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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 16:48:00 GMT
Apologies if this has been posted before but it certainly seems like there was a mixture of different races involved, contrary to what Farage was suggesting ... No one has denied “other races” were “involved” have they? I’ve only read the best bits of the thread so may not have seen. What did Big Nige say? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 21, 2024 16:53:37 GMT
Apologies if this has been posted before but it certainly seems like there was a mixture of different races involved, contrary to what Farage was suggesting ... I’m sure there were and there’s good and bad in all cultures and religions but it would be naive to think that the majority of those involved weren’t from the Roma community from seeing the majority of the footage from the initial incident. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 16:56:14 GMT
Apologies if this has been posted before but it certainly seems like there was a mixture of different races involved, contrary to what Farage was suggesting ... I’m sure there were and there’s good and bad in all cultures and religions but it would be naive to think that the majority of those involved weren’t from the Roma community from seeing the majority of the footage from the initial incident. I don't think the majority of those involved WERE from the Roma community, what makes you think it was? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 21, 2024 17:14:42 GMT
I’m sure there were and there’s good and bad in all cultures and religions but it would be naive to think that the majority of those involved weren’t from the Roma community from seeing the majority of the footage from the initial incident. I don't think the majority of those involved WERE from the Roma community, what makes you think it was? From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 17:16:27 GMT
I don't think the majority of those involved WERE from the Roma community, what makes you think it was? From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them. Nope the were white British and they’re all blaming Muslim's. Come on Cobs |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 17:21:56 GMT
No one has denied “other races” were “involved” have they? I’ve only read the best bits of the thread so may not have seen. What did Big Nige say? So he said “sub continent” which is correct isn’t it? |
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Post by Foster on Jul 21, 2024 17:32:42 GMT
From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them. Nope the were white British and they’re all blaming Muslim's. Come on Cobs Best add a smiley in their quick mate otherwise people might think you're serious. 😀 |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 21, 2024 17:40:53 GMT
Anyway...any updates on the arrests and knock on effects of the riot? No repeat in Leeds and no copy cat riots elsewhere. It seems the great British summer rioting season has gone to the dogs just like everything else in this country. We don't seem to be able to do anything properly anymore! It's the calm before the civil war 😂 |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 18:52:37 GMT
So he said “sub continent” which is correct isn’t it?
Seriously?
No.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 18:54:54 GMT
I don't think the majority of those involved WERE from the Roma community, what makes you think it was? From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them.
So you're actually indeed disagreeing with Farage then?
Romania isn't in the sub-continent.
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Post by henry on Jul 21, 2024 18:55:43 GMT
I don't think the majority of those involved WERE from the Roma community, what makes you think it was? From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them. That's just tucked Paul up in bed.  |
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 21, 2024 18:58:10 GMT
No repeat in Leeds and no copy cat riots elsewhere. It seems the great British summer rioting season has gone to the dogs just like everything else in this country. We don't seem to be able to do anything properly anymore! It's the calm before the civil war 😂 Summer’s not done yet. I expect it will kick off at Glyndebourne. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 18:58:38 GMT
So he said “sub continent” which is correct isn’t it?
Seriously?
No.
Many people including experts in the field of geography call Europe a subcontinent. So that’s good enough for me and indeed Nige |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 21, 2024 19:01:57 GMT
From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them. So you're actually indeed disagreeing with Farage then? Romania isn't in the sub-continent.
It’s not about agreeing or disagreeing for me. I’m not some sort of fanboy who feels obliged to agree with a politician solely because of some sort of loyalty. I like to make my own mind up from what I see rather than what I think I should say. So yes I am though I have to be honest I’m not quite sure what he means by “sub continent.” |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:02:18 GMT
From - the vast majority of the footage I’ve seen, - the name of the gentleman that was arrested for setting fire to the coach, - those involved in the initial incident being from the Roma community and there friends being called as was reported. - The local community being heavily made up from the Roma community as was stated by the local council who are currently trying to build bridges with them. That's just tucked Paul up in bed. Really? I thought it started with a white Romani family? Please, correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:03:24 GMT
So you're actually indeed disagreeing with Farage then? Romania isn't in the sub-continent.
It’s not about agreeing or disagreeing for me. I’m not some sort of fanboy who feels obliged to agree with a politician solely because of some sort of loyalty. I like to make my own mind up from what I see rather than what I think I should say. So yes I am.
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Post by henry on Jul 21, 2024 19:06:02 GMT
That's just tucked Paul up in bed. Really? I thought it started with a white Romani family? Please, correct me if I'm wrong. You (and others on here) seem to revel at this kind of thing, Who are you sticking up for and why ? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:07:29 GMT
Many people including experts in the field of geography call Europe a subcontinent. So that’s good enough for me and indeed Nige
If you genuinely believe that Farage was referring to Europe in his comments, then I have no words.
