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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 22, 2024 9:18:00 GMT
Yep, he's bang on. See Muslim grooming gangs for further information on two tier policing. Our police force has badly lost its way. Very different to how law and order is implemented in many other great European nations such as Germany and Poland. Don't you recognise the MO of how these far right groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds). 2 Spam prospective recruitment channels (like Football fanzines) with material that implies it's the fault of immigrants and esoecially Muslim immigrants (loads of examples of this on this thread even though the incident appears to be a random selection of young idiots kicking off on the back of an incident involving a Romani family). 3 Randomly associate event with the Rochdale grooming gangs (well done you for picking up and amplifying that one). 4 Show video of "concerned local" donoughted by ordinary citizens in the background (this particular "concerned local" is disappointed that they couldn't organise a bigger crowd and is attending, hopefully, a bigger one shortly in London) 5 Throw in 2 tier policing and white indigenous Brits being second class citizens to elicit sympathy even though they weren't the victims of the actual event. Rinse and repeat. It's clear that the police and other authorities mishandled the Rochdale grooming gangs gangs but it has nothing to do with what happened in Leeds. There needs to be a report on what happened in the original incident and it's unclear as to whether the authorities mishandled the situation. In terms of handling the riot they seem to have done a good job. No-one was hurt, a couple of vehicles were damaged and the police made arrests after everything had calmed down. Would the outcome have been any better if the police had ploughed in with battons and water cannon? Had they done that they would certainly have been casualties and its more than likely it would have escalated the problem. This isn't an example of two tier policing. It's an example if the police assessing the situation and (rightly) determining that a softly softly approach was the best way of handling the situation. This thread is a perfect example of the far right social media playbook.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 22, 2024 9:21:51 GMT
UrbanScoop is just an account designed to regurgitate stuff put out by the likes of Tommy Robinson, Paul Golding and other far right activists pedaling an Islamophobic/racist agenda with the deliberate intent of inciting hatred towards Muslims and recruiting members to the cause. You have become a willing participant in a network of social media "influencers" pedaling a far right racist agenda on this message board. This fanzine should not be an echo chamber for wankers inciting racial hatred and Stoke City Football Club should not be associated with this shit. You're a disgrace to this club. And this message board isn’t an echo chamber for you to hurl abuse at someone for having a different opinion to your own. wind your neck in and chill ffs. This is not someone expressing an opinion. Its someone using this message board to peddle a far right racist agenda using material deliberately created by the far right for that very purpose. The poster isn't even bothering to express a personal opinion anymore - they are just reposting the material as is.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 22, 2024 9:25:38 GMT
UrbanScoop is just an account designed to regurgitate stuff put out by the likes of Tommy Robinson, Paul Golding and other far right activists pedaling an Islamophobic/racist agenda with the deliberate intent of inciting hatred towards Muslims and recruiting members to the cause. You have become a willing participant in a network of social media "influencers" pedaling a far right racist agenda on this message board. This fanzine should not be an echo chamber for wankers inciting racial hatred and Stoke City Football Club should not be associated with this shit. You're a disgrace to this club. I don’t give a flying fuck what you think to be honest and as for being an influencer😂😂you really are clueless. What is said on that video is bang on the money and folk like you need to wake up before it’s too late
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 22, 2024 9:27:13 GMT
You (and others on here) seem to revel at this kind of thing, Who are you sticking up for and why ?
Revel in what?
I was the first person on the thread to suggest that the source of the riot was actually a Romani family and not a Muslim uprising, as was being suggested elsewhere.
And then when somebody else makes the same point a few days later, you somehow bizarrely regard that as 'tucking Paul up in bed'. I'm sure you can see that you're comment doesn't actually make a lot of sense.
Who am I 'sticking up for'? ... it's not football match, where we're obliged to take sides.
If I'm sticking up for anything, I guess, it's the truth.
Right from the get go, your Farage's, Robinson's and Wootons of this world, attempted to hijack the riot and portray it as being some sort of Muslim uprising when in actual fact, it was a riot that consisted of many different races, living in one of the most deprived areas of Britain.
Their type of rhetoric is not helpful and does absolutely nothing to bring people together, not only is it false but it is inflammatory and dangerous.
