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Post by march4 on Jun 30, 2024 10:00:50 GMT
They can already do the latter. It’s the former that’s the problem. Otherwise the Royal Marines have been doing it wrong for centuries. There’s little evidence to suggest they can. Again thankfully our players don’t the fitness of the Royal Marinea and it’s totally different and just not relevant in any way. Fitness is fitness. Stamina is stamina. But you are correct as it isn’t an identical situation as we also need to train for short sprints and suppleness of movement. I presume there will be loads of hard running for the first 4 weeks otherwise we will start the season brightly and by March will be wondering why we are slipping down the table.
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Post by lordb on Jun 30, 2024 10:01:08 GMT
Why not run but with a ball at their feet. Two birds one stone 🤔 Thats what they are doing
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Post by march4 on Jun 30, 2024 10:01:53 GMT
Why not run but with a ball at their feet. Two birds one stone 🤔 Thats what they are doing I can see a few injuries doing that!
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jun 30, 2024 10:25:05 GMT
The obsession with running is insane. They’re going to be running whilst using the ball, it’s not like they’re going to be on some jolly. It’s a fucking disease. I would have them playing basketball because you have to be ridiculously fit to play it and they might learn a bit more about finding space to receive the ball plus it's all about moving the ball forward and attacking. Teams do use a type of basketball, as you say it helps with fitness and also is great for movement
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 30, 2024 10:29:18 GMT
I hope it was last year, nothing wrong in keeping in contact with old colleagues, but would be a bit bothered if he had accepted expensive hospitality from a competitor in the same league. Maybe he just went independently and bumped into them… Give over. He’s allowed to enjoy himself in the off season. They’re clearly close and that’s fine. It’s just some old colleagues enjoying themselves and their chairman’s face makes it and shows it’s all in good spirits. Absolutely I did the same yesterday, was out with my old boss on the piss
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Post by Marc01 on Jun 30, 2024 11:11:40 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 30, 2024 12:02:01 GMT
Why not run but with a ball at their feet. Two birds one stone 🤔 Thats what they are doing Witchcraft! Might confuse them trying do two things at once. Should be all day ranbonas or half marathons round the stadium. The injury list will be through the roof half the squad will have a migraine from over thinking
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Post by baconburger on Jun 30, 2024 12:16:26 GMT
There’s little evidence to suggest they can. Again thankfully our players don’t the fitness of the Royal Marinea and it’s totally different and just not relevant in any way. Fitness is fitness. Stamina is stamina. But you are correct as it isn’t an identical situation as we also need to train for short sprints and suppleness of movement. I presume there will be loads of hard running for the first 4 weeks otherwise we will start the season brightly and by March will be wondering why we are slipping down the table. It's more likely to have the complete opposite effect than which you're predicting. When we followed the method you favour we generally had a poorer second half to a season. Unlike under Hughes when it would be fair to say we tended to start seasons a bit undercooked.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 30, 2024 12:22:30 GMT
🎵 you're not going on a European tour🎵
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Post by vinnyoverson on Jun 30, 2024 12:38:26 GMT
Clearly not all elements of fitness work they do will include a ball (gym work etc.) but I imagine that sport-specific strength and conditioning has in the last decade progressed such that a lot more is now done with a ball or within game-like scenarios on the grass.
As for the comparisons with the fitness regime of Royal Marines - everything recruits do is about building their fitness/robustness towards specific tests and outputs/outcomes. There is no aimless running.
