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Post by foster on May 28, 2024 10:28:44 GMT
Brexit didnāt work so now we must just ignore Human Rights as well. Farageās desire to see a ātough Britainā in the mold of communist Russia is ever-progressing, I see. In what way?
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Post by cvillestokie on May 28, 2024 10:34:38 GMT
Brexit didnāt work so now we must just ignore Human Rights as well. Farageās desire to see a ātough Britainā in the mold of communist Russia is ever-progressing, I see. In what way? Getting rid of commitments to courts that uphold Human Rights cases would be a good start. After all, Putin is the politician that Farage most admires. Mostly though Foster, it was š£. I donāt believe that Farage wants communism, but I do believe that heās just another stooge of someone paid to go on tv and say whatever heās told. Thatās a belief that is set in by reports such as these: www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farages-funding-secrets-revealed
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Post by phileetin on May 28, 2024 10:53:44 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 28, 2024 11:03:55 GMT
The pro immigration line is that the immigrants coming here are doctors, nurses, carers, etc needed to prop up the system. Having said that I've never seen doctors, nurses and carers beating the shit out of each other as in the above video...... What's the point you are making? 1. Are you suggesting that immigration isn't needed to support the NHS? 2. Are you suggesting that the people in the video are or aren't doctors and nurses, what you've written is quite ambiguous?
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Post by foster on May 28, 2024 11:13:01 GMT
The pro immigration line is that the immigrants coming here are doctors, nurses, carers, etc needed to prop up the system. Having said that I've never seen doctors, nurses and carers beating the shit out of each other as in the above video...... What's the point you are making? 1. Are you suggesting that immigration isn't needed to support the NHS? 2. Are you suggesting that the people in the video are or aren't doctors and nurses, what you've written is quite ambiguous? 1. I'd say Yes. It's a myth. There are plenty of people unemployed that could take up vocation in the NHS. 2. Yes also. It's cos they're brown innit, n if you says summit bout brown people then you racist.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 28, 2024 11:20:40 GMT
What's the point you are making? 1. Are you suggesting that immigration isn't needed to support the NHS? 2. Are you suggesting that the people in the video are or aren't doctors and nurses, what you've written is quite ambiguous? 1. I'd say Yes. It's a myth. There are plenty of people unemployed that could take up vocation in the NHS. 2. Yes also. It's cos they're brown innit, n if you says summit bout brown people then you racist. How can the answer to question 2 be 'yes' you numbskull, it was an either/or question? š¤¦āāļø I'm sure the answer from Felonious will be of a bit more value.
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Post by musik on May 28, 2024 11:28:54 GMT
The pro immigration line is that the immigrants coming here are doctors, nurses, carers, etc needed to prop up the system. Having said that I've never seen doctors, nurses and carers beating the shit out of each other as in the above video...... I bet they don't have to, they have a massive work load as it is.
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Post by foster on May 28, 2024 11:32:19 GMT
1. I'd say Yes. It's a myth. There are plenty of people unemployed that could take up vocation in the NHS. 2. Yes also. It's cos they're brown innit, n if you says summit bout brown people then you racist. How can the answer to question 2 be 'yes' you numbskull, it was an either/or question? š¤¦āāļø I'm sure the answer from Felonious will be of a bit more value. 'Are you suggesting that the people in the video are or aren't doctors and nurses,' Seems a pretty yes or no answer to me numbskull. Pauls logic.. Is the post about white people? Yes...join in and criticise anything white No....add a brown comment and make out that they're racist.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 28, 2024 11:36:40 GMT
How can the answer to question 2 be 'yes' you numbskull, it was an either/or question? š¤¦āāļø I'm sure the answer from Felonious will be of a bit more value. 'Are you suggesting that the people in the video are or aren't doctors and nurses,' Seems a pretty yes or no answer to me numbskull. Really? OK š
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 28, 2024 13:30:44 GMT
Can we follow suitš¤
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 28, 2024 13:36:13 GMT
The BbC showing their true colours again
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Post by foster on May 28, 2024 13:44:44 GMT
The BbC showing their true colours again Didn't really see the rest of his conference did we? Let's see the full thing before we judge
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 28, 2024 13:46:26 GMT
The BbC showing their true colours again Didn't really see the rest of his conference did we? Let's see the full thing before we judge I believe the BBC have issued an apology...