Not quite as dangerous as actual riots in streets mind.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2024 9:44:02 GMT
Yeah, it's bollocks, isn't it, but that's Farage's biggest fanboy for you. Quite obviously referring to people from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which everybody understands to be the sub-continent. Apart from Badge, of course 😂 (Keep net reference incoming!) Straight into the keepnet Well, I think we can both agree to wish good luck to the Subcontinent in next year's Ryder Cup
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 22, 2024 9:51:04 GMT
UrbanScoop is just an account designed to regurgitate stuff put out by the likes of Tommy Robinson, Paul Golding and other far right activists pedaling an Islamophobic/racist agenda with the deliberate intent of inciting hatred towards Muslims and recruiting members to the cause. You have become a willing participant in a network of social media "influencers" pedaling a far right racist agenda on this message board. This fanzine should not be an echo chamber for wankers inciting racial hatred and Stoke City Football Club should not be associated with this shit. You're a disgrace to this club. Are you in the least bit surprised?
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 22, 2024 10:01:22 GMT
Straight into the keepnet Well, I think we can both agree to wish good luck to the Subcontinent in next year's Ryder Cup Not whilst it’s represented by a blue and yellow stared flag
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Post by gawa on Jul 22, 2024 10:05:04 GMT
At the moment people are coming from countries like Bangladesh and not being removed. What we really need is to get staff back in the returns units and get flights going off again to remove these people back to the countries they came from like we used to do.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 22, 2024 10:20:22 GMT
UrbanScoop is just an account designed to regurgitate stuff put out by the likes of Tommy Robinson, Paul Golding and other far right activists pedaling an Islamophobic/racist agenda with the deliberate intent of inciting hatred towards Muslims and recruiting members to the cause. You have become a willing participant in a network of social media "influencers" pedaling a far right racist agenda on this message board. This fanzine should not be an echo chamber for wankers inciting racial hatred and Stoke City Football Club should not be associated with this shit. You're a disgrace to this club. And this message board isn’t an echo chamber for you to hurl abuse at someone for having a different opinion to your own. wind your neck in and chill ffs. Posting race hate is not "expressing an opinion" mate. It's divisive and dangerous and needs challenging every time it appears.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2024 10:20:35 GMT
Yep, he's bang on. See Muslim grooming gangs for further information on two tier policing. Our police force has badly lost its way. Very different to how law and order is implemented in many other great European nations such as Germany and Poland. Don't you recognise the MO of how these far right groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds). 2 Spam prospective recruitment channels (like Football fanzines) with material that implies it's the fault of immigrants and esoecially Muslim immigrants (loads of examples of this on this thread even though the incident appears to be a random selection of young idiots kicking off on the back of an incident involving a Romani family). 3 Randomly associate event with the Rochdale grooming gangs (well done you for picking up and amplifying that one). 4 Show video of "concerned local" donoughted by ordinary citizens in the background (this particular "concerned local" is disappointed that they couldn't organise a bigger crowd and is attending, hopefully, a bigger one shortly in London) 5 Throw in 2 tier policing and white indigenous Brits being second class citizens to elicit sympathy even though they weren't the victims of the actual event. Rinse and repeat. It's clear that the police and other authorities mishandled the Rochdale grooming gangs gangs but it has nothing to do with what happened in Leeds. There needs to be a report on what happened in the original incident and it's unclear as to whether the authorities mishandled the situation. In terms of handling the riot they seem to have done a good job. No-one was hurt, a couple of vehicles were damaged and the police made arrests after everything had calmed down. Would the outcome have been any better if the police had ploughed in with battons and water cannon? Had they done that they would certainly have been casualties and its more than likely it would have escalated the problem. This isn't an example of two tier policing. It's an example if the police assessing the situation and (rightly) determining that a softly softly approach was the best way of handling the situation. This thread is a perfect example of the far right social media playbook. There is a sizeable rump of people in the UK who just don't like foreign-looking people and/or those who don't fit the general "white/'Christian'/straight" profile. And they always become highly vocal whenever stuff like this happens in those "non-conforming" communities. Not quite so bothered when "white/'Christian'/straight" lads cause similar trouble eg the rioting at Wembley at the Euros final. Nor are they particularly vexed at 175,000 Ukrainians moving to the UK, nor 300,000 Hong Kong nationals....there's very much a fixation on certain sections of society and you can understand why some people question the motive for the particular focus on these people and not others, and consider it somewhat racist in its basis.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2024 10:23:10 GMT
Well, I think we can both agree to wish good luck to the Subcontinent in next year's Ryder Cup Not whilst it’s represented by a blue and yellow stared flag Come on, the subcontinent
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 22, 2024 10:46:44 GMT
