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Post by redstriper on Jul 15, 2024 9:36:17 GMT
Yes or No ? Having been one of his biggest critics since the Italy debacle I still stay yes. Because whilst he hasn't delivered on the biggest occasions he has won us a lot more respect abroad, he's a good ambassador, speaks well, cares about people, is kind & thoughtful albeit incredibly cautious and stubborn. He has served his country well overall. Give him the title imo, on the proviso he steps down ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 15, 2024 9:44:35 GMT
No fucking way!
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 15, 2024 9:44:52 GMT
Probably "yes" one day but not now.
It's been brilliant how he's turned England around, especially with taking a lot of pressure off playing for England, turning it into a team, and the way penalties are no longer seen as a lottery.
I think whoever the manager is would be criticised for something, and teams like France have been successful with a similar approach to Southgate. In an ideal world, I'd like to see Southgate continue, as I think he would win a tournament at some point, but hopefully with a more adventurous approach at times.
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Post by bettyswallox on Jul 15, 2024 9:44:58 GMT
Absolutely not.
He's won nothing and to knight him would belittle the title and everything it supposedly stands for.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 15, 2024 9:46:41 GMT
Absolutely not. He's won nothing and to knight him would belittle the title and everything it supposedly stands for. yep , to easily given out these days , Starmer for example
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 15, 2024 9:48:43 GMT
Getting rewarded for failure,no way whatsoever.
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Post by bhp on Jul 15, 2024 9:51:54 GMT
Is this a piss take?
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 15, 2024 9:57:10 GMT
No ,we've still won nothing .
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Post by frasier37 on Jul 15, 2024 9:57:31 GMT
Not sure about that but, they've been dished out for far less.
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Post by st3mark on Jul 15, 2024 10:00:12 GMT
Not for me.
He's done very well in terms of making it to finals and semis.
But knighthoods should be for winners.
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Post by noustie on Jul 15, 2024 10:08:21 GMT
Outside looking in but Venables and Robson seem to be held in higher regard but Southgate’s record is miles better.
Venables in particular failed to win a home tournament and England only played well v a Netherlands side in civil war and Germany yet he seems the media favourite certainly in my lifetime.
Robson has a gutsy semi v W Germany that does a lot of heavy lifting for the 8 years prior.
Maybe once the dust settles he’ll be remembered more fondly but at the minute he seems to be Graham Taylor levels of criticism which just seems a bit weird
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 15, 2024 10:15:21 GMT
As they give them out for nothing then why not.
If it means he steps down from the job then a definite yes….i’ll drive him to the palace myself.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 15, 2024 10:16:55 GMT
Outside looking in but Venables and Robson seem to be held in higher regard but Southgate’s record is miles better. Venables in particular failed to win a home tournament and England only played well v a Netherlands side in civil war and Germany yet he seems the media favourite certainly in my lifetime. Robson has a gutsy semi v W Germany that does a lot of heavy lifting for the 8 years prior. Maybe once the dust settles he’ll be remembered more fondly but at the minute he seems to be Graham Taylor levels of criticism which just seems a bit weird Robson was deeply unpopular until we lost in Turin.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2024 10:18:03 GMT
No
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 15, 2024 10:22:55 GMT
Outside looking in but Venables and Robson seem to be held in higher regard but Southgate’s record is miles better. Venables in particular failed to win a home tournament and England only played well v a Netherlands side in civil war and Germany yet he seems the media favourite certainly in my lifetime. Robson has a gutsy semi v W Germany that does a lot of heavy lifting for the 8 years prior. Maybe once the dust settles he’ll be remembered more fondly but at the minute he seems to be Graham Taylor levels of criticism which just seems a bit weird All England managers are on a hiding to nothing particularly in this day and age where people can rant and rave online not to mention the pundits (most of them failed managers or ones who have zero experience) acting like experts.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 15, 2024 10:29:38 GMT
Sends a terrible message out but it will happen.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 15, 2024 10:30:19 GMT
Outside looking in but Venables and Robson seem to be held in higher regard but Southgate’s record is miles better. Venables in particular failed to win a home tournament and England only played well v a Netherlands side in civil war and Germany yet he seems the media favourite certainly in my lifetime. Robson has a gutsy semi v W Germany that does a lot of heavy lifting for the 8 years prior. Maybe once the dust settles he’ll be remembered more fondly but at the minute he seems to be Graham Taylor levels of criticism which just seems a bit weird All England managers are on a hiding to nothing particularly in this day and age where people can rant and rave online not to mention the pundits (most of them failed managers or ones who have zero experience) acting like experts. Suppose £5 million a year cushions the blow
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2024 10:32:52 GMT
No, he didn't win
Deserves far more credit than he gets imo but not a knighthood
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Post by greenhoffsleftboot on Jul 15, 2024 10:38:58 GMT
Absolutely not. He's won nothing and to knight him would belittle the title and everything it supposedly stands for. yep , to easily given out these days , Starmer for example This is the Keir Starmer who was Liberty's legal advisor? Who authored the legal case against the Iraq war? Who helped draw up the Good Friday Agreement? Who as DPP helped bring the Stephen Lawrence killers to justice? Who oversaw changes to how sexual abuse investigations are handled? Who said MPs should be accountable and we must not shy away from prosecuting politicians? Is that the same Keir Starmer, yes?