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Post by foster on May 28, 2024 13:52:37 GMT
Didn't really see the rest of his conference did we? Let's see the full thing before we judge I believe the BBC have issued an apology... Seen by who? It shouldn't have been done in the first place. It's slander.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 28, 2024 13:59:49 GMT
I believe the BBC have issued an apology... Seen by who? It shouldn't have been done in the first place. It's slander. Dunno pal. Not even seen it myself. Was just relaying what I'd heard is all..
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Post by wannabee on May 28, 2024 14:03:05 GMT
Surely it depends on the reasoning though? If itās purely based on someoneās colour / religion yes it is if itās because of other factors / arguments eg lack of infrastructure to cope no it isnāt. These arguments are never that straight forward and shouldnāt be simply dismissed in the same old way by the same old labelling. There are cases where some comments / arguments are racist but certainly not all. Not necessarily religion. I can't think of one f@cking single place on this Earth where all religions are equally accepted. So the best solution would probably be not to continue with the experiment and mix any religions anywhere on this planet, since they're not compatible. Normally when Western Citizens (I'm not say you are) make this type of comment they subliminally think of Countries like Saudi Arabia where there is no tolerance of other Religions other than Muslim. They rarely make the same leap of thought towards Israel which adopts the same Policy albeit usually more covertly. The common denominator in Western attitudes to both Countries is that they are Economically or Strategically Allies of the West so we won't make a big fuss as it will harm our Interests. Most Western Countries have enacted Legislation guaranteeing Religious Freedom but you can't legislate for how people think. Western Culture has been developed on Christian Principles and it permeates all levels of Society from Education, History, Medical Practice etc From "enlightened tolerance" passing legislation guaranteeing Religious Freedom, Western Society has gone from saying āto be a good X Country Citizen one must be Christianā and replaced it with "to be a good X Country Citizen (egalitarian, democratic, rational and multicultural) one must be secular" or at least the right kind of religious person, that is, one who confines religion to private life. That type of Society can live harmoniously but when the Standard or Way or Living is disrupted rapidly Socially or Economically then the indigenous people rebel. In the last Century in UK there have been several waves of Immigrant groups welcomed by UK Governments to grow the Economy. The first Group the Irish who built the British infrastructure but were discriminated against but were indistinguishable other than by speech. Over time they eventually assimilated into mainstream The next group to be welcomed were the Windrush Generation who carried out the Menial Tasks in the newly created NHS and drove the Buses and Trains. They too were discriminated alongside the Irish who were still being discriminated "No Black's, No Irish, No Dogs" This group have assimilated less well because as well as speech they are also distinguishable by Colour. At the same time as the Windrush Group were arriving so too were Asians from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh after Independence from Britain who encountered the same reception as the Windrush Group. Both of these Groups found assimilation difficult due to skin colour so for the most part congregated within their own ethnic Groups. The above observations are generalisations and many went outside the Norm especially those with higher education. The next Group were the Eastern Europeans in particular Poles with the advent of EU expansion and Free Movement. Like the Irish they were indistinguishable other than by Speech and like the Irish many have left and no longer come because their Home Countries Economies are doing far better than UKs The current wave are not from Europe or the Caribbean but primarily from Africa and the Asian Subcontinent. 90% have been invited and provided with Visas due to Skills or Care Sector Shortages. The Group that receives most attention are the 500,000 about 0.75% of the Population who have arrived in the 14 years without invitation or Visas. Brexit was supposed to stop or at least Control Immigration and has in fact accelerated it rapidly. The main reason being that Brexit has weakened UK Economy so therefore needs Immigrants for manpower in Skilled Professions and the Care Sector. It also needs Fee Paying Students to keep our Universities Solvent as European Students no longer come It is laughable when people say Britain is one of the most tolerant Countries in the World, there is no evidence to support that. The Economy is in the crapper and people look for others to blame rather than looking in the right direction Events in other parts of the World are stirring emotions and not just from people who share a common Religion and Heritage that have been invited to this Country and their Children and Grandchildren. It is no different to the emotions that were stirred in English People by the outbreak of War in the Fslklands many of whom would have been hard pressed to locate it on a Map. Discrimination on any grounds is "Othering" and is most prevalent when an Economy is in drift To answer your specific question I spend a good bit of my time in my apartment in Penang in Malaysia. It is the most Religiously tolerant Country that I know. It is a Muslim Majority 50% Country with Chinese Buddhist 25% Indian Hindu 15% quite a few Christans and me nothing at all. I'm not saying it's Utopia but there is total integration and very little conflict. If it happens it's stirred by Hothead Politicians. The beaches are fantastic and as you can imagine due to such an eclectic mix the Food is Fantastic and cheap. I'm sure there are other similar places. Cue the abuse
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Post by stokeson on May 28, 2024 14:09:37 GMT
The guy is just a Racist Turd and so are his followers..........
