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Post by andystokey on Jun 19, 2024 19:58:05 GMT
Says he's better suited to a 3/5 looks to have good feet and pretty quick. If we are going WBs we definitely need another decent CB 2 if we’re going 3 x CBs I think we will mix it up between a 4 and a 3 so we might get away with it if we sign another younger first choice to go with Gibson. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2024 20:01:05 GMT
Sounds more like a midfielder than a defender. Maybe LWB? Certainly not a specialist left back? Sounds like a Hoever replacement but for the opposite side to me. |
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Post by chuckrocky on Jun 19, 2024 20:02:45 GMT
His strengths would suggest he’ll be comfortable playing as an inverted full back, a position we know the manger likes.
I don’t think we’ll be seeing a back three very often next season.
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Post by lordb on Jun 19, 2024 20:04:06 GMT
His strengths would suggest he’ll be comfortable playing as an inverted full back, a position we know the manger likes. I don’t think we’ll be seeing a back three very often next season. I like to see it wheeled out for one off games where it's appropriate then revert back for the next game |
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Post by thornestein on Jun 19, 2024 20:05:02 GMT
I'm not on X, what's the gist? Left sided Hoever so he can’t defend ? |
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Post by andystokey on Jun 19, 2024 20:05:05 GMT
His strengths would suggest he’ll be comfortable playing as an inverted full back, a position we know the manger likes. I don’t think we’ll be seeing a back three very often next season. If he is playing inverted full backs Junior won't get many games he was hopeless there. |
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Post by hokusai on Jun 19, 2024 20:34:01 GMT
If we don't, it will be a crime against chants Bobcat the indisputable leader of the gang he’s the top he’s in the championship he’s the most tip top…bobcat! Lol 😂 Think you're missing one line: Bocat, the indisputable leader of the gang. Plays for stoke, at the top, of the championship, he's the most tip-top...bocat! |
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Post by lordb on Jun 19, 2024 20:34:49 GMT
Bobcat the indisputable leader of the gang he’s the top he’s in the championship he’s the most tip top…bobcat! Lol 😂 Think you're missing one line: Bocat, the indisputable leader of the gang. Plays for stoke, at the top, of the championship, he's the most tip-top...bocat! Nailed it |
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Post by nonameface on Jun 19, 2024 20:38:46 GMT
Not sure this signing means we will play 343. More it just shows how we want to have more pace and adventure in the full back positions.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jun 19, 2024 21:33:11 GMT
If we don't, it will be a crime against chants Our boneheaded pub-dust imbibers struggle with chants with more than four words at the best of times. Expecting them to sing a Stoke-ified version of this Hanna Barbera ditty would be like asking a dog to do a Rubik's cube 😅 The "boneheaded pub-dust imbibers" sound familiar... Didn't they support world of twist? |
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Post by nsd on Jun 19, 2024 21:39:41 GMT
What’s his main position then? Reverse cowgirl I dunno, bo(w)cat has a very specific meaning in some parts of the world... |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 20, 2024 9:26:17 GMT
Today he's Bocat
A few games in and he has a few bad games he'll be Borat.
Jaggymash (well that's how it always sounded to me) 😁
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 20, 2024 9:34:30 GMT
I think we will mix it up between a 4 and a 3 so we might get away with it if we sign another younger first choice to go with Gibson. We played a back four the majority of last season, but Hoever was still given licence to get forward a lot. Unless Schuey wants to return to his Plymouth tactics, I can still see us with a back four but with Junior and Bocat as our marauding full backs. The only thing missing from Bocat's locker is a lack of mobile passing to keep momentum on the press, but I think this is because he has the confidence to take the ball forward himself rather than passing to a teammate. No doubt about it, he's the LB/LWB we're crying out for. Get him in quick! |
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jun 20, 2024 9:37:21 GMT
Not sure this signing means we will play 343. More it just shows how we want to have more pace and adventure in the full back positions. Flexibility too, having a full back more suited to a 4 in Stevens and one probably more suited to a 3/5 in Bocat, would be a good signing imo |
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Post by walrus on Jun 20, 2024 9:46:24 GMT
If we never play a back three/five again I’d die a happy man. It’s been absolutely dire for every manager that’s tried it recently.
Hopefully those saying this signing means we’re going in that direction again are reading too much into it.
