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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 3, 2024 17:46:27 GMT
I see you neglected to provide context for the photographer, English.Female1 - a delightful lady with the Twitter tagline "Islam is a death cult" and is quite fond of tweeting such gems as "Fuck Islam. Fuck Muslims". So just your ordinary salt of the earth Islamophobe. Not that i don't believe you... im more inclined to do so. But can you post proof of these kind of claims mate. A basic twitter account, or tweet, whatever. If you click on the post with last photo you can click on her name (English.Female1) and it will take you to her posts.
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Post by milton58 on Jun 3, 2024 18:39:35 GMT
Not that i don't believe you... im more inclined to do so. But can you post proof of these kind of claims mate. A basic twitter account, or tweet, whatever. If you click on the post with last photo you can click on her name (English.Female1) and it will take you to her posts. most of her posts are about rights for Muslim women what I read tbh...her gripe is how female Muslim women are treated tbh by the islam men
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 3, 2024 20:51:18 GMT
If you click on the post with last photo you can click on her name (English.Female1) and it will take you to her posts. most of her posts are about rights for Muslim women what I read tbh...her gripe is how female Muslim women are treated tbh by the islam men Something totally ignored by the " enlightened "
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 20:51:32 GMT
Ok mate,I thought you meant that was how many were in attendance I doubt we’ll ever know the answer, but if 2000 police are there it must be a lot. Never gets mentioned on other marches though does it “hundreds of convicted criminals” etc, they must all be squeaky clean I guess. I’m getting a cynical old bastard nowadays and don’t believe half the shit that’s in the news Nothing cynical bud. The mainstream media are the absolute gutter.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 20:57:03 GMT
most of her posts are about rights for Muslim women what I read tbh...her gripe is how female Muslim women are treated tbh by the islam men Something totally ignored by the " enlightened " You would think more people would speak about the treatment of women within Islam wouldn't you but of course if anyone dares be critical they will be branded a racist despite Islam being a religion not a race.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 3, 2024 21:01:50 GMT
Something totally ignored by the " enlightened " You would think more people would speak about the treatment of women within Islam wouldn't you but of course if anyone dares be critical they will be branded a racist despite Islam being a religion not a race. It’s fine, it’s their religion what done it guv
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 3, 2024 21:03:27 GMT
Something totally ignored by the " enlightened " You would think more people would speak about the treatment of women within Islam wouldn't you but of course if anyone dares be critical they will be branded a racist despite Islam being a religion not a race. Have you got any examples of this?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 21:04:40 GMT
You would think more people would speak about the treatment of women within Islam wouldn't you but of course if anyone dares be critical they will be branded a racist despite Islam being a religion not a race. It’s fine, it’s their religion what done it guv No mate it's definitely the fault of the people marching on Saturday with their horrible Saint George's flags.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 21:05:13 GMT
You would think more people would speak about the treatment of women within Islam wouldn't you but of course if anyone dares be critical they will be branded a racist despite Islam being a religion not a race. Have you got any examples of this? Examples of what Paul?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 3, 2024 21:06:37 GMT
Have you got any examples of this? Examples of what Paul? People on here being branded racists because they dared to be critical of Islam.
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 3, 2024 21:09:17 GMT
most of her posts are about rights for Muslim women what I read tbh...her gripe is how female Muslim women are treated tbh by the islam men Something totally ignored by the " enlightened " This is a major problem we have around domestic abuse and specifically controlling and coercive behaviour. The police, partners, CPS and courts have made massive inroads into domestic abuse after years of caring very little. The whole ethos of domestic abuse has now changed and the position we are in where victims have rights will be a major flashpoint in the beliefs and treatment of women in some religions. Why isn’t anyone talking about it?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 21:12:33 GMT
People on here being branded racists because they dared to be critical of Islam. You yourself yesterday branded Tommy Robinson a racist. Where is the evidence that he has said anything racist. I'm not talking about criticising Islam as a religion but genuine racism. Now he's far from perfect but I've only ever heard him be critical of Islam as a religion.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 3, 2024 21:19:35 GMT
People on here being branded racists because they dared to be critical of Islam. You yourself yesterday branded Tommy Robinson a racist. Where is the evidence that he has said anything racist. I'm not talking about criticising Islam as a religion but genuine racism. Now he's far from perfect but I've only ever heard him be critical of Islam as a religion. So just to be clear, nobody on here has been branded a racist for daring to criticize Islam then and there's no reason to think that they would be? In answer to your question ... www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/12/tommy-robinson-racist-invective-led-to-far-right-targeting-family-court-hears
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 3, 2024 21:31:04 GMT
People on here being branded racists because they dared to be critical of Islam. You yourself yesterday branded Tommy Robinson a racist. Where is the evidence that he has said anything racist. I'm not talking about criticising Islam as a religion but genuine racism. Now he's far from perfect but I've only ever heard him be critical of Islam as a religion. You've not looked hard enough. EDIT Paul's reply is right on cue......