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Post by foster on May 28, 2024 14:14:36 GMT
The guy is just a Racist Turd and so are his followers.......... Can't argue with that kind of logic. End of thread ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by knype on May 28, 2024 15:43:15 GMT
The guy is just a Racist Turd and so are his followers.......... More Lefty twaddle
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Post by musik on May 29, 2024 5:49:24 GMT
Not necessarily religion. I can't think of one f@cking single place on this Earth where all religions are equally accepted. So the best solution would probably be not to continue with the experiment and mix any religions anywhere on this planet, since they're not compatible. Normally when Western Citizens (I'm not say you are)Ā make this type of comment they subliminally think of Countries like Saudi Arabia where there is no tolerance of other Religions other than Muslim. They rarely make the same leap of thought towards Israel which adopts the same Policy albeit usually more covertly. The common denominator in Western attitudes to both Countries is that they are Economically or Strategically Allies of the West so we won't make a big fuss as it will harm our Interests. Most Western Countries have enacted Legislation guaranteeing Religious Freedom but you can't legislate for how people think. Western Culture has been developed on Christian Principles and it permeates all levels of Society from Education,Ā History,Ā Medical Practice etc From "enlightened tolerance" passing legislation guaranteeing Religious Freedom,Ā Western Society has gone from sayingĀ āto be a good XĀ Country Citizen one must be Christianā and replaced it with "to be a good X Country Citizen (egalitarian, democratic, rational and multicultural) one must be secular" or at least the right kind of religious person, that is, one who confines religion to private life. That type of Society can live harmoniously but when the Standard or Way or Living is disrupted rapidly Socially or Economically then the indigenous people rebel.Ā In the last Century in UK there have been several waves of Immigrant groups welcomed by UK Governments to grow the Economy. The first Group the Irish who built the British infrastructure but were discriminated against but were indistinguishable other than by speech. Over time they eventually assimilated into mainstream The next group to be welcomed were the Windrush Generation who carried out the Menial Tasks in the newly created NHS and drove theĀ Buses and Trains. They too were discriminated alongside the Irish who were still being discriminated "No Black's, No Irish, No Dogs" This group have assimilated less well because as well as speech they are also distinguishable by Colour. At the same time as the Windrush Group were arriving so too were Asians from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh after Independence from Britain who encountered the same reception as the Windrush Group. Both of these Groups found assimilation difficult due to skin colour so for the most part congregated within their own ethnic Groups. The above observations are generalisations and many went outside the Norm especially those with higher education. The next Group were the Eastern Europeans in particular Poles with the advent of EU expansion and Free Movement. Like the Irish they were indistinguishable other than by Speech and like the Irish many have left and no longer come because their Home Countries Economies are doing far better than UKs The current wave are not from Europe or the Caribbean but primarily from Africa and the Asian Subcontinent.Ā 90% have been invited and provided with Visas due to Skills or Care Sector Shortages.Ā The Group that receives most attention are the 500,000Ā about 0.75% of the Population who have arrived in the 14 years without invitation or Visas. Brexit was supposed to stop or at least Control Immigration and has in fact accelerated it rapidly. The main reason being that Brexit has weakened UK Economy so therefore needs Immigrants for manpower in Skilled Professions and the Care Sector. It also needs Fee Paying Students to keep our Universities Solvent as European Students no longer come It is laughable when people say Britain is one of the most tolerant Countries in the World, there is no evidence to support that.