishing every story of every person who has had to wait for appointments and also not had their employer pay for them to go private.
In his most recent interview Walters did briefly mention they've brought in Insurance for the Women's team this year, so it is something they've addressed as part of ongoing development. These things don't happen overnight.
Abby is in the same boat as millions of others.
It is what it is.
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Post by jay1610 on Aug 18, 2024 8:12:05 GMT
Never read that rubbish rag Oh that’s okay then, because the platform for this first-hand interview is one that doesn’t match your views, let’s just ignore it. Blimey. |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 18, 2024 9:21:08 GMT
What's her problem? She's had to wait for NHS appointments and surgery, the same as the rest of the UK population? What a fucking non-story. Unless The Guardian is planning on publishing every story of every person who has had to wait for appointments and also not had their employer pay for them to go private. In his most recent interview Walters did briefly mention they've brought in Insurance for the Women's team this year, so it is something they've addressed as part of ongoing development. These things don't happen overnight. Abby is in the same boat as millions of others. It is what it is. As a stoke fan I don't really like the story and I don't share your view |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 18, 2024 9:25:21 GMT
What's her problem? She's had to wait for NHS appointments and surgery, the same as the rest of the UK population? What a fucking non-story. Unless The Guardian is planning on publishing every story of every person who has had to wait for appointments and also not had their employer pay for them to go private. In his most recent interview Walters did briefly mention they've brought in Insurance for the Women's team this year, so it is something they've addressed as part of ongoing development. These things don't happen overnight. Abby is in the same boat as millions of others. It is what it is. If you've been injured at work even if your employer doesn't pay you to go private then you don't expect them to terminate your contract while you're unable to work. If your employer did that to you I'd imagine you'd have 'a problem'. |
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Post by delilahwhy on Aug 18, 2024 9:25:24 GMT
What's her problem? She's had to wait for NHS appointments and surgery, the same as the rest of the UK population? What a fucking non-story. Unless The Guardian is planning on publishing every story of every person who has had to wait for appointments and also not had their employer pay for them to go private. In his most recent interview Walters did briefly mention they've brought in Insurance for the Women's team this year, so it is something they've addressed as part of ongoing development. These things don't happen overnight. Abby is in the same boat as millions of others. It is what it is. As a stoke fan I don't really like the story and I don't share your view That's fair enough. We're not a charity though, we're a business. We're not going to throw huge amounts of money at a Division of the Business that returns very little. That's just common sense. It's not exactly a nice story to read but she's not alone in having to wait for NHS treatment and not having their employer pay for them to go private. |
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