Football fitness will be much the same, I’m sure. And let’s not forget, for all the flak they cop from us at times for not being fit, in this day and age they are all professional athletes.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 30, 2024 14:08:24 GMT
Different players need different running skills. Most need explosive 10 pace sprint, some need a longer distance. What both need is the fitness levels to recover quickly and last throughout the match. I may be wrong but as soon as Schuey took over the fitness levels improved and we were beginning to last 90 minutes. Hopefully if I am right we should see much improved fitness levels this season. We will see They’re never going to be at their peak fitness all the way through a 10 month season. It’s virtually impossible. Also you don’t want players in certain positions pacing themselves to last the 90 especially with all the subs that are available. You want their maximum impact and they have all the data available to them as to when that point has passed. Conversely changing players in some positions is more destabilising and not desirable CB’s, DM’s for example that’s why I’d like to see Burger improve his stamina to be fully effective for longer whilst wanting FB’s WB’s, wingers or wide forwards to just put in everything and the bench to decide when their levels are falling away. Completely agree, we need a mix. Players like Burger need endurance. To me fitness is the ability to expend energy but recover quickly to go again. Out and out defenders need stamina not explosive speed.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 30, 2024 18:58:35 GMT
Hope he is noticed the goals tonight came from a big man wining the first header their goal , a long throw our equaliser , a target man winning free kick in the channels and keeping ball alive from a dead ball the winner , if he hadn’t I’m sure SJW will point it out .😉
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Post by loustokiefc on Jul 1, 2024 7:34:46 GMT
Are we the last team back today? QPR are already going on there pre season training camp to Spain
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2024 7:54:07 GMT
Am I right in saying that everyone should be back in pre season from day 1?
I really hope he plays his best team from the get go in these friendlies and allows them to gel.
Of course new players will come in, injuries will happen and stuff but even still we have 7 players who should be starting most games if fit playing.
Within the 433 I think this is the best side we have currently.
I think it also highlights where work is still needed to be done:
Rose Thompson Sidibe (fully expect he’d play Laurent but that’s even more of a concern, not that Sol is a concern just that he shouldn’t be a regular yet). Ennis
Johanson
Junior Rose Gibson Bocat
Thompson Burger Sidibe
Manhoef Ennis Junho
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 1, 2024 19:05:26 GMT
Am I right in saying that everyone should be back in pre season from day 1? I really hope he plays his best team from the get go in these friendlies and allows them to gel. Of course new players will come in, injuries will happen and stuff but even still we have 7 players who should be starting most games if fit playing. Within the 433 I think this is the best side we have currently. I think it also highlights where work is still needed to be done: Rose Thompson Sidibe (fully expect he’d play Laurent but that’s even more of a concern, not that Sol is a concern just that he shouldn’t be a regular yet). Ennis Johanson Junior Rose Gibson Bocat Thompson Burger Sidibe Manhoef Ennis Junho Don’t get the hate for Rose. I don’t think he’s as bad as people actually make out. I do wish he’d be more effective in the opposition box mind. It’s mad we’ve got about 500 Cms and your starting IX is Thompson and Sidibe (I don’t disagree with you either btw). Can’t help but feel Cundle + one (maybe 2 will sign if Laurent AND Baker go as well and Johnson but I fully expect 1 to leave). And we’re nailed on for a good CF this year aren’t we, surely we are due one. Don’t even wanna be greedy. 10-12 goals 5-7 assists would do me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 1, 2024 19:35:33 GMT
Am I right in saying that everyone should be back in pre season from day 1? I really hope he plays his best team from the get go in these friendlies and allows them to gel. Of course new players will come in, injuries will happen and stuff but even still we have 7 players who should be starting most games if fit playing. Within the 433 I think this is the best side we have currently. I think it also highlights where work is still needed to be done: Rose Thompson Sidibe (fully expect he’d play Laurent but that’s even more of a concern, not that Sol is a concern just that he shouldn’t be a regular yet). Ennis Johanson Junior Rose Gibson Bocat Thompson Burger Sidibe Manhoef Ennis Junho Don’t get the hate for Rose. I don’t think he’s as bad as people actually make out. I do wish he’d be more effective in the opposition box mind. It’s mad we’ve got about 500 Cms and your starting IX is Thompson and Sidibe (I don’t disagree with you either btw). Can’t help but feel Cundle + one (maybe 2 will sign if Laurent AND Baker go as well and Johnson but I fully expect 1 to leave). And we’re nailed on for a good CF this year aren’t we, surely we are due one. Don’t even wanna be greedy. 10-12 goals 5-7 assists would do me. Rose is a good back up but shouldn’t be starting more than 15 games a season. We definitely need a couple new CMs. And I hope so!
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