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 21:31:05 GMT
Just to be clear Paul I never said anyone on here had did I mate. That was something you came out with to get one up on me, in your head anyway.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 3, 2024 21:35:57 GMT
If you click on the post with last photo you can click on her name (English.Female1) and it will take you to her posts. most of her posts are about rights for Muslim women what I read tbh...her gripe is how female Muslim women are treated tbh by the islam men Earlier on this thread I gave a pretty clear definition of Islamophobia and I actually used the example of saying that the treatment of women by some Muslim men is an issue is neither Islamaphobic nor racist. It becomes Islamaphobia/racist when specifuc issues are generalised to all Muslims - which is precisely what this women is doing when she says "Islam is a death cult" and "Fuck Islam. Fuck Muslims". If you don't get that distinction you are either being disingenuous or need help understanding how language works. This women is Islamophibic and what she us trying to do is present he views as "normal". Her views aren't normal. They are abhorrent.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 3, 2024 21:36:24 GMT
Just to be clear Paul I never said anyone on here had did I mate. That was something you came out with to get one up on me, in your head anyway. In the context of the discussion, I thought you were implying that people were worried to criticise Islam on here because they would end up being branded a racist. Apologies if I misinterpreted you. What are your thoughts on the Tommy Robinson links?
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Post by metalhead on Jun 3, 2024 21:41:11 GMT
Tiny Tommy, what a knob head. Pretends he's really not a racist "honest" but scratch about a cm deep and you realise he's a nasty little racist fucker. Fuck him.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 21:42:56 GMT
Just to be clear Paul I never said anyone on here had did I mate. That was something you came out with to get one up on me, in your head anyway. In the context of the discussion, I thought you were implying that people were worried to criticise Islam on here because they would end up being branded a racist. Apologies if I misinterpreted you. What are your thoughts on the Tommy Robinson links? In general I do think people are afraid to be critical of Islam through fear of being branded racist and that is what I was referring to in my original post. The video shows alot of nasty comments and is something I had not seen so I stand corrected on that.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 3, 2024 21:48:24 GMT
In the context of the discussion, I thought you were implying that people were worried to criticise Islam on here because they would end up being branded a racist. Apologies if I misinterpreted you. What are your thoughts on the Tommy Robinson links? In general I do think people are afraid to be critical of Islam through fear of being branded racist and that is what I was referring to in my original post. The video shows alot of nasty comments and is something I had not seen so I stand corrected on that. There's some distance between "wanting an open dialogue around Islam" and Tommy Robinson.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 3, 2024 21:49:18 GMT
In the context of the discussion, I thought you were implying that people were worried to criticise Islam on here because they would end up being branded a racist. Apologies if I misinterpreted you. What are your thoughts on the Tommy Robinson links? In general I do think people are afraid to be critical of Islam through fear of being branded racist and that is what I was referring to in my original post. The video shows alot of nasty comments and is something I had not seen so I stand corrected on that. You may be right but so long as they AREN'T racist in their criticisms, I don't think anybody should worry about criticising any religion. Yes, Robinson is a nasty piece of work.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 3, 2024 21:54:48 GMT
In general I do think people are afraid to be critical of Islam through fear of being branded racist and that is what I was referring to in my original post. The video shows alot of nasty comments and is something I had not seen so I stand corrected on that. You may be right but so long as they AREN'T racist in their criticisms, I don't think anybody should worry about criticising any religion. Yes, Robinson is a nasty piece of work. To be honest I'm not a fan of any religion. I feel like it causes a lot more problems in the world than it solves. If people want to believe in it that is their choice obviously but there are some in all religions that take it to the extreme and that's where the problems start.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 3, 2024 21:55:11 GMT
