jnb14
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Post by jnb14 on Jul 16, 2024 10:58:40 GMT
Nowadays with the gigantic coverage of football, we can see for ourselves. However, when live matches and even highlights were as rare as hen's teeth it's fascinating to see what it was actually like.
Someone edited this to highlight Sir Stan. What I picked up... Stan is 41 years old. The noise from the crowd and the cheers for Stan. There's one or two of the Busby Babes out there too, Taylor and all too briefly, Duncan Edwards.
Any road, see for yourselves.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 16, 2024 11:58:28 GMT
Two minutes into the highlights and I thought 'wow, that full back had a torrid game against Matthews'. Then the commentator said it was only 15 minutes in!
The footage is extraordinary. Four of those players would go on to win the World Cup for Brazil in two years time, but a 41-year-old Matthews is just tearing the defence apart.
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Post by march4 on Jul 16, 2024 12:04:53 GMT
The full back was Nilton Santos, reputedly the best left back in the world at the time.
I believe he left the field in tears with 10 mins left as Stan took him apart yet again.
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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 12:09:41 GMT
Important to remember that Stan was actually at his best 15 to 20 years before this game
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Jul 16, 2024 12:37:35 GMT
The British Pathe account on YouTube is a really good source for old footage, in a bit better resolution than the above:
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Post by baystokie on Jul 16, 2024 17:28:48 GMT
Two minutes into the highlights and I thought 'wow, that full back had a torrid game against Matthews'. Then the commentator said it was only 15 minutes in! The footage is extraordinary. Four of those players would go on to win the World Cup for Brazil in two years time, but a 41-year-old Matthews is just tearing the defence apart. How strange (and refreshing) to see goalscorers merely raise their hand and then trot back to the centre. Nobody saw the necessity of sliding yards on their knees and disappearing under their team mates for a 2 minutes love-in. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 16, 2024 17:37:11 GMT
Two minutes into the highlights and I thought 'wow, that full back had a torrid game against Matthews'. Then the commentator said it was only 15 minutes in! The footage is extraordinary. Four of those players would go on to win the World Cup for Brazil in two years time, but a 41-year-old Matthews is just tearing the defence apart. How strange (and refreshing) to see goalscorers merely raise their hand and then trot back to the centre. Nobody saw the necessity of sliding yards on their knees and disappearing under their team mates for a 2 minutes love-in. of time wasting. Think that’s what you meant to say. |
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Post by flea79 on Jul 17, 2024 10:37:06 GMT
John Barnes was on Talksport the other day and was asked about who is the greatest player of all time Messi or Ronaldo and his answer was Stanley Matthews!
he did say that the greatest players of the generations would have been the greatest players of whatever generation they were playing in due to insane natural talent and aptitude to the game, they would have flourished at any period
he namechecked pele, maradonna and host of others too
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 17, 2024 10:56:48 GMT
This was the team:
Reg Matthews
DefenderRoger Byrne
DefenderRonnie Clayton
Defender/MidfielderBilly Wright (captain)
Full backJeff Hall
MidfielderDuncan Edwards
Outside LeftColin Grainger
Centre forwardJohn Atyeo
ForwardJohnny Haynes
ForwardStan Matthews
ForwardTommy Taylor
Great to see names like Colin, Reg, Tommy and Stan etc Had Finney ended his England career by then?
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Post by pavel on Jul 17, 2024 11:07:52 GMT
I think a lot of people (even from Stoke) forget how special he was due to the lack of footage, I was lucky to see him the season we were promoted and the year after, he was still beating fullback's and other defenders for fun and amazingly outpacing them as well and he was twice their age. A very special player who would have absolutely thrived in this era especially with the protection he would have got, mind you he was so good protection was rarely an issue as defenders rarely got near him.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 19, 2024 11:10:26 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jul 19, 2024 12:12:04 GMT
I think a lot of people (even from Stoke) forget how special he was due to the lack of footage, I was lucky to see him the season we were promoted and the year after, he was still beating fullback's and other defenders for fun and amazingly outpacing them as well and he was twice their age. A very special player who would have absolutely thrived in this era especially with the protection he would have got, mind you he was so good protection was rarely an issue as defenders rarely got near him. His pace was exceptional. The Vic was a multipurpose sports ground with athletics in the summer. There was an open sprint event with a cash prize. Stan started winning it as a lad against adult competition. Had he not accepted the prize I’ve always wondered if he would have made his mark in the olympics. |
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Post by anchorman on Jul 20, 2024 17:33:25 GMT
Important to remember that Stan was actually at his best 15 to 20 years before this game Yes as well as 6/7 years later when he was at his very very best! 😉 |
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Post by lordb on Jul 20, 2024 17:44:47 GMT
Important to remember that Stan was actually at his best 15 to 20 years before this game Yes as well as 6/7 years later when he was at his very very best! 😉 He wasn't though was he, brilliant as he was in his late 40's his very best was pre WW2 when he was the world's first football superstar Given the other talents we had it's probable Stoke would have been strong challengers (at the very least) for the title during the first half of the 1940's had war not occurred I don't think that team is lauded enough, this is partly due to the lack of footage from that time |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 21, 2024 16:22:27 GMT
It was the most exciting time in our history when he came back and still the best winger in the league at 50 years of age. Bloody marvellous to see it!
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