Yep, he's bang on. See Muslim grooming gangs for further information on two tier policing. Our police force has badly lost its way. Very different to how law and order is implemented in many other great European nations such as Germany and Poland. Don't you recognise the MO of how these far right groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds). 2 Spam prospective recruitment channels (like Football fanzines) with material that implies it's the fault of immigrants and esoecially Muslim immigrants (loads of examples of this on this thread even though the incident appears to be a random selection of young idiots kicking off on the back of an incident involving a Romani family). 3 Randomly associate event with the Rochdale grooming gangs (well done you for picking up and amplifying that one). 4 Show video of "concerned local" donoughted by ordinary citizens in the background (this particular "concerned local" is disappointed that they couldn't organise a bigger crowd and is attending, hopefully, a bigger one shortly in London) 5 Throw in 2 tier policing and white indigenous Brits being second class citizens to elicit sympathy even though they weren't the victims of the actual event. Rinse and repeat. It's clear that the police and other authorities mishandled the Rochdale grooming gangs gangs but it has nothing to do with what happened in Leeds. There needs to be a report on what happened in the original incident and it's unclear as to whether the authorities mishandled the situation. In terms of handling the riot they seem to have done a good job. No-one was hurt, a couple of vehicles were damaged and the police made arrests after everything had calmed down. Would the outcome have been any better if the police had ploughed in with battons and water cannon? Had they done that they would certainly have been casualties and its more than likely it would have escalated the problem. This isn't an example of two tier policing. It's an example if the police assessing the situation and (rightly) determining that a softly softly approach was the best way of handling the situation. This thread is a perfect example of the far right social media playbook. It's so obvious and transparent that it beggars belief that people cannot recognise it. And it's been going on for a long time. An extremely long time. Division, confusion, suspicion and fear* (these days it sometimes masquerades under the euphemism "disruption") are one of the fundamental tools deployed by those with wealth, influence and in particular power - to preserve their wealth, influence and in particular power. It's a very effective tool, however, and it's worked for centuries. I doubt that many (if any) people on here (or much more widely) are likely to be persuaded to change their view by you (and definitely not me). And that in my view is the dispiriting problem. *Edit - it genuinely isn't a politically loaded observation, but just clocked that that sounds a bit like the weaponry of the Spanish Inquisition.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 22, 2024 10:50:21 GMT
Not whilst it’s represented by a blue and yellow stared flag Come on, the subcontinent And the Sub-continent's douze points go to...dramatic pause...anyone but the UK!
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 22, 2024 10:50:54 GMT
Don't you recognise the MO of how these far right groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds). 2 Spam prospective recruitment channels (like Football fanzines) with material that implies it's the fault of immigrants and esoecially Muslim immigrants (loads of examples of this on this thread even though the incident appears to be a random selection of young idiots kicking off on the back of an incident involving a Romani family). 3 Randomly associate event with the Rochdale grooming gangs (well done you for picking up and amplifying that one). 4 Show video of "concerned local" donoughted by ordinary citizens in the background (this particular "concerned local" is disappointed that they couldn't organise a bigger crowd and is attending, hopefully, a bigger one shortly in London) 5 Throw in 2 tier policing and white indigenous Brits being second class citizens to elicit sympathy even though they weren't the victims of the actual event. Rinse and repeat. It's clear that the police and other authorities mishandled the Rochdale grooming gangs gangs but it has nothing to do with what happened in Leeds. There needs to be a report on what happened in the original incident and it's unclear as to whether the authorities mishandled the situation. In terms of handling the riot they seem to have done a good job. No-one was hurt, a couple of vehicles were damaged and the police made arrests after everything had calmed down. Would the outcome have been any better if the police had ploughed in with battons and water cannon? Had they done that they would certainly have been casualties and its more than likely it would have escalated the problem. This isn't an example of two tier policing. It's an example if the police assessing the situation and (rightly) determining that a softly softly approach was the best way of handling the situation. This thread is a perfect example of the far right social media playbook. There is a sizeable rump of people in the UK who just don't like foreign-looking people and/or those who don't fit the general "white/'Christian'/straight" profile. And they always become highly vocal whenever stuff like this happens in those "non-conforming" communities. Not quite so bothered when "white/'Christian'/straight" lads cause similar trouble eg the rioting at Wembley at the Euros final. Nor are they particularly vexed at 175,000 Ukrainians moving to the UK, nor 300,000 Hong Kong nationals....there's very much a fixation on certain sections of society and you can understand why some people question the motive for the particular focus on these people and not others, and consider it somewhat racist in its basis. Generalisations like that first paragraph are as dangerous as anything spouted on the right. It's inaccurate, you can't prove it and does absolutely nothing to help your arguments. It's a generalisation that if someone said about a minority group you'd spit your tea out and shout racism.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2024 11:07:01 GMT
Bige Nige really does need to brush up on his Geography homework if he doesn't want people accusing him of being a racist ...