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Post by pieofpeter on Jul 15, 2024 10:39:00 GMT
Not for glorious failure no.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 15, 2024 10:40:35 GMT
Outside looking in but Venables and Robson seem to be held in higher regard but Southgate’s record is miles better. Venables in particular failed to win a home tournament and England only played well v a Netherlands side in civil war and Germany yet he seems the media favourite certainly in my lifetime. Robson has a gutsy semi v W Germany that does a lot of heavy lifting for the 8 years prior. Maybe once the dust settles he’ll be remembered more fondly but at the minute he seems to be Graham Taylor levels of criticism which just seems a bit weird A gutsy semi. Is that almost an erection?
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Post by starkiller on Jul 15, 2024 11:01:36 GMT
He's got an OBE, that's enough.
First is everything, second is nothing.
Rewarding failure doesn't help.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 15, 2024 11:09:36 GMT
Yes or No ? Having been one of his biggest critics since the Italy debacle I still stay yes. Because whilst he hasn't delivered on the biggest occasions he has won us a lot more respect abroad, he's a good ambassador, speaks well, cares about people, is kind & thoughtful albeit incredibly cautious and stubborn. He has served his country well overall. Give him the title imo, on the proviso he steps down ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Knighthood are becoming ten a penny. Southgate has been amply rewarded by his salary. Knighthood are no longer respected!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 15, 2024 11:14:16 GMT
Err certainly not
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Post by noustie on Jul 15, 2024 11:16:18 GMT
Outside looking in but Venables and Robson seem to be held in higher regard but Southgate’s record is miles better. Venables in particular failed to win a home tournament and England only played well v a Netherlands side in civil war and Germany yet he seems the media favourite certainly in my lifetime. Robson has a gutsy semi v W Germany that does a lot of heavy lifting for the 8 years prior. Maybe once the dust settles he’ll be remembered more fondly but at the minute he seems to be Graham Taylor levels of criticism which just seems a bit weird A gutsy semi. Is that almost an erection? It’s the name of my leaked online sex tape!
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Post by salopstick on Jul 15, 2024 11:17:19 GMT
Yes or No ? Having been one of his biggest critics since the Italy debacle I still stay yes. Because whilst he hasn't delivered on the biggest occasions he has won us a lot more respect abroad, he's a good ambassador, speaks well, cares about people, is kind & thoughtful albeit incredibly cautious and stubborn. He has served his country well overall. Give him the title imo, on the proviso he steps down ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Bobby had barcelona and ipswich to add to his CV
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Post by theoptimist on Jul 15, 2024 11:23:29 GMT
No.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 15, 2024 11:34:11 GMT
Not for me. He's done very well in terms of making it to finals and semis. But knighthoods should be for winners. Like Gordon Banks
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Post by redstriper on Jul 15, 2024 11:48:11 GMT
Hmmm, looks like I'm being too generous, maybe because I won a fair bit after backing Spain outright early in the tourno - I wanted to strangle him after the previous Euro's. For the time being at least it's clearly too raw for the oatcake. Gareth, your knighthood maybe as slow as your use of subs ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by questionable on Jul 15, 2024 12:11:56 GMT
I’d give Badge a knighthood first for his services to the Oatcake before this clown
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