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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 17, 2024 15:59:24 GMT
Nothing we didn't already know regarding the players, hopefully once the window shuts the starting 11 looks very different.
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Post by tommystoke123 on Aug 17, 2024 15:59:29 GMT
Gooch is Brek Shea with brown hair isn’t he?
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Post by sealion100 on Aug 17, 2024 15:59:30 GMT
Men versus boys …. Outplayed in every department
Especially tactically!!!!
Expect ed this last week … half a team …. Over to you SJW
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 17, 2024 15:59:54 GMT
Nothing we didn't already know regarding the players, hopefully once the window shuts the starting 11 looks very different. We say this every year and it never does. |
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Post by warringtonstokie on Aug 17, 2024 15:59:54 GMT
Disappointing but It’s only game 2 It’s not just game two though, is it? Follows the pattern of the past few years. |
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Post by JesusisaStokie on Aug 17, 2024 16:00:27 GMT
Disappointing but It’s only game 2 Exactly...3 points from a win and a loss is better than being undefeated with 2 draws... We WILL be much better come the end of the window Those massive gaps down the sides were nothing to do with the players. So obviously a tactical decision that has massively backfired |
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 17, 2024 16:01:33 GMT
Our obvious lack of physicality compared to other Championship Teams has been a glaringly obvious factor to our failings over the last few years. The one attribute that defined us during more successful times. Indeed, men against boys. Would have thought Walters would have identified that. Maybe Bosun will carry the threat of 10 men! ... other than that it's more featherweight pussys. You have a lot of faith in Walters based on absolutely nothing. I'm hoping we succeed but I think it's blind hope. We just about survived last season, this season could be much of a muchness. It all feels a bit random, unplanned, the same kind of bat shit we talk about when we discuss sacking managers. Who are our experts in the field with proven qualities? Vision? Now and again someone will come through and shine, but we shouldn't be the club to experiment with unproven, incapable etc, with our resources. I think we are the batshit club to be honest, is that misguided based on the last 7 years? If you evaluated John coates reign how else would you describe it? 😅 |
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:15 GMT
I'm at work so only saw the second half, was the first as bad as the second???
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:15 GMT
Biggest issues on todays performance have been Johansson - Though I still think he’s decent Junior - Total calamity of a player Bocat for the 2nd. Though I think he’s OK. All 3 CMs have been poor. Laurent having one of his couldn’t care less performances Gooch - 0 quality Tezgel - Just not ready yet. Way to lightweight The only player coming out of this performance with any credit is Million who’s looked lively. Hopefully a bad day at the office but very worrying the way we’ve collapsed 2nd half. Agree GK very poor for all 3 goals, let’s hope it’s a one off Junior as we knew out of his depth but Bocat poor today although clear after 30 minutes we were being ripped apart wide, not sure why we didn’t react tactically Midfield a real worry, Burger huge dip in form, Thompson we know is a squad player and Laurent never dominates games. We were totally outplayed Tezgel and Gooch are not starters and injury has limited our options, Bae and Koumas will improve us Million and Wilmott the stand outs today |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:52 GMT
All thats hqppened is the same as last seaso n first away game exposes all the weaknesses at the same time Anyone who thinks hoover and cundle . Iverson wont be missed got a explanation on the pitch today . The folly of signing injured or brittke players explained to management . The need to flex tactics and approach brutally showm to the manager Spine renaims dreadful and the bele9f that tezger . Mmaee ennis can contribute anything shown to be nonsense Very tough and absolutely expected lesson given. Still waiting for this different club, Benji? It's walking like a duck at present, it's still quacking like one too... We are very very different Different owneeship model Different senior management team Diffent keeper Different skipper Diffenent left back Different centre backs Different head of recruitment New fan zone Etc etc But Clearly some huge gaps to fill no quearion we are diffent question remains when will be any good my personal fear is manaager change if the going gets very tough |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 17, 2024 16:02:59 GMT
They’ve had 26 shots.