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 22, 2024 11:13:34 GMT
Yep, he's bang on. See Muslim grooming gangs for further information on two tier policing. Our police force has badly lost its way. Very different to how law and order is implemented in many other great European nations such as Germany and Poland. Don't you recognise the MO of how these far right groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds). 2 Spam prospective recruitment channels (like Football fanzines) with material that implies it's the fault of immigrants and esoecially Muslim immigrants (loads of examples of this on this thread even though the incident appears to be a random selection of young idiots kicking off on the back of an incident involving a Romani family). 3 Randomly associate event with the Rochdale grooming gangs (well done you for picking up and amplifying that one). 4 Show video of "concerned local" donoughted by ordinary citizens in the background (this particular "concerned local" is disappointed that they couldn't organise a bigger crowd and is attending, hopefully, a bigger one shortly in London) 5 Throw in 2 tier policing and white indigenous Brits being second class citizens to elicit sympathy even though they weren't the victims of the actual event. Rinse and repeat. It's clear that the police and other authorities mishandled the Rochdale grooming gangs gangs but it has nothing to do with what happened in Leeds. There needs to be a report on what happened in the original incident and it's unclear as to whether the authorities mishandled the situation. In terms of handling the riot they seem to have done a good job. No-one was hurt, a couple of vehicles were damaged and the police made arrests after everything had calmed down. Would the outcome have been any better if the police had ploughed in with battons and water cannon? Had they done that they would certainly have been casualties and its more than likely it would have escalated the problem. This isn't an example of two tier policing. It's an example if the police assessing the situation and (rightly) determining that a softly softly approach was the best way of handling the situation. This thread is a perfect example of the far right social media playbook. The police didn't mishandle the grooming gangs , they deliberately ignored the victims in the interest of community relations.
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Post by foster on Jul 22, 2024 11:15:04 GMT
It's almost like this riot in Leeds, caused and perpetrated by (in the main) minority groups didn't happen.
All we have is a bunch of middle aged white guys making stuff up.
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Post by gawa on Jul 22, 2024 11:30:52 GMT
It's almost like this riot in Leeds, caused and perpetrated by (in the main) minority groups didn't happen. All we have is a bunch of middle aged white guys making stuff up. I stand with our prime minister on this and blame the Bengalis personally.
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Post by sticky on Jul 22, 2024 11:34:02 GMT
Looked to me like some local people were being asked to give an opinion on the riots and the area in general.. is that not allowed anymore then?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 22, 2024 11:35:49 GMT
Looked to me like some local people were being asked to give an opinion on the riots and the area in general.. is that not allowed anymore then? Not if they’re English no
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 22, 2024 11:39:28 GMT
Looked to me like some local people were being asked to give an opinion on the riots and the area in general.. is that not allowed anymore then? Not by the far left on here.