Ā The Economy is in the crapper and people look for others to blame rather than looking in the right directionĀ Events in other parts of the World are stirring emotions and not just from people who share a common Religion and Heritage that have been invited to this Country and their Children and Grandchildren. It is no different to the emotions that were stirred in English People by the outbreak of War in the Fslklands many of whom would have been hard pressed to locate it on a Map. Discrimination on any grounds is "Othering" and is most prevalent when an Economy is in driftĀ To answer your specific question I spend a good bit of my time in my apartment in Penang in Malaysia. It is the most Religiously tolerant Country that I know. It is a Muslim Majority 50% Country with Chinese Buddhist 25% Indian Hindu 15% quite a few Christans and me nothing at all. I'm not saying it's Utopia but there is total integration and very little conflict. If it happens it's stirred by Hothead Politicians. The beaches are fantastic and as you can imagine due to such an eclectic mix the Food is Fantastic and cheap. I'm sure there are other similar places. Cue the abuse Malaysia ok. So the conclusion is, I may be right then. I wasn't thinking about any specific country, place or religion, I was thinking about the whole planet and the fact people are fighting over nonsense, which makes no sense. I have always had hopes, but it's really vanishing. My best mate has tried to convince me for more than a decade you can't mix people with different religions. And when I tried to come up with some spot where it had been successful I had a hard time and landed in Toronto. But it has been difficulties there as well lately. So not even Malaysia or Toronto are 100% and the rest are worse - some even terrible - so we must say the experiment has failed looking at it scientifically. Interesting about Brexit. So the immigration has increased then ... Already too much globally involved before then.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2024 17:13:18 GMT
More enrichment
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Post by knype on May 31, 2024 17:48:14 GMT
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Post by musik on May 31, 2024 18:28:15 GMT
Sweden's Christ Democrats have declared you don't belong to Sweden if you are a muslim and can't stand by Swedish values. But if you do, then you're welcome to stay.
People wonder if this means they have to alter the message they've learnt from their Holy book to have a chance here.
Muharrem Demirokk, leader of the Center Liberal Party, or Hemorojd Semikolon as I call him, also known as the Idiot (with a big capital I) says he doesn't like the statement made by the Christ Democrats, and says it will only increase the polarization already existing.
If anything letting them dictate their own rules and laws and be living outside of the Swedish society is the safest way to maintain or increase the polarisation.
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Post by bigvern on May 31, 2024 18:50:07 GMT
If there is any Christians or Muslims on here, I've always wondered how they can explain Dinosaurs?
Did God or Allah wipe them out 65 million years ago then put his feet up for a bit?
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Post by iancransonsknees on May 31, 2024 18:57:15 GMT
1. I'd say Yes. It's a myth. There are plenty of people unemployed that could take up vocation in the NHS. 2. Yes also. It's cos they're brown innit, n if you says summit bout brown people then you racist. I'm sure the answer from Felonious will be of a bit more value. He's our Stephen Hawking.
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Post by mrnovember on May 31, 2024 18:58:47 GMT
Blazing Squad have let themselves go
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Post by knype on May 31, 2024 21:02:23 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2024 21:13:18 GMT
From Croydon š¤£š¤£via where?š” Absolute fuckin scum of the earth
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Post by sticky on May 31, 2024 21:13:21 GMT
Just been reading about an Islamist arrested in France for plotting an attack at the olympics.. scary times, no matter how many times certain posters say itās more dangerous in Clevelandš¤¦š»āāļø got a horrible feeling weāll be seeing something bad at the Euros (and Iām not talking about Scotland progressing)
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 31, 2024 21:16:24 GMT
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