Absolutely shambolic.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 17, 2024 16:03:34 GMT
Well, I'll admit I didn't see that capitulation coming... I'm not even going to start trying to make sense of that. Started well, then 1-0, and suddenly we were totally outplayed on every deparment. Hopefully management and players have learned something today. |
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 17, 2024 16:03:45 GMT
I'm at work so only saw the second half, was the first as bad as the second??? No but both teams were shit they were a little better than us. We never looked like scoring, they did, but we never really turned up at all. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 17, 2024 16:05:25 GMT
Exactly...3 points from a win and a loss is better than being undefeated with 2 draws... We WILL be much better come the end of the window Those massive gaps down the sides were nothing to do with the players. So obviously a tactical decision that has massively backfired How did we not change at half time it was so blindingly obvious? |
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Post by theoptimist on Aug 17, 2024 16:06:00 GMT
Would have thought Walters would have identified that. Maybe Bosun will carry the threat of 10 men! ... other than that it's more featherweight pussys. You have a lot of faith in Walters based on absolutely nothing. I'm hoping we succeed but I think it's blind hope. We just about survived last season, this season could be much of a muchness. It all feels a bit random, unplanned, the same kind of bat shit we talk about when we discuss sacking managers. Who are our experts in the field with proven qualities? Vision? Now and again someone will come through and shine, but we shouldn't be the club to experiment with unproven, incapable etc, with our resources. I think we are the batshit club to be honest, is that misguided based on the last 7 years? If you evaluated John coates reign how else would you describe it? 😅 Wasn't saying I had ANY faith in SJW ... just thought that someone who made a carreer out of effort and putting himself about would identify that was an attribute sorely missing in this squad. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 16:08:08 GMT
Would have thought Walters would have identified that. Maybe Bosun will carry the threat of 10 men! ... other than that it's more featherweight pussys. You have a lot of faith in Walters based on absolutely nothing. I'm hoping we succeed but I think it's blind hope. We just about survived last season, this season could be much of a muchness. It all feels a bit random, unplanned, the same kind of bat shit we talk about when we discuss sacking managers. Who are our experts in the field with proven qualities? Vision? Now and again someone will come through and shine, but we shouldn't be the club to experiment with unproven, incapable etc, with our resources. I think we are the batshit club to be honest, is that misguided based on the last 7 years? If you evaluated John coates reign how else would you describe it? 😅 There's a lot of people that have some weird blind faith in Walters and I don't get it. He's clearly running the club for Coates now and is making some weird decisions. He spoke about the young players last season and foreign players needing experience yet so far we've signed 7 with 1 being another foreigner and three players being 21 and under, with 2 of those 3 never having played at this level before. One a complete greenhorn. He's also regularly lobbing out psycho-babble about a pathway for our own kids yet we've just signed two greenhorns that block the pathway of one of our own. That's before you get to the fact our only threatening forward so far is an 18 year old that has half a season's worth of experience in League Two. As usual, I'm sat looking at the situation from a supporters 'blind' point of view, analysing what people are saying Vs their actions and I'm just sat here scratching my head. Our answer to our goalscoring issues so far is a player that is supposedly better out wide than down the middle, with a long standing injury issue that he's currently out with again and a player that hasn't hit double figures since 2016. Our answer to the failed inverted full backs experiment last season, that was fixed by switching away from it, is to switch back to it again and try with two different players. The squad again looks ridiculously green in nature and completely powder puff. I mean, how fcuking hard is it Stoke? |
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Post by premieraj on Aug 17, 2024 16:09:21 GMT
Those massive gaps down the sides were nothing to do with the players. So obviously a tactical decision that has massively backfired How did we not change at half time it was so blindingly obvious? This! We were being murdered down the sides weren’t we! He could have gone 532 to make us more solid at least in my view. |
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Post by fca47 on Aug 17, 2024 16:10:12 GMT
Beaten by a better team in the end, did OK first half containing them, but once the floodgates opened we were all over the place. Thought we played an attacking formation without the players to carry it off .
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Post by canadianmoose on Aug 17, 2024 16:11:23 GMT
It mattered quite a bit today, as we played with fullbacks and were slaughtered in the 2nd half! That shit show of a performance has nothing to do with fullbacks, wingbacks or opposition formations. Players not strong enough or doing their job properly. Debating on the opposition playing fullbacks or wingbacks is a load of bollocks in relation to the bigger picture |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 17, 2024 16:11:24 GMT
I'm at work so only saw the second half, was the first as bad as the second??? No but both teams were shit they were a little better than us. We never looked like scoring, they did, but we never really turned up at all. I'm still at work, that'll do as a summary. |
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 17, 2024 16:12:31 GMT
Predicted a loss, and anticipated the guillotine being set up on here.
Molotov Cocktails all around landlord.
Another routine start to a season. (Somewhat, if it was really routine, we'd have lost the first match too)
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 17, 2024 16:13:23 GMT
Exactly...3 points from a win and a loss is better than being undefeated with 2 draws... We WILL be much better come the end of the window Those massive gaps down the sides were nothing to do with the players. So obviously a tactical decision that has massively backfired Naive in the extreme and the ground hes standing on isnt as firm as sone believe see oneil and neil both gone by the autumn |
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Aug 17, 2024 16:14:07 GMT
Surely this stops the post’s validating the inclusion of Thompson and Gooch.
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Post by chamberlain on Aug 17, 2024 16:14:21 GMT
Can we find a decent striker and stop signing midfielders ffs
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Post by monkeycat on Aug 17, 2024 16:15:58 GMT
Very unimpressed with Johannsen, always looks like a mistake waiting to happen
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Post by pavel on Aug 17, 2024 16:16:14 GMT
Utterly abject performance 2nd half, you could see them starting to boss the midfield midway through the first half. 2nd half they just walked through our midfield leaving the defence exposed and providing no platform going forward. I’d play Dixon at RB before junior as well.
Hope not to see that midfield again ever! Keeper not great today but left horribly exposed. 3-0 2nd half was very kind to us.
A huge amount of work needed but hopefully new recruits will help in midfield.
Up front we need really sort but Tezgel got no service today so that needs to change as well.
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Post by stoke1989 on Aug 17, 2024 16:17:03 GMT
Not sure how he could start same team that were abysmal for the 1st 45 minutes last week, replacing an inexperienced 18year old with an even less experienced 18 year old & not bringing on a goal threat in Baker is poor.
Although some defending leading upto the goals was poor, all 3 goals I believe Johansson could've done better
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Post by somersetpotter on Aug 17, 2024 16:17:16 GMT
We’ll be fine. We were the better team they had a better start to the second half and momentum was with them. Few people back from injury and a few signings and we’ll be playoffs bound have faith
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Post by peterthornesboots on Aug 17, 2024 16:18:18 GMT
I thought that first half we were ok. It was a pretty even game and we looked solid even if we didn't offer much going forward.
Second half we got absolutely hammered for 25 minutes. 3-0 probably flatters us really.
Back to earth with a bump after a good opening week.
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Post by march4 on Aug 17, 2024 16:19:49 GMT
Watford are likely to be struggling at the wrong end of the table this season.
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