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Post by foster on Jul 22, 2024 11:41:00 GMT
Don't you recognise the MO of how these far right groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds). 2 Spam prospective recruitment channels (like Football fanzines) with material that implies it's the fault of immigrants and esoecially Muslim immigrants (loads of examples of this on this thread even though the incident appears to be a random selection of young idiots kicking off on the back of an incident involving a Romani family). 3 Randomly associate event with the Rochdale grooming gangs (well done you for picking up and amplifying that one). 4 Show video of "concerned local" donoughted by ordinary citizens in the background (this particular "concerned local" is disappointed that they couldn't organise a bigger crowd and is attending, hopefully, a bigger one shortly in London) 5 Throw in 2 tier policing and white indigenous Brits being second class citizens to elicit sympathy even though they weren't the victims of the actual event. Rinse and repeat. It's clear that the police and other authorities mishandled the Rochdale grooming gangs gangs but it has nothing to do with what happened in Leeds. There needs to be a report on what happened in the original incident and it's unclear as to whether the authorities mishandled the situation. In terms of handling the riot they seem to have done a good job. No-one was hurt, a couple of vehicles were damaged and the police made arrests after everything had calmed down. Would the outcome have been any better if the police had ploughed in with battons and water cannon? Had they done that they would certainly have been casualties and its more than likely it would have escalated the problem. This isn't an example of two tier policing. It's an example if the police assessing the situation and (rightly) determining that a softly softly approach was the best way of handling the situation. This thread is a perfect example of the far right social media playbook. The police didn't mishandle the grooming gangs , they deliberately ignored the victims in the interest of community relations. Don't you recognise the MO of how these far left groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds), that the general population are suffering because of. 2 Spam edited clips of local non white people that portrays them in a positive light, and disregard any that don't. 3 Disregard any negative action from the event unless you can identify a white person doing it, preferably a middle aged male. That's the sweet spot. If you find one then use that as an example to claim that everyone else is innocent. 4 Ignore and disregard anything from the real world. If it doesn't impact you personally then it doesn't exist. 5 If anyone provides facts about the event then deflect the topic of discussion by insinuating that they are racist. 6 if they continue to tell the truth then ridicule them further by insinuating they're racist and making fun of them publicly. 7 keep calling them racist until the topic of discussion is fully deflected. If needed, bring in clips of Nigel Farage or Tommy Robinson to detract further from the actual topic at hand. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2024 11:44:00 GMT
Bige Nige really does need to brush up on his Geography homework if he doesn't want people accusing him of being a racist ... I assume he meant to say “African American”, which in this case, is wrong as well.
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 22, 2024 11:44:47 GMT
The police didn't mishandle the grooming gangs , they deliberately ignored the victims in the interest of community relations. Don't you recognise the MO of how these far left groups pick on this sort of incident to further their agenda? 1 Find bad event (riot in Leeds), that the general population are suffering because of. 2 Spam edited clips of local non white people that portrays them in a positive light, and disregard any that don't. 3 Disregard any negative action from the event unless you can identify a white person doing it, preferably a middle aged male. That's the sweet spot. If you find one then use that as an example to claim that everyone else is innocent. 4 Ignore and disregard anything from the real world. If it doesn't impact you personally then it doesn't exist. 5 If anyone provides facts about the event then deflect the topic of discussion by insinuating that they are racist. 6 if they continue to tell the truth then ridicule them further by insinuating they're racist and making fun of them publicly. 7 keep calling them racist until the topic of discussion is fully deflected. If needed, bring in clips of Nigel Farage or Tommy Robinson to detract further from the actual topic at hand. Rinse and repeat. I think that pretty much sums it up
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2024 12:01:43 GMT
There is a sizeable rump of people in the UK who just don't like foreign-looking people and/or those who don't fit the general "white/'Christian'/straight" profile. And they always become highly vocal whenever stuff like this happens in those "non-conforming" communities. Not quite so bothered when "white/'Christian'/straight" lads cause similar trouble eg the rioting at Wembley at the Euros final. Nor are they particularly vexed at 175,000 Ukrainians moving to the UK, nor 300,000 Hong Kong nationals....there's very much a fixation on certain sections of society and you can understand why some people question the motive for the particular focus on these people and not others, and consider it somewhat racist in its basis. Generalisations like that first paragraph are as dangerous as anything spouted on the right. It's inaccurate, you can't prove it and does absolutely nothing to help your arguments.It's a generalisation that if someone said about a minority group you'd spit your tea out and shout racism. I pretty much can prove it: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27599401#:~:text=Nearly%20a%20third%20of%20people,level%20of%2030%20years%20ago. Educate yourself. www.statista.com/statistics/1123242/opinion-on-racism-in-uk-society/
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2024 12:12:32 GMT
Looked to me like some local people were being asked to give an opinion on the riots and the area in general.. is that not allowed anymore then? Not if they’re English no You get thrown in prison for just admitting to being English. These days.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 22, 2024 12:13:23 GMT
Not if they’re English no You get thrown in prison for just admitting to being English. These days. That was before labour took over.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 22, 2024 12:14:47 GMT
You get thrown in prison for just admitting to being English. These days. That was before labour took over. Bloody leftie Tories
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 22, 2024 12:16:20 GMT
Looked to me like some local people were being asked to give an opinion on the riots and the area in general.. is that not allowed anymore then? Following the party line they should "shut their mouths for the good of diversity."
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 22, 2024 12:18:32 GMT
Are the respondents to that survey all white British?
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