In general I do think people are afraid to be critical of Islam through fear of being branded racist and that is what I was referring to in my original post. The video shows alot of nasty comments and is something I had not seen so I stand corrected on that. You may be right but so long as they AREN'T racist in their criticisms, I don't think anybody should worry about criticising any religion. Yes, Robinson is a nasty piece of work. Why do you think so many folk turned out last Saturday then Paul and will do on July 27th? All racists? The football lads? Or just ordinary every day people in this country that have had enough of illegal immigrants,the Met Police and many other issues that nobody seems to want to talk about or do anything about?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 3, 2024 22:11:33 GMT
You may be right but so long as they AREN'T racist in their criticisms, I don't think anybody should worry about criticising any religion. Yes, Robinson is a nasty piece of work. Why do you think so many folk turned out last Saturday then Paul and will do on July 27th? All racists? The football lads? Or just ordinary every day people in this country that have had enough of illegal immigrants,the Met Police and many other issues that nobody seems to want to talk about or do anything about? When you say so many, we're talking about 5 or 6,000 aren't we? I'm not sure that those sort of numbers constitute any significant reflection of much to be fair, I dunno, it's a hard question to address, how many were you expecting? Were they ALL racists? Of course not, were there racists in attendance? Without a shadow of a doubt, the key note speakers are racists, Islamapohobic banners were on display and there was racist chanting, what percentage of the crowd were racists? I obviously could have no idea. Yep there were definitely football lads there. No doubt that there were just ordinary everyday people there to.
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Post by musik on Jun 3, 2024 22:13:31 GMT
You may be right but so long as they AREN'T racist in their criticisms, I don't think anybody should worry about criticising any religion. Yes, Robinson is a nasty piece of work. To be honest I'm not a fan of any religion. I feel like it causes a lot more problems in the world than it solves. If people want to believe in it that is their choice obviously but there are some in all religions that take it to the extreme and that's where the problems start. Definitely. And that's perhaps why our third largest political party in Sweden suggested nothing but christianity should be allowed. It's the mix that leads to conflict.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 3, 2024 22:48:49 GMT
Why do you think so many folk turned out last Saturday then Paul and will do on July 27th? All racists? The football lads? Or just ordinary every day people in this country that have had enough of illegal immigrants,the Met Police and many other issues that nobody seems to want to talk about or do anything about? When you say so many, we're talking about 5 or 6,000 aren't we? I'm not sure that those sort of numbers constitute any significant reflection of much to be fair, I dunno, it's a hard question to address, how many were you expecting? Were they ALL racists? Of course not, were there racists in attendance? Without a shadow of a doubt, the key note speakers are racists, Islamapohobic banners were on display and there was racist chanting, what percentage of the crowd were racists? I obviously could have no idea. Yep there were definitely football lads there. No doubt that there were just ordinary everyday people there to. I’d say that’s the case in respect to any protest or march whether it’s right, left, christian’s or muslims. There will always be extremists / activists who attach themselves to a religious or political side. For every Robinson or Fox you’ll have a Chaudhry or Sasha Johnson on the opposite side of the spectrum, all intent on disruption and all stoking up hate on social media. None of them really want to talk all they want to do is divide because they don’t want to compromise or come up with a peaceful solution to an issue and will never accept their argument has flaws. It works too because as they’re so vocal and extreme with there language they’re used as pawns by those opposing them, they’re the perfect tool to beat others with who may share some of there thoughts but are far less radical in their views. You only have to look on here to see how frequently Robinson is used as part of the argument / discussion when bracketing posters all under the same banner as him when they’re nothing like him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 0:38:20 GMT