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Post by kerouac on Jun 20, 2024 9:50:51 GMT
Think you're missing one line: Bocat, the indisputable leader of the gang. Plays for stoke, at the top, of the championship, he's the most tip-top...bocat! Nailed it Actually that is now very good indeed…!!! |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 20, 2024 9:54:08 GMT
If we never play a back three/five again I’d die a happy man. It’s been absolutely dire for every manager that’s tried it recently. Hopefully those saying this signing means we’re going in that direction again are reading too much into it. The reason it hasn't worked for us previously is down to the managers, not the formation. When used correctly a 3 at the back is one of the most attacking and fluid formations you can get. The problem was O'Neil and Neil (especially Neil) used it in a defensive way..which is never going to work. Schumacher used it sometimes at Plymouth and used it in an attacking sense, as it should be. |
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Post by walrus on Jun 20, 2024 10:21:07 GMT
If we never play a back three/five again I’d die a happy man. It’s been absolutely dire for every manager that’s tried it recently. Hopefully those saying this signing means we’re going in that direction again are reading too much into it. The reason it hasn't worked for us previously is down to the managers, not the formation. When used correctly a 3 at the back is one of the most attacking and fluid formations you can get. The problem was O'Neil and Neil (especially Neil) used it in a defensive way..which is never going to work. Schumacher used it sometimes at Plymouth and used it in an attacking sense, as it should be. Schumacher also used it in a defensive way and it was dire to watch. I’m way too scarred by the home maulings against Norwich and Leicester and the awful first half performance at Wednesday to be prepared to think “Oh this time round it will surely be different”. I’m aware that it can work very well in some circumstances for the right squad of players but the fact that our last three managers have all tried to use it with a variety of personnel and had it go badly doesn’t fill me with any confidence that the next time round will be any different. I genuinely think that if we start playing it regularly next season Schumacher will be out of a job by Christmas, which would be a big shame as we were building something that looked really promising playing 4-3-3 towards the end of last season. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 20, 2024 10:30:25 GMT
The reason it hasn't worked for us previously is down to the managers, not the formation. When used correctly a 3 at the back is one of the most attacking and fluid formations you can get. The problem was O'Neil and Neil (especially Neil) used it in a defensive way..which is never going to work. Schumacher used it sometimes at Plymouth and used it in an attacking sense, as it should be. Schumacher also used it in a defensive way and it was dire to watch. I’m way too scarred by the home maulings against Norwich and Leicester and the awful first half performance at Wednesday to be prepared to think “Oh this time round it will surely be different”. I’m aware that it can work very well in some circumstances for the right squad of players but the fact that our last three managers have all tried to use it with a variety of personnel and had it go badly doesn’t fill me with any confidence that the next time round will be any different. I genuinely think that if we start playing it regularly next season Schumacher will be out of a job by Christmas, which would be a big shame as we were building something that looked really promising playing 4-3-3 towards the end of last season. He won't use it regularly. He has shown that. With the right players he knows how to use it right as be showed at plymouth. It's a formation that will suit some games more than others. He's already shown 433 is his go to and prefered tactic. But it's nice to know a manager has a plan B or even C...which was one of Alex Neils downfalls, he had no plan b |
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Post by etebojan on Jun 20, 2024 10:32:57 GMT
My Turkish ain't great mate but his physicals look decent 😂 Yeah same here I have no idea what the words mean so I just looked at the numbers 😂 No idea what any of that means...Is he rapid/quick? |
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Post by somersetpotter on Jun 20, 2024 10:34:58 GMT
ahh yes i'd hate it if we turn into prime guardiola man city and start playing with 3 at the back. People get too emotional about formations, let Schuey cook, if it ends up being a system that has 3/5 at the back and it works, I don't care about the history.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jun 20, 2024 10:38:04 GMT
Yeah same here I have no idea what the words mean so I just looked at the numbers 😂 No idea what any of that means...Is he rapid/quick? Judging by FM stats he is fast and good physically. Which does align with the reports on him people have found online |
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Post by Stoke70 on Jun 20, 2024 17:03:42 GMT
So, with Tchamadeu, we have BOCAT JUNIOR 😉
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Post by misterj on Jun 20, 2024 18:12:44 GMT
If we never play a back three/five again I’d die a happy man. It’s been absolutely dire for every manager that’s tried it recently. Hopefully those saying this signing means we’re going in that direction again are reading too much into it. TOTALLY AGREE - just cuz Pep, Klopp etc etc use it every English / British manager feels they have to do the same - a load of bo*****cks!! |
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Post by Veritas on Jun 20, 2024 19:00:39 GMT
So, with Tchamadeu, we have BOCAT JUNIOR 😉 Very nearly a good pun |
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 20, 2024 19:04:01 GMT
A junior bobcat in defense?
Get a junior puma from Ligue MX and I think we're set.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 21, 2024 6:43:14 GMT
People are posting as if he’s already a Stoke player and yet there’s nowt on the official site. I can only find speculation on line nothing concrete. Is this going to be another "Josh Tymon to sign tomorrow" thread that adorns the mb for weeks every window?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 21, 2024 7:14:46 GMT
People are posting as if he’s already a Stoke player and yet there’s nowt on the official site. I can only find speculation on line nothing concrete. Is this going to be another "Josh Tymon to sign tomorrow" thread that adorns the mb for weeks every window? We're still signing Zigic don't ya know!!! 😏 |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jun 21, 2024 8:15:34 GMT
People are posting as if he’s already a Stoke player and yet there’s nowt on the official site. I can only find speculation on line nothing concrete. Is this going to be another "Josh Tymon to sign tomorrow" thread that adorns the mb for weeks every window? We're still signing Zigic don't ya know!!! 😏 . . . . . and I have it on good authority that Lee Trundle has been trudging through the housing market in Trentham. A bit of additional information, Terry Henfleet has asked for a move from Sheffield Wednesday and Mrs Henfleet likes the look of a little 2 up 2 down in Normacot. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Jun 21, 2024 8:17:19 GMT
Classic Friday signing announcement do we reckon?
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