The clip I posted, was of a local Muslim leader tackling a white lad who was attempting to throw a pallet onto the bonfire, which was completely at odds with the narrative that Farage and others were attempting to portray.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 19:09:38 GMT
Many people including experts in the field of geography call Europe a subcontinent. So that’s good enough for me and indeed Nige
If you genuinely believe that Farage was referring to Europe in his comments, then I have no words.
The clip I posted, was of a local Muslim leader tackling a white lad who was attempting to throw a pallet onto the bonfire, which was completely at odds with the narrative that Farage and others were attempting to portray.
It’s ok to be wrong you know😉 |
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Post by Waggy on Jul 21, 2024 19:11:03 GMT
Not sure if anything been put previous in this post because only just seen this but we should go back to primarily recruiting new police officers from the military.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 19:17:02 GMT
You (and others on here) seem to revel at this kind of thing, Who are you sticking up for and why ?
Revel in what?
I was the first person on the thread to suggest that the source of the riot was actually a Romani family and not a Muslim uprising, as was being suggested elsewhere.
And then when somebody else makes the same point a few days later, you somehow bizarrely regard that as 'tucking Paul up in bed'. I'm sure you can see that you're comment doesn't actually make a lot of sense.
Who am I 'sticking up for'? ... it's not football match, where we're obliged to take sides.
If I'm sticking up for anything, I guess, it's the truth.
Right from the get go, your Farage's, Robinson's and Wootons of this world, attempted to hijack the riot and portray it as being some sort of Muslim uprising when in actual fact, it was a riot that consisted of many different races, living in one of the most deprived areas of Britain.
Their type of rhetoric is not helpful and does absolutely nothing to bring people together, not only is it false but it is inflammatory and dangerous.
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Post by henry on Jul 21, 2024 19:27:02 GMT
You (and others on here) seem to revel at this kind of thing, Who are you sticking up for and why ? Revel in what? I was the first person on the thread to suggest that the source of the riot was actually a Romani family and not a Muslim uprising, as was being suggested elsewhere. And then when somebody else makes the same point a few days later, you somehow bizarrely regard that as 'tucking Paul up in bed'. I'm sure you can see that you're comment doesn't actually make a lot of sense. Who am I 'sticking up for'? ... it's not football match, where we're obliged to take sides. If I'm sticking up for anything, I guess, it's the truth. Right from the get go, your Farage's, Robinson's and Wootons of this world, attempted to hijack the riot and portray it as being some sort of Muslim uprising when in actual fact, it was a riot that consisted of many different races, living in one of the most deprived areas of Britain. Their type of rhetoric is not helpful and does absolutely nothing to bring people together, not only is it false but it is inflammatory and dangerous.
The main media made it clear it was started by the Romanian people, who are you trying to convince otherwise. I only speed read some the posts from Friday night, but didn't you liken and brush it off as some sort of minor Brixton riot ? apologies if not. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 20:32:11 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 20:48:15 GMT
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Post by Foster on Jul 21, 2024 21:07:18 GMT
Got to admire how these nutbars are using the plight of Gazans for their own personal gain. Where is their outrage when it comes to Ukrainians? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 21:08:25 GMT
Yeah, he's the guy stopping the white guys rioting in Leeds and telling people to respect their community. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 21:14:42 GMT
Yeah, he's the guy stopping the white guys rioting in Leeds and telling people to respect their community. There really is no hope for you if you think this is acceptable in the U.K. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 21:19:52 GMT
Yeah, he's the guy stopping the white guys rioting in Leeds and telling people to respect their community. There really is no hope for you if you think this is acceptable in the U.K. What is unacceptable? He ran a campaign on an anti Labour/pro Palestine ticket and won. If Labour had stuck to their decades old policy of being pro Palestine, he probably would have had no chance. He was the one who was out there attempting to stop the locals smashing up their neighbourhood, not sat 4,000 miles away, attempting to inflame the situation. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 21, 2024 21:22:36 GMT
There really is no hope for you if you think this is acceptable in the U.K. What is unacceptable? He ran a campaign on an anti Labour/pro Palestine ticket and won. If Labour had stuck to their decades old policy of being pro Palestine, he probably would have had no chance. He was the one who was out there attempting to stop the locals smashing up their neighbourhood, not sat 4,000 miles away, attempting to inflame the situation. Your sanctimony and downright ignorance knows no bounds. Good night |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2024 21:25:12 GMT
What is unacceptable? He ran a campaign on an anti Labour/pro Palestine ticket and won. If Labour had stuck to their decades old policy of being pro Palestine, he probably would have had no chance. He was the one who was out there attempting to stop the locals smashing up their neighbourhood, not sat 4,000 miles away, attempting to inflame the situation. Your sanctimony and downright ignorance knows no bounds. Good night I thinks that's actually you chap on the face of it. I've I given you a full, frank and respectful reply to your question, why are you seemingly incapable of doing the same? |
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