People on here being branded racists because they dared to be critical of Islam. You yourself yesterday branded Tommy Robinson a racist. Where is the evidence that he has said anything racist. I'm not talking about criticising Islam as a religion but genuine racism. Now he's far from perfect but I've only ever heard him be critical of Islam as a religion. theweek.com/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-videoThe fucking p*ki comment on there is a fairly racist thing to say. Then you have his hero work below, which I’m sure he would have done to a White Brit: “After a Syrian refugee boy was assaulted in a school bullying incident in October 2018, Robinson falsely accused the victim of having previously attacked two schoolgirls. The 15-year-old refugee was dragged to the floor by his neck and told by his attacker, "I'll drown you", while water was forced into his mouth. The boy's arm was in a cast after it had been broken in a separate assault.[74] His sister had also been assaulted.[75] A 16-year-old boy believed to be the attacker, who was interviewed by police and given a court summons, had shared numerous social media posts by Robinson.[74] On Facebook, Robinson subsequently posted a screenshot of a message from a mother saying her daughter had been bullied and he accused the refugee of being the bully. However, the mother responded on Robinson's Facebook page informing him this was false.[76] Robinson also made a false allegation using a photo stolen from a news article on a teenage cancer patient.[77] These events forced the refugee's family to relocate because "the level of abuse the children have received has become too much".[78] The family decided to move elsewhere in West Yorkshire.[79] Robinson may have breached court orders preventing the naming of the alleged perpetrator in several videos on Facebook and Instagram, including one that was viewed more than 150,000 times. A lawyer said in doing so Robinson had "compounded" the refugee's suffering, adding "many people on social media having viewed Mr Yaxley-Lennon’s [Robinson's] lies believed them and expressed their outrage toward [the refugee]."[80]” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jun 4, 2024 5:38:20 GMT
Why do you think so many folk turned out last Saturday then Paul and will do on July 27th? All racists? The football lads? Or just ordinary every day people in this country that have had enough of illegal immigrants,the Met Police and many other issues that nobody seems to want to talk about or do anything about? When you say so many, we're talking about 5 or 6,000 aren't we? I'm not sure that those sort of numbers constitute any significant reflection of much to be fair, I dunno, it's a hard question to address, how many were you expecting? Were they ALL racists? Of course not, were there racists in attendance? Without a shadow of a doubt, the key note speakers are racists, Islamapohobic banners were on display and there was racist chanting, what percentage of the crowd were racists? I obviously could have no idea. Yep there were definitely football lads there. No doubt that there were just ordinary everyday people there to. By that rationale there must have been racists in attendance at all the other recent protests and marches 🤷 Probably even more given the disparity in attendance.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 4, 2024 5:43:25 GMT
You may be right but so long as they AREN'T racist in their criticisms, I don't think anybody should worry about criticising any religion. Yes, Robinson is a nasty piece of work. Why do you think so many folk turned out last Saturday then Paul and will do on July 27th? All racists? The football lads? Or just ordinary every day people in this country that have had enough of illegal immigrants,the Met Police and many other issues that nobody seems to want to talk about or do anything about? It was not a protest organised by ordinary everyday people was it - it was organised by Yaxley-Lennon (a known Islamaphobic provoceteur) and attended by people with a history of football related violence (https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/far-right-protest-london-counter-march-mark-rowley/). The whole ordinary people bollocks is just far right propaganda designed to normalise Islamaphobia. That post you shared by the clearly Islamophobic English.Female1 is a clear example of this. The question you need to ask yourself is whether you have been suckered into believing their propaganda or are actively propagating it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 4, 2024 5:50:54 GMT
most of her posts are about rights for Muslim women what I read tbh...her gripe is how female Muslim women are treated tbh by the islam men Earlier on this thread I gave a pretty clear definition of Islamophobia and I actually used the example of saying that the treatment of women by some Muslim men is an issue is neither Islamaphobic nor racist. It becomes Islamaphobia/racist when specifuc issues are generalised to all Muslims - which is precisely what this women is doing when she says "Islam is a death cult" and "Fuck Islam. Fuck Muslims". If you don't get that distinction you are either being disingenuous or need help understanding how language works. This women is Islamophibic and what she us trying to do is present he views as "normal". Her views aren't normal. They are abhorrent. Or you're thick...